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Israel Folau says Aussie fires linked to same sex marriage and abortion legislation!!

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Beeno1Captain40,032 posts
20 Nov 2019, 09:15
#81
20 Nov 2019, 09:15#81

So the stats in so called first world countries show Christianity is growing but dense Dave thinks otherwise but with no valid reason. 

Meanwhile Christianity is exploding in countries where populations are growing. The vast majority of the world. 

Dense Dave thinks of course everyone living outside of Europe and USA is stupid. 

Face facts though Christianity is growing rapidly whilst atheism is declining as these Godless perverts abort their kids. Amazing. 

The stinking mess these atheists are creating in society shows what they are about. Lesbians, gays, transgenders, pedophiles, haters of law and order, Rebels like their master Satan, violent, liars, murderers, rapist, child molesters and every foul thing. 

Read carefully the scripture I posted it so aptly sums up the those who walk in darkness. 

The effect of atheism are devastating to all who follow their BS. 

Dense Dave must surely now know that an immense intelligence and power, God,  created the universe out of nothing. Surely he can't be so stupid as not to realise that. 

What can the poor atheist say these days. Science offers them no solace. Indeed science has proved the existence of God. 

The atheist are depraved and produce a depraved society. 

The miracle though is that God has not wiped out mankind. Such is His great patience. However that patience comes to an end on Judgement Day. A just God will judge those who have done evil. All have come short of the Glory of God. 

In His love though he took our sins upon Himself - Christ the sinless One died to pay the price for our sin. 

Accept the pardon He offers or pay the price yourself for your sin. 

Your choice. 

What a wonderful salvation Christ has purchased for us with His own blood!! Amazing Grace how sweet the sound that saved a wretch like me. I never ceased to be amazed! I once was BLIND but now I SEE!! 

Yes you atheists are blind deaf and dumb. Hopefully that changes some day! 

As to Folau, he is right about God judging sin like homosexuality, that these perverts will not enter the Kingdom of Heaven unless they repent is certain. No wailing and nashing of teeth can change that. 

So hats off to Folau to warning the perverts of their need to repent and believe. 

What is also great about being a Christian is being on the side that wins completely and utterly. Every knee shall bow and every tongue WILL CONFESS THAT CHRIST IS LORD!! What a great day it will be to see these wretched atheists bend the knee!! 




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Beeno1Captain40,032 posts
20 Nov 2019, 09:25
#82
20 Nov 2019, 09:25#82

Dense Denise if you want to know what God says read His word. Looking at fallen man will cause you to stumble. 

Take no notice of very ignorant bigots like sharktwit who loves again and again what a bigot he is and how desperately ignorant he is. 

People like the frothing God hating, rooitwit can't help you get to the truth as he has nothing to do with truth. His terrible rage and rants against His creator shows the awful spiritual condition of this hater. 

Go to God's Word and pray that God in his mercy will open your blind eyes. Ditto all the other blind foolish atheists here. 

Sharktwit take Draad's wise advice. 

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DennyCaptain12,893 posts
20 Nov 2019, 09:33
#83
20 Nov 2019, 09:33#83

"Dense Denise if you want to know what God says read His word"

Golly gosh, what an original idea......where can I get a copy? One thing bothers me though, Jihadi Beeno, is that after all your readings I still don't see any Christianity in you.......not sure I want to end up like you. Get it?...I hope so.

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Beeno1Captain40,032 posts
20 Nov 2019, 10:24
#84
20 Nov 2019, 10:24#84

Dense denise its very clear that buffoons commenting on Christianity have never studied God's Word and are simply clueless. You really dont want to be suckvng up their BS like you do!

Dense you are obviously saying Christianity is good but i am bad. That being so hadn't you better take Christvanty more seriously? Also you should be defendi ng the good surely.

Poor dense seems so confused.


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DennyCaptain12,893 posts
20 Nov 2019, 10:50
#85
20 Nov 2019, 10:50#85

Oh ok, I get it.....you want me to follow your BS instead of theirs....fair enough......the problem as I see it...and hey I'm trying really hard to give your BS a go....how come you don't practice Christianity? 

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Beeno1Captain40,032 posts
20 Nov 2019, 12:44
#86
20 Nov 2019, 12:44#86

Nope dense you say i am bad and don't follow Christianity which is good. So i say fine go and follow real Christianity which is revealed in the bible

Note how you are saying real Christianity as opposed to me is good. Yet you joining in with those here ranting on about how awful God is, how Christianity is BS etc showing clearly whose side you are on.etrc

Crash goes dense denise once again. What a mixed up loon you are!!!!!

As for me i defend biblical truth such as homsexuality is an abominatiuon and that no unrepentant homosexual will enter the kingdom of God. Absolutely biblical! Probably its all very strange to you that those honouring God's word would defend it - its strange to you because you are are a confused dope dense!

Now is it true you are confused. Yes it very obviously is. And, is it rue you are a dope. Well again that too is very obvious and has been so for a long time Bwahahahahahahahahaha

sharkbok
sharkbokCaptain23,246 posts
20 Nov 2019, 13:41
#87
20 Nov 2019, 13:41#87
Beeno like many false Christians, the only reason you associate yourself with religion is to get a ticket into heaven. You have no interest in following the values in the Bible or being a better person. 
A decent person would have more chance of getting into heaven, than a sycophantic hypocrite regardless of their religion. 
What you don't seem to understand is that Jesus says "his" way is being a good person, not a fake Christian that only goes to Church for fear of no afterlife. 
While I am not religious, the Bible is just another book with the moral of the story. Jesus even says the good Samaritan who is not Christian will go to heaven because he is a good person, while the fake Christians will not go to heaven. 
So you and Israel Folau will rot in hell and meet up with Hansie Cronjie, another false Christian. 

DA
Devil's AdvocatePro7,008 posts
27 Nov 2019, 07:36
#88
27 Nov 2019, 07:36#88

I see he has now increased his claim against the ARU to $14 million

Folau's Claim

If arbitration is not successful in December, then the trial will be held in Feb next year


DB
DbDraadCaptain26,388 posts
27 Nov 2019, 14:04
#89
27 Nov 2019, 14:04#89

From your link.


"Folau argued in an earlier statement of claim that his dismissal was "an unreasonable restraint of trade" because it stopped him playing the sport.

Last month his lawyers said he offered a series of concessions to Rugby Australia for what they called a "low-level" breach of the governing body's code of conduct.

These included paying a fine, serving a four-week suspension, and "submitting to mentoring sessions about how he could practise his faith publicly and how he could best articulate his religious views and beliefs on social media".

Earlier this month Folau, who became a born-again Christian in 2017, sparked outrage by suggesting in a sermon that destructive bushfires and drought ravaging Australia were "God's judgement" for the legalisation of same-sex marriage and abortion.


I would like to see this play out in court...and not because it's a Christian faith issue...had he been a Muslim , I would have felt the same. There is a line between freedom of expression/faith/etc. and the freedom of others not to be discriminated against...and the rights of an employer to protect his brand. It would be interesting to see where the law deems that line to be...very interesting. Very important case this...for everyone, not just religious people.

sharkbok
sharkbokCaptain23,246 posts
27 Nov 2019, 14:27
#90
27 Nov 2019, 14:27#90
His recent comments about the Australian fires being linked to same-sex marriage gives him even less chance. It proves that an employer would not be able to limit his outbursts- and it is irreconcilable differences. Even the Australian Primeminister who is very religious said Folau's comments were completely insensitive- and not representative of most Christians. (i.e. He has been disowned by one of his own). 
As with Beeno, Folau is an extreme Muslim Jihadi Christian. He does not understand the morals of the Bible or mankind in general, it is just about him saying he is God's chosen one. 
Regardless of one's beliefs, very few people want to tolerate Folau here on Earth in the meantime- afterlife or no afterlife.

DB
DbDraadCaptain26,388 posts
27 Nov 2019, 14:57
#91
27 Nov 2019, 14:57#91

"Regardless of one's beliefs, very few people want to tolerate Folau here on Earth in the meantime- afterlife or no afterlife."

Agreed, but what harm does his beliefs do to anyone? Should he be silenced? He is not actively harming those with whom he does not agree. Where is the line? I think this whole thing has been blown out of proportion by him AND by Rugby Australia. Just like there should be a limit to freedom of speech, there should be a limit to how much the PC SJW crowd can force everyone to toe their line.

DA
Devil's AdvocatePro7,008 posts
27 Nov 2019, 15:31
#92
27 Nov 2019, 15:31#92

I fully agree with you DB

Yes Sharkie, the comments about the fires just shows you that Folau's ability to be sensitive about certain issues, is as certain as Piss Mint being a clever chap

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Beeno1Captain40,032 posts
27 Nov 2019, 16:27
#93
27 Nov 2019, 16:27#93

Tragically ou sharktwit is the most ignorant person I have heard opining on Christianity I have ever encountered. 

I don't know how many times I had to explain to him that in God's eyes NOBODY IS Good. All have sinned and all have come short of the Glory of God. The soul that sins shall die. All have sinned. The wages of sin is Death. 

So no sharktwit if the Bible said only good people would go to Heaven nobody would make because in God's Holy Eyes nobody is good.

Sharktwit this is fundamental basic Christianity 101 and you still have no clue. 

You just can't hear what I am saying to you. Your ears are closed. 

I will not be at all surprised if you come up with this again. 

As for that great man Folau I think he should be asking for much more. Sue the pants off the pervs!


sharkbok
sharkbokCaptain23,246 posts
27 Nov 2019, 18:41
#94
27 Nov 2019, 18:41#94
In "Allah's" eyes, no one is good. It is not relative. If someone has committed one sin, they are equal to a mass-murdering sinner... The only way to get into heaven is to swear to Allah. 
And so says the Church/Mosk that happens to be selling an afterlife insurance policy. No mention of the Good Samaritan that is relatively a better person- regardless of religion. 
Some people are smarter than others, some people are better at sport, some people are more ethical people- but it is all relative. It is a degree of smart, being a good person etc.
-----God or Allah has murdered more people in the Bible/Koran than anyone. According to the Muslim Jihad's- blowing up America or other Western Countries is the will of Allah... Terrorist bombers believe they are following the word of Allah. (Who like God is just a personification of being good- a subjective opinion)
That is obviously BS... Ever since the literal Bible was disproven, it is all figurative for anyone to interpret any way they want. There are so many different versions of the Bible that tell the same event differently - which one do you believe? You just mould it into your own BS interpretation...
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DbDraadCaptain26,388 posts
27 Nov 2019, 21:57
#95
27 Nov 2019, 21:57#95

"Some people are smarter than others, some people are better at sport, some people are more ethical people- but it is all relative. It is a degree of smart, being a good person etc."

Profound insight!

"That is obviously BS... Ever since the literal Bible was disproven, it is all figurative for anyone to interpret any way they want. (BS)

There are so many different versions of the Bible that tell the same event differently - which one do you believe?  (You really have no clue)

You just mould it into your own BS interpretation..."


Why is it so important to you to constantly attack religion? Are you so insecure in your own non-belief that you feel the need to berate those who are of different opinion in an attempt to fortify your self esteem? Intolerance is wrong regardless of which side of the spectrum it hails from.
sharkbok
sharkbokCaptain23,246 posts
27 Nov 2019, 22:35
#96
27 Nov 2019, 22:35#96

@Draad,

I am an anti-theist. That is my belief. While I do consider an afterlife may exist, I only accept religion as a man-made entity. 

As a Bible basher wants to push their own religion (e.g. Christian or Muslim), I want to disprove it. I believe that the world in the 21st century would be better without religion. It has served its purpose in evolution- and now modern-day laws made by man are better. 

I don't want someone like Beeno, the Church, Folau, Muslim, Jew etc to try to act like they are God's people- it just sounds too much like Hitler's master chosen race. It is primitive and does not belong in the modern-day world- or at least that is my belief. 

As to the context of "Profound Insight" - Beeno is suggesting that everyone is a sinner- so everyone is equal in God's eyes. This is more brainwashed BS. Obviously murder is worse than someone who commits a minor crime like not paying a parking ticket. If an afterlife existed, obviously the murderer would have less attractive options... (The Church do not want to say this because it devalues their afterlife insurance policy). 

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Beeno1Captain40,032 posts
28 Nov 2019, 11:39
#97
28 Nov 2019, 11:39#97

A more confused halwit than sharktwit is hard to find. 

The Church is NOT selling any after life picy. The Church is not the dispenser of Salvation. 

You can get saved outside the Church setting and Church attendance will not save you. Indeed there are many unsaved people in Churches. There are unsaved Pastors etc who testify getting saved years latter. 

Sharktwit every time you rant on against God you expose your confusion and shocking ignorance.

Your mind is solidly under the control of Satan and you walk in great darkness. May the Light of God's glorious Gospel break in on you and you get saved.

I need to check out a story I heard about atheist Antony Hopkins being saved! He apparently went to an AA meeting and got saved.

Meanwhile poor sharktwit scratches his head and wonders how a universe can create itself out of nothing. Wish Beeno hadn't pointed this out as it's got me really worried.

As for for your other BS and there is lots of it. Stew in it a while longer. Satan's people have tried to disprove God's world for centuries and have failed dismally. 

2.4 billion people claim to be Christians and that numbers is growing fast whilst the atheist numbers keep shrinking. Hahahahahaha. Many atheist monsters abort their children. How absolutely evil is that. 

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ShezzaPro2,471 posts
28 Nov 2019, 11:47
#98
28 Nov 2019, 11:47#98
What do you think of Scientology Beano?
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Beeno1Captain40,032 posts
28 Nov 2019, 14:00
#99
28 Nov 2019, 14:00#99

Scientology is a load of crap. My mother got into it for some years before she came to Christ.

Ron Hubbard is a great con man. 



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clevermikeCoach57,555 posts
28 Nov 2019, 14:09
#100
28 Nov 2019, 14:09#100

They are all wrong.  They arrested a 19 year old volunteer firefighter for starting 7 of the fires,  

Mad or what????????????  

sharkbok
sharkbokCaptain23,246 posts
28 Nov 2019, 14:13
#101
28 Nov 2019, 14:13#101

Amazing how religious people are the first to discard any other religion. Out of the thousands of religions- the one they follow is the correct one. (Even if they themselves recently changed from one Christian branch to another, or from a completely different religion).

It is like Richard Dawkins says, everyone is at least 99.9% Atheist because they see the absurdity in all religions- except their own. 

Beeno, I take you have been saved by God and you are going to heaven..? 

How did you become sure that some pasters have not been saved, or other Churchgoers- but somehow you are sure you are saved. Has your own Church been involved in your saving, or is it something that you organised with God directly ? 

Folau was a Christian Mormon, but he has denounced this for another branch of Christianity. And you guessed it, the Mormons are now apparently evil. Self-delusion...

Christianity is growing in the third world, not in first world where inventions are developed. Catholic's make up more than 50% of Christians, but many Christians believe Catholics are evil...

SA
Saffolk Captain30,741 posts
28 Nov 2019, 21:00
#102
28 Nov 2019, 21:00#102
Folau is as thick as pig shit on par with Luke Watson Both fucked up their rugby careers for worthless causes Idiots
MO
MoonroverPro1,973 posts
28 Nov 2019, 22:31
#103
28 Nov 2019, 22:31#103

Dawkins has some ideas akin to Scientology.Some atheists are just dead in their souls,others like Dawkins come up with alternative ideas or descriptions which sound like Scientology.

DA
Devil's AdvocatePro7,008 posts
03 Dec 2019, 07:42
#104
03 Dec 2019, 07:42#104

So yesterday, Folau released another video on the web, in which he states the following....

"I understand that not everyone shares my faith and some find it difficult to reconcile with their own beliefs,"

"I want to be clear that I only share passages from the Bible as a gesture of love."

He added that he was praying that God "watches over us, so that both parties might realise the courage to uphold the truth".

How does he equate these statements to him blaming the recent Australian deaths from those horrific fires to this religion or this God? 

MO
MoonroverPro1,973 posts
03 Dec 2019, 07:50
#105
03 Dec 2019, 07:50#105

Next step the Aussie Rugby will take is to ban rugby players from attending churches when the truth of the gospel is preached.Then they will break them down as commies did and still do.

DA
Devil's AdvocatePro7,008 posts
03 Dec 2019, 10:22
#106
03 Dec 2019, 10:22#106

Moonrover, do you agree with what Folau says here?...… read below

I am not talking about his whole legal case that is going on, I am specifically talking about his comments that he made about the innocent people who lost their lives in the recent bush fires in Australia...… yes or no, are you agreeing with Folau?

This is what Folau said in his sermon.... taken from "theguardian.com"

“I’ve been looking around at the events that’s been happening in Australia, this past couple of weeks, with all the natural disasters, the bushfires and the droughts,” he says."

He then reads from the Book of Isaiah in the Bible, The Lord’s Devastation of the Earth:

“The earth is defiled by its people; they have disobeyed the laws, violated the statutes and broken the everlasting covenant. Therefore a curse consumes the earth; its people must bear their guilt. Therefore earth’s inhabitants are burned up, and very few are left.”

Folau links the passage to the twin disasters of bushfire and drought and, in turn, the legalisation of same-sex marriage and abortion.

When Folau gets major criticism, even from fellow Christians.... he then reacts below

Israel Folau says his controversial comments that the bushfire crisis was a sign of "God's judgement" in response to the legalisation of same-sex marriage were not meant to offend but that it was a "timely reminder of God's word"

I respect this guy's religion,. and I fully respect his right to preach whatever he believes, to anyone he wants to...…. but I also fully respect my right to respond to statements like this, that he makes

He is a twat...… a fucking insensitive idiot...…. who uses his Christianity to financially fill his pockets

An addition to this piece...…..

In the video, Folau says he believes the scripture is talking to Australia. “Look how rapid these bushfires, these droughts, all these things have come in a short period of time. Do you think it’s a coincidence or not?"

“God is speaking to you guys. Australia, you need to repent and take these laws and turn it back to what is right.”

Folau also says he is sharing the message “out of love”.

What a fantastic role model he is......and being the international face of Christianity...…….

He is a complete and utter moron

DA
Devil's AdvocatePro7,008 posts
03 Dec 2019, 10:28
#107
03 Dec 2019, 10:28#107

“God is speaking to you guys. Australia, you need to repent and take these laws and turn it back to what is right.”

So..... if I fully understand this correctly.........….if the lawmakers in Australia  do this, there will no longer be anymore destructive bushfires, or droughts in Australia ……………………………………?

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bobbok...Captain10,129 posts
03 Dec 2019, 12:09
#108
03 Dec 2019, 12:09#108

Meanwhile reality strikes .......... the son of, I dunno who ............but apparently itsa 19 year old firefighter, has been arrested & charged with deliberately lighting 'em fires  ...... F@#$%^&.

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Beeno1Captain40,032 posts
03 Dec 2019, 12:17
#109
03 Dec 2019, 12:17#109
You bet Australians need to repent!!!! But don't stop there. All people everywhere need to repent and be saved from the judgement to come.Folau i s now suing the Oz rugby union for 14 million. He originally sued to 10 million -heeding Beeno's advice to go for more.That goth freak Raylene and fellow travellers must understand there is a cost for firing Christians who share the Word of God to perishing sinners.Raylene is very worried now as a payment of 14 million to Folau would bankrupt the cash strapped Oz union. That's what happens when you hire a nz goth freak pervert to run your rugby union.Saffex perv and the other pervs here are still showing their rainbow flag. They say next to nothing about the trans pervs after our children and think its so unfair what happened to Epstein. My if it can happen to billionaire Epstein it could happen to me they wail!Please dont think for a nano second God won't judge unrepented pervs. Note pevs what Jesus says:
Jesus said to His disciples, “It is inevitable that stumbling blocks will come, but woe to the one through whom they come! 2It would be better for him to have a millstone hung around his neck and to be thrown into the sea than to cause one of these little ones to stumble.
Amen and Amen.


SA
Saffolk Captain30,741 posts
03 Dec 2019, 12:56
#110
03 Dec 2019, 12:56#110
Repent to who exactly - the old man on the cloud bwhaaahaaaaa I’d be better off repenting to my dogs
MO
MoonroverPro1,973 posts
03 Dec 2019, 13:05
#111
03 Dec 2019, 13:05#111

DA.....Folau is a heaven and hell preacher and I don't judge him but rugby Australia does.
Linking events in the Book of Revelation to those on earth is tough,yet he has the conviction and who am I to judge him?




sharkbok
sharkbokCaptain23,246 posts
03 Dec 2019, 13:06
#112
03 Dec 2019, 13:06#112

"" Jesus said to His disciples, “It is inevitable that stumbling blocks will come". 

Judas laughed, and said unto all - "I am hungry, what is for dinner - anything except fish, loaves of bread or that wine" ."Is their perhaps lamb on the menu?" " If only I had 30 pieces of silver, I could get a takeaway"...



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Beeno1Captain40,032 posts
03 Dec 2019, 13:32
#113
03 Dec 2019, 13:32#113

Judas sold out Jesus for 30 pieces of silver.. He later went out and hung himself . Jesus referred to him as the son of perdition.

You can be sure Judas in not laughing as he lives in Hell. Nether will poor sharktwit be laughing, nether will saffex or the other pervs here, neither will the pervs Folau was trying to warn.

As so often happens to the bravado of these foolish atheists they die in fear and trembling.

For every person, there will come a last meal, a last breath and, of course, a last statement. And in many ways, what we say in the end is a real insight into what we were in life, what we stood for and what we lived for. Generally, we die as we have lived.

History tells the story of the renowned atheist, Voltaire, one of the most aggressive antagonists of Christianity. He wrote many things to undermine the church, and once said of Jesus Christ, "Curse the wretch. In 20 years, Christianity will be no more. My single hand will destroy the edifice it took 12 apostles to rear." HOW DID THAT WORK OUT!!!!

Needless to say, Voltaire was less than successful. And on his deathbed, a nurse who attended him was reported to have said, "For all the wealth in Europe, I would not see another atheist die."

The physician, waiting up with Voltaire at his death, said that he cried out with utter desperation, "I am abandoned by God and man. I will give you half of what I am worth if you will give me six months of life. Then I shall go to hell and you will go with me, oh, Christ, oh, Jesus Christ!"

What a difference faith makes. The last words of Stephen, who was being stoned to death, were, "Lord Jesus, receive my spirit. … Lord, do not charge them with this sin" (Acts 7:59-60).

The great evangelist D. L. Moody, on his deathbed, said, "I see Earth receding and heaven is opening. God is calling me."

I WOULD NOT BE A FOOLISH ATHEIST FOR ALL THE WORLD! 


sharkbok
sharkbokCaptain23,246 posts
03 Dec 2019, 13:56
#114
03 Dec 2019, 13:56#114


RO
RooinekCaptain18,117 posts
03 Dec 2019, 14:01
#115
03 Dec 2019, 14:01#115
What a load of simpering hogwash.
When Voltaire was on his deathbed, a priest begged him to renounce Satan and Voltaire's classic response was "now is not the time to be making new enemies."
Baboon-ou still peddling his naive and stupid lies and expecting us to believe that all christians will be saved because they're such good people while the rest of us will burn in hell. I think I'd rather burn in hell than be anywhere near the stinking liar and coward Baboon-ou!


DB
DbDraadCaptain26,388 posts
03 Dec 2019, 14:13
#116
03 Dec 2019, 14:13#116

"Baboon-ou still peddling his naive and stupid lies and expecting us to believe that all cChristians will be saved because they're such good people while the rest of us will burn in hell. I think I'd rather burn in hell than be anywhere near the stinking liar and coward Baboon-ou!"


You are a liar. This is a deliberate porkie and you know it. Smacks of cowardice too.

DA
Devil's AdvocatePro7,008 posts
03 Dec 2019, 14:54
#117
03 Dec 2019, 14:54#117

Beeno

Answer my question then

If the Australian government replaces all the laws that Folau and God are totally against...… are you then saying that all droughts and bush / forest fires will cease to exist from now on then, in Australia?

Or let me guess, I can only imagine.....there will in fact still be fires and droughts in Australia, but this time it will be God punishing the Australians for being dishonest, and not because of them allowing gays.

Then, if Australians stop being dishonest, then there will still be droughts and fires in Australia...... because some ex Australian biker, by the name of Mike, who now lives in Alaska, but was born in Australia...... lied to someone about how fast his 900 Ninja can go on the highway

Then, when all else fails, and the Australians have done everything they can to appease this God, there will still be droughts and fires across Australia, because some 8 year old Australian kid committed a sin and stole a sweet from his local shop counter, and the guy in the next town committed adultery by sleeping with his wife's sister

I get it then...……. there will always be a reason for the droughts and fires...…..the goal posts move every second of every day

SH
ShezzaPro2,471 posts
03 Dec 2019, 14:57
#118
03 Dec 2019, 14:57#118
Beeno you're a hoot, bless you. No one on this forum can incite a reaction quite like you, keep up 'God's work'. 
DB
DbDraadCaptain26,388 posts
03 Dec 2019, 15:24
#119
03 Dec 2019, 15:24#119

DA, In theory: The World is Satan's domain till the Second Coming. Till then God's Grace makes it bearable to cope with reality. The closer you are to God and His Will, the more Grace you accept. Grace is given freely, but forced onto no-one. You need to accept it to receive it...and acceptance is a transitional process.

So no, changing the laws won't prevent hardships.

DA
Devil's AdvocatePro7,008 posts
03 Dec 2019, 15:27
#120
03 Dec 2019, 15:27#120

Cool Db

Why would any God deliberately allow the w orld to be Satan's domain

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