It was on this day....

 " The English are so uppity..." Not wrong there, if you don't speak Queen's English then you are sh!t!

 Ever tried to understand the people when they talk, them Limeys are incomprehensible / uncomprehensible .

 Nope, Plum....wider reading is required. More than one source ! 

Corruption....you are not aware that every election he " won " was mired in controversy ? That he actually didn't really even get enough votes to ever win one at any stage leading up to his Presidency, and including that ? God bless the Mob !! 
He is known to have been responsible for at least one rape....is that ok too ? Does that make him a good guy to go along with his serial philandering ? And I don't think you seem to be quite aware at what a security danger behaving in such a sexually reckless manner can involve.....it leaves you open to blackmail/exposure of blabbing state secrets to lovers/easy target for assassination. Many of his former bodyguards/secret service agents spoke out about the difficulties of keeping him and, by definition, the nation safe because of his increasingly reckless sexual behaviour. Apart from that, he was supposed to be a " good Catholic " and America really does pride itself on those family values. It was doing his Party no good politically to have the whispers about his infidelity....may not matter to you, but some people have a moral compass.
His drug taking was out of control. Yes he was in terrible pain from his Addisons, something he kept secret from the majority of people and, at times, his quack Dr, later struck off I believe, was injecting him three or so times a day with a hefty cocktail. This was at the height of the Bay of Pigs fiasco. He also took a great deal of recreational drugs. Not really fit and proper behaviour and, yet again, leaves one at real risk of all sorts of dangers. He also had longstanding venereal disease, contracted in his twenties and which he needed treatment for throughout his life. Syphillis ? One would hope not given how insane that sends the sufferer. And it was because of his back problem and a flare of sexually transmitted disease that he was wearing a back brace on the day of his assassination. This made it impossible for him to move, he had to sit bolt upright in that car at all times. Whoever pulled the trigger knew this and knew they could get a clear head shot, he wouldn't be moving around in the car because he couldn't......
First wife ? Know anything about her ? 
I don't see mention of his attempts to assassinate Castro, which was the spark of the Cuban situation........as I said, more than one source.....

You misread, I said his father supported Hitler, although I can grab a direct quote for you that might actually provide credence to dear JFK being a bit of a " Nazi " himself ( actually, only a particular brand of German in WWII were Nazi's, anyone of a similar brand of thinking or behaviour is a neo-Nazi ) 
And a lot of his papers were shredded after his assassination, others are held in vaults and should have been released to the public as the 50 year rule has now passed. It seems they will never see the light of day.....

No more time now.....just to say, I was an Historian, Plum, heading to become a Professor before I became very ill, so I do know a little bit about History  

 The British Royal Family up to George V was German through and through dating from George 1 who had to appoint a Prime Minster because he could not speak English.  All of the Lot married German spouses as well and the last variation was George VI who married a Scottish lady, while Elizbeth again married a Battenburg Prince - who conveniently changed his name to Mountbatten.  
So here to date has a Royal family with German roots - the only one with real English roots will be Prince William.   Lets look at the ancestry of the following string of English Monarchs:-
Victoria        =      100% GermanEdward Vii    =      100% GermanGeorge V     =       100% GermanEdward VIII  =       100% GermanGeorge VI     =       100% GermanElizabeth II   =         50% German
Charles        =         50% German
Interesting - the German family roots of the English monarchs.  

The English Royal Family has more breeding and class in their dirty laundry than all the American presidents combined.

As for common low-lives like Dense and RightSaidFred . . . these ill-bred losers would appear tacky and lacking in class compared to a pustule in the crack of a hillbilly's arse.

 Plum JFK was deffo a Nazi ,all that "Ich bin ein Berliner stuff was vry suspicious ....Becs of course doesnt mention where all the controversy comes from .Imagine that pratt Tricky Dicky in the whitehouse during the Cuban crisis ,probably all be in our own private fallout New Vegas 100% 3D nightmare !The mob ? You mean the same mob that was gunning for the Kennedys via their catspaw Hoover ? My degree in Ancient History may not be directly relevant to JFKs  tenure as prez but dammit history is still all in the past innit ?!Ecktuarly I think everyone in this house of 7 either has a degree or is working towards one ,I think even the cat may have one in its litter tray ....not the dopey coc.katiels though they can barely muster an associate diploma in languages between them .One of them has such a tenous grasp on its chosen field it keeps calling me a "priddy gurl " wolf whistles and the tries to groom me !Just another pretentious bird .....

 Hell Rooipunk drink your tablets sonny.  Trying to panel beat the historic facts of the lady of the night who became a queen is silly to say the least.  But then again it must hurt knowing that the sun never set on the british empire and now they are nothing they could not even make the semi finals in the RWC at home.  Not even the imported Kiwi and South African players could help them.  By the way that old tannie is a leech - never does anything but wave and nod, wave and nod silly old cow.

 Now if I had to choose between this Royal:


..... and this  one...............................:

 Well Charles sure has a lot of class. The man is a moron so I suppose one has to be kind, but his comments about Camilla were worse than the ones Wiener posted before he  had to resign.  And speaking about Nazi supporters Edward VIII would give old Kennedy a good run for his money.
The Queen is an admirable public servant....but the rest are a motley bunch.

@Becs Ok. So as far as I can tell, there is a relatively short list of things that actually matter. Here are some of the things I don't care about. Drug habits, STDs, womanizing, sexual orientation and religious affiliation. As for his first wife, no I don't know much about here. Did he cheat on her? Yes, was not speaking about JFK's family either, but you mentioned that they were Nazi sympathisers. Are you a communist Becs? Of course not. You are not a jihadist either, obviously. So let's say ISIS suddenly took over the Isle Of White tomorrow. Would you frown upon Cameron/Mi5's attempts to cut the snakes head off? Communists were the big snake in those days and hindsight as they say is 20/20. If you were to blame somebody for the beginnings the crisis, in chronological order I would say it goes like this - Castro, Eisenhower, CIA, Russia, Numerous others. If you were to give credit for diffusing it, I would say Kennedy would be number 1 on the list. Is this stuff not well documented? Can you point me in the direction of some reading? OK, then the final one. I did know about this but never thought too much of it. The mob helping him win elections. You are correct it is dodge and murky. But, there is always some rich fker with money and connections behind every politician who ever gets anywhere and they always want their pound if flesh. I don't know what Kennedy had to "give back" but ultimately Castro was gonna take over Cuba and i fully agree with Wardad in that others would have pushed the button. Breaking eggs to make a pizza :) I have consulted numerous sources Becs. But please save me some time. Point me in the direction of some good write ups if yoh can. I warn you though, if the material is gonna lean speculation against actual positive facts about his tenure then it probably won't sway my one braincell :) What period of history do you specialise in? Hehe might have more questions. Haha the English

 Ou Rooi is always funny.....like in comic relief.....but he's at his funniest when he talks about "class" .....firstly because he has no understanding of it's meaning and secondly and more importantly because he has none. This hillbilly who goes trawling the internet to find posters personal details and makes a habit of publishing it on a rugby forum.....go-on tell me that's class you blithering Buffoon!

Would be great of some unfortunate turn of events saw Harry become king. This isn't a possibilit though right? Where the hell is Beenis? By now he should have linked us articles on how the Royals are all reptillians :)

 Where the hell is Beenis? By now he should have linked us articles on how the Royals are all reptillians

He is moulting.

 Please dont encourage him

". . . trawling the internet to find posters personal details and makes a habit of publishing it on a rugby forum . . ."

Sniff, poor little dear. What a liar as well!

If I recall, Dense, you dared me to put up that pic of your incredibly ugly mug and I still got your permission. Do you deny giving me permission? Huh chump?

LMAO! You should have learned from your master's embarrassment. Moffie also dared me and then wished he hadn't!

Don't worry Dense, I do understand that ill-bred low-lives like you tell fibs like this because you don't know any better. No class, no breeding and no manners. Was it your mommy or your daddy who taught you to lie?

 Back on topic. It certainly wasn't the good guys who assassinated JFK...and his boet....so, if they p1ssed off the bad guys enough to get them axed, they must have done something right. Not?

 Exactly DdDraad...exactly!

Denny, have you watched that video i linked yet? Please do man. I really wanna hear what you think.

Personally, i think JFK ticked off the guys who wanted to make money out of instability, just the same as they are doing today. These were the only guys who could have arranged the totally biased investigation that followed as well as the many falsities that have been exposed since.

The guy's wife, the docto, the mortician and the police that saw him all said the back of his head was missing. Something like 40 people all said the same thing...the back of his skull was nowhere to be seen. Yet the official photographs show it being intact. The mob, unless they were working with people inside the military and government could not have arranged this and that another reason why i don't think the mob did it. I feel the mob were being used, possibly blackmailed as part of the assassination plot. But they were not the co-coordinators.

 Rooi, your question with reference to my late mommy and daddy has stirred my interest in your mommy and daddy. So tell me this Rooi, was your homophobia brought about by your daddy wearing pink frilly panties? And is that the reason why you quite often squeal ...."Wehe"
 And about your mommy, did she console herself by servicing the neighborhood?
 Just some questions, Rooi....if you don't like them I have more...lots more.

 Jeezum- crow the frigging RWC should have been started later in the year then we could all have some actual farking rugby to p!ss and moan about .Well you poor wee saffas anyway we would still be laughing our t!ts off at the sad spectacle of the Boks being rolled by some nippy wee chaps in red and Engerland watching their own cup on the telly .

Go on then Dense, ask away. Those are exactly the kinds of questions I'd expect from someone like you. So far the answers are "no" and "no".

 PlumI've had a look at Peter Levenda's summary of events leading into the assassination of JFK.....I didn't go into the follow ups by the other speakers. He's condensed  material took place over a long period of time and in his own words there's a mountain of related material still classified. On that basis I find his summary inconclusive.

 Well we can all laugh at Engerland ,looks like their 'Voldemort " strategy didnt help eh ?Least the boks came 3rd .