Jake White hails the irremovable Bullsh*t Steyn

Well now Corn....here’s the gospel according to Moz. Build off the traditional Bok game.....strong forward set play.....a monster defence... .use our small nippy types like Paulse, Habana and Kolbe to exploit turnover ball.

That turned out to be exactly what won the WC final....the Beast, Mostert and Kolbe were the lead players in executing those 3 tactics.

I have been saying that for years and whenever we got close to that prescription we have won. The WC has been our best tournament because we have discarded the stupid ‘expansive’ ideas every WC. But we haven’t always executed against forward excellence and a big defence.

For years....stick with moz.

Reintroduction of Jan Doormat Serfontein? 

"Best coach since readmission... get rid of passengers"

Who selected the passengers and made them key contributors? And old "hasbeens" like Beast and Britz? Best coach evar? 

You don't think these things through Saffy. You are very funny. 

"So what I'm picking up on this thread is that although we are ecstatic to be world champions, be it unconvincingly given that we did not beat NZ in any of our games in 2019. "

Statistically, the only team that could beat NZ twice in one season, was the 2009 Boks...I might be wrong, but they rarely lost....leave it there for the moment...

We focused our efforts to prove to ourselves that we could beat them...in 2018...and we ran them very close in all the other matches since the 57-0 disaster in 2017.

We were building to beat them in the finals, but England messed that up. I'm not saying we would have, I'm saying we knew it will be difficult to beat them twice in a row and we targeted the important match...which never happened.

PS, that first match was a lot closer than what the score board showed...make no mistake, IMO, we would have beaten any team in that final...but England was the second best team at RWC 2019...and deserved finalists. 

Pps: Look, I know this could be written much more reader friendly but I'm posting from my phone and I'm sure you can get the gist of the argument despite the clumsy wording.

Serfontein is a slow, small guy  with an inside step which worked against school boys. He is not a test center's backside.

Calling a decorated Bok of Mornès stature a BS Steyn is not a clever play of words, but rather a cheap attack on a player who served the Boks well over the years. Not my favorite Bok, but no shitstain either...Ou Maaik would agree with you on that...I think...but that still doesn't make it right...or even funny.

Moralising se gat...you are being a dick again...just stop it.

Lügnerin has yet to explain how the most successful South African 10 of all time is the worst 10 in history! He keeps me coming back, always a good laugh to be had 

The biggest mistakes that our worst performing coaches have made is to try sexy and expansive rugby. 

The kiwis with the their islander influence are the masters at that. It doesn't mean they can't keep it tough and grind it out either. The are just way better than anyone else when it comes to throwing the ball around. They will always be a threat with ball in hand. 

One thing that we do have is tall, big athletic players with an incredible engine.

Yes, Steph and Mostert might not be the biggest bruisers and slip off tackles, but the ground they cover is like having additional players on the field. 

Burger was the same, Andre Venter was another. South Africa does better when they have high work rate players. 

On the other hand, Kolisi can't even get passed 50 min and likes to camp out on the wing

Steph is not in the class of those great names. 

And you missed out on knowing rugby,

By 2018 the Springboks were in a desperate situation brought about by the most clueless  coaches fired by their clubs because they were useless.   ERASMUS Came in and decided that a re-look at teams was necessary,   

The Springboks played Wales and selected a team with only 5 established Springboks in the team.  This hatchet job team could still have won the game if  Du Preez at flyhalf did not bugger up royally.. 

That was followed by two victories against England - after which Erasmus decided to look again at some players like the clueless Esterhuizen and  put another lot of pretenders in for the third test.

The real sign of improvement came in the away test against New Zealand - some thing neither Meyer or Coetzee could achieve in the six years they coached the Springboks.  In the RC in 2018 Erasmus still did some player speculation.   

By the end of 2018 Erasmus knew which players are not up to standard and  when the test season he had his team more or less finalized.   In 2019  the Springboks played in 12 tests and achieved something never happening before -

*    winning the RC in a WC year;

*    in the RC won the tests against Australia after sending the main players in the squad to NZ before the Aussie test - Mozart and AO had a fit about that - but fact is the Springboks beat both Australia and Argentina (away) by huge margins and drawing with the All Blacks.

*     Unlike Meyer in 2015 and his Japan disaster - the Springboks played Japan twice and beat them by huge margins;

*      Lost against New Zealand in the WC opener - the main reason being that Mostert failed in  making a routine tackle - a very weak defender who cannot tackle players properly as ball carriers are not stopped in their tracks.

*      Managed to beat Wales with a n excellent try by De Allende and despite a knock-on with an open tryline in front of him by Willie.

*      Won the WC  against England after demolishing the England team by a very w ide margin.  

In essence everybody bar our two local village idiots rate  Erasmus as fully deserving the coach of the year award in 2019.     They are so stupid it is not really worthwhile to respond to their comments on the issue of Erasmus. 

And AO - Du Toit is top class and made the World team selected by experts after the WC and so is De Allende.  So live with it,   .      

AO

A successful 10 is involved in a team that win matches.    After 2012 Steyn was a disaster for the Springboks and in the games against New Zealand in the period 2012 to 2017 in 6 tests and no wins  or even draws.   Was dropped by his braai friend because of poor performances,    Stade Francais could not even use Morne as starting flyhalf - he always was a disaster in that posiotion as he would not take contact and his defense was a joke in bad ta ste..    

Stade won titles with Morné. The Boks had their best attack since Jake in the 2013 season, Morné playing an integral role in that attack. Do a little research before you speak. Muchos dankos. 

Provide some reliable info please about what titles Stade won when Morne was playing for them.  Please indivate how many matches was played and in how many Morne started in and how many Morne was the benchwarmer.    This is point 1 only.

Point 2 relates to the 2013 season "best attack" dream story.    For the best attacks myth the point is that best attacks  leads to try scoring and the answer is normally and especially the number of tries scored by backline players if the flyhalf has a role in it.   I would leave out the three June 2013  tests  - they were against  Scotland, Samoa and Italy -  hardly real opposition for any Springbok team.  

So lets just look at Italy at home in 2013 - the Boks scored  5 tries and gave away 1   The Springboks only met Italy once and that was in the 2019 WC.   The Springboks scored 7 tries  and Italy none,    First dent in 20 iro your best attack myth,  So lets go a bit further - for a team to really play attacking rugby  there need to be flair in the forwards - especially the loosies 0- t combine with the backline in scoring of tries,  In 2013 there was NONE. 

So please explain - why was both Meyer and Coetzee fired by their clubs and why was Morne and Albert s ent packing in mid\season by their clubs if they were any good?    Fact is they were  all four an insult to rugby,           

One should remember that we are dealing with AO and Mozart - both being dishonest when it comes to players and coaches.              

So bull completely destroyed the stormers this weekend. But who was at the helm, none other than Morney skiddy Steyns. I've never seen him ever play so creative, chips, passes, taking the line on. 

Now I just wonder how he would have done under Jones and White for the boks back in 2013 

I must admit Morne played well yesterday. He was playing a quick tempo game looking to bring his backs into the game.

The standard of backline play, in general, appears to have improved in SA over the last 2 years. Many of the black players coming through are very skilful - and can play an expansive game well. 

Willemse with his step on the dancefloor. He is not a flyhalf. 

Willemse succumbed under the high expectations...sadly, I don't see him realizing his potential at 10...or 15 for that matter...hope I'm wrong.