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Jake White on coaching

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bluebokPro3,977 posts
04 Jul 2018, 09:23
#81
04 Jul 2018, 09:23#81

I must just quickly add, before I get thrown into the "prejudiced fools" heap, I never liked Flek as a player or as a coach. He was stupid to get caught out in this incident, and deserved to be embarrassed, but that does not change the fact that Mike is smoking his soc ks if he thinks Flek was showboating behind the try line.  

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PakieCaptain17,321 posts
04 Jul 2018, 11:34
#82
04 Jul 2018, 11:34#82

I consider the "prejudiced fools" to be a position of honor on this board. Instead of being wary of getting thrown in with us, you should instead be kicking down the door to get in, Bluebok.

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clevermikeCoach57,555 posts
04 Jul 2018, 14:21
#83
04 Jul 2018, 14:21#83

Nobody will last with you lot because basically Mozart and you are dishonest.  

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MozartCaptain49,914 posts
04 Jul 2018, 23:11
#84
04 Jul 2018, 23:11#84
Nobody will last.....what about Benne Osler, Jannie Englebrecht, Doug Hopwood and Mannetjies Roux they have all 'lasted'......as have the great Morne Steyn, the Wunderkind Frans Steyn, Air Matfield and Willem Alberts. Get real.
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clevermikeCoach57,555 posts
05 Jul 2018, 05:54
#85
05 Jul 2018, 05:54#85

What a joke - the worst part being Morne Steyn - the great player even his braai companion Meyer gave up on.   Other than he non-center Fat Fransie and the non-loosie Alberts - the rest were good players in their prime.     A fool like you will always be a fool. 

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MozartCaptain49,914 posts
05 Jul 2018, 06:34
#86
05 Jul 2018, 06:34#86
They will be talking about Willem Alberts long after Liggies is only talked about by his family. Oh wait, all the coaches were wrong and you Captain Dotage is right. LMAOFY!
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AugenöffnerPro6,974 posts
06 Jul 2018, 14:43
#87
06 Jul 2018, 14:43#87

Morne was an interesting case. He wasn't very fast and didn't have much acceleration but was strong. Overall not what I like in a 10 but he had a good pass, I really liked Potgieter and he was more of a flair player and upgraded everything Morne could do. Morne somehow found a way of being productive. He holds lots of records and has an incredible points per test rate. Overall you've got to give  him some credit. But Pollard and Boshoff came onto the scene and his time went (Boshoff should have been Pollard's backup, not Lambie or Jantjies). I was disappointed how the fans booed Pollard off the field. The kid is so good and did so much already. Our fans are the most fickle in the world.

Albert's could have quiet periods. I think he never got back to his best after his injuries in 2014 and 2015 which was bad news for the Boks. When playing well he lifted the Boks massively into a whole other level. 

Fransie was a good centre. He just never sorted out his issues with SARU. We could have used him after Jean got injured. I believe we'd have gone on to beat New Zealand and win the World Cup if he was in the squad. 


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bluebokPro3,977 posts
06 Jul 2018, 15:24
#88
06 Jul 2018, 15:24#88

The dam is about to break....

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AugenöffnerPro6,974 posts
10 Nov 2019, 11:31
#89
10 Nov 2019, 11:31#89

Here we have it, the origin of the Folau/Kirchner lie. How far has Oom Muck erred from the way? As far as his nose will take him. 

What will it be Muck, crow or egg? 

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clevermikeCoach57,555 posts
10 Nov 2019, 12:34
#90
10 Nov 2019, 12:34#90

Sure

It said clearly that you were re[eating a story from 2013 when you claimed that Kirchner os a better layer than Folau.   Very bad you even came out with the totally wrong analysis.   It was 2018 when I wrote about the issue of high balls kicked at Folau and then you thought to repeat BS you spouted in 2013.   The fact is you are totally deluded about players and in your stupidity you build up a fictional image of player performances and then put it on site.  Happy Idiots Day to you. and thanks for confirming that you are indeed an idiot. LMAO       

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AugenöffnerPro6,974 posts
10 Nov 2019, 13:09
#91
10 Nov 2019, 13:09#91


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CeradynePro9,374 posts
10 Nov 2019, 13:56
#92
10 Nov 2019, 13:56#92

Shit, I always thought that the thread about Morne joining PSG was the funniest Mike blunder but somehow this one is right up there as well. Especially the old coot even trying to refute the clear video evidence.

Hahahahaha. 

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AugenöffnerPro6,974 posts
10 Nov 2019, 14:57
#93
10 Nov 2019, 14:57#93

If only he could keep his mouth shut he could conceal his dark, sordid past. He just can't help himself. However he likes it, I laugh all the same. What a week it has been for the poor dear. 

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clevermikeCoach57,555 posts
10 Nov 2019, 15:01
#94
10 Nov 2019, 15:01#94

AO

The only time I can ever remember when a Springbok was boo-ed was dear Morne in the PE test in 2012 against England.  He was just about the real Morne when the crowd started to boo him and nobody can lame them for losing patience after bugger-up after bugger-up by Morne.  .  When did that Pollard incident occur and where did it happen?  

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AugenöffnerPro6,974 posts
10 Nov 2019, 15:10
#95
10 Nov 2019, 15:10#95

Pollard was booed in 2015, the ignorant plastics wanted Lambie. The first Puma test. Habana and Percy were also booed. For a fan, your knowledge of Bok rugby is exceedingly poor. However, we've already established that you are no Bok supporter, merely a plastic with a deep infatuation for J-Raz. 

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MozartCaptain49,914 posts
10 Nov 2019, 16:15
#96
10 Nov 2019, 16:15#96

I believe Percy was boo'ed  as well. Pollard, Percy and Morne.....I guess our fans don't like winning.

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clevermikeCoach57,555 posts
10 Nov 2019, 17:13
#97
10 Nov 2019, 17:13#97

Percy was never boo-ed even though some in the Pretoria crowd in 1997  was bitterly unhappy about him.  He scored a magnificent try and he Springboks win the test by a huge margin.  So no boo-ing as stated.   

And now for the real one.    The first Puma test - Pollard was not boo-ed specifically - he actually had a very good game - the whole team was,   The first loss on home soil against  Argentina.   The problem was not the fault of Pollard - the whole selected team was PATHETIC - normal Meyer selection madness.      

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clevermikeCoach57,555 posts
11 Nov 2019, 10:14
#99
11 Nov 2019, 10:14#99

AO

As per normal I was correct about Pollard being boo-ed and you are talking BS.  The team, captain an coach was boo-ed and deservedly so.

The match you quoted was not under Meyer as coach and was likely in 2010-11 when Matfield was already hopeless.   Deserved to be boo-ed anyway,  


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MozartCaptain49,914 posts
12 Nov 2019, 06:47
#100
12 Nov 2019, 06:47#100

This interview With Percy from the rugbydump:


Your career was a bit of a rollercoaster ride, going from a situation where you were booed at Loftus, to being the highest ever points scorer for SA and a World Cup winner. Any regrets? 
Definitely no regrets. Life is a challenge on and off the field.


......


You just lie Muck .....over and over again you disgusting man.



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AugenöffnerPro6,974 posts
12 Nov 2019, 07:05
#101
12 Nov 2019, 07:05#101

Tough luck Dreck, the article was posted in 2008. Fresh off the World Cup as a champion.

Herr Dreck defending his brethren, die Kunststoffe. 

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AugenöffnerPro6,974 posts
12 Nov 2019, 09:06
#102
12 Nov 2019, 09:06#102

Pollard booed around the 62nd/63rd minute as the crowd proceeded to chant Lambie. 


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clevermikeCoach57,555 posts
12 Nov 2019, 10:24
#103
12 Nov 2019, 10:24#103

AO 

Thanks for posting the clip.   Just three observations from what was shown:-  

*   You obviously missed the booing as the players came off the field at half-time

*    There was a cheer meeting Lambie - no booing at all.

*    The problem was the whole team was pathetic and extremely poorly coached,   There was near to no  follow-up on kicks.   A clear sign of what was going to happen against Japan..

The above was clear throughout 2015 - individual efforts followed by bad ball handling errors and turnovers, coupled to donating of penalties to Argentina.   The props were pathetic in scrums  - the loosies pathetic in all aspects of the game - and Bismarck was what?   So bad he had to be replaced by Strauss.   

The whole saga could be described as in the main to poor coaching and a disastrous lack of team co-operation and effort.    .                

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AugenöffnerPro6,974 posts
12 Nov 2019, 10:37
#104
12 Nov 2019, 10:37#104

The classic Dreck diversion, you need to mix your game up. Taking a leaf out of the Book of J-Raz? Yes, this game was error-strewn. Where was Lood, Coetzee, Koch et al? Damian missing 50% of his tackles, Coetzee missing 60% of his. Sadly Brussow didn't do himself any favours. What did I always say about this game? A lack of grunt was exposed by a very physical Puma effort. A scrum collapse akin to what Beast achieved in this year's final. Look at the correction the following week. Who was back? Victor and a reshuffled front row. 

Oh, and on the subject of handling errors, how like you this year's obscene handling error stats throughout the World Cup? The average was actually worse than this Puma test. Hook, line, and sinker. You are so pre dictable!

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PakieCaptain17,321 posts
12 Nov 2019, 10:37
#105
12 Nov 2019, 10:37#105

Mike, if you can't hear the booing at 62:59 after Pollard sends the restart straight into touch you're stone deaf.

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clevermikeCoach57,555 posts
12 Nov 2019, 11:17
#106
12 Nov 2019, 11:17#106

The fact is I am slightly deaf and all I heard was cheering when Lambie came on.  

Mind you Pollard was pathetic in the game anyway,   Kpwever, fact ios there is another series of distortions here.   Beast scrumming was a mess - he was penalized twice for scrum collapsing. 

And fact is there was no team play at all - another proof of the piss poor coaching of Meyer.   There were only five of the players in the team in the WC final in 2019 and all five were fiuve times better than they were in 2015.   Why did that happen?   

In summary it was a piss poor game - typical of the geriatrics who made up the bulk of Meyer's 2015 WC squad.   Next write-up about the team the next week playing the Argentina "B" team - really further nonsense in capital letters. 

Fact is the number of rugby geriatrics remained rather similar in the two Argentina tests and  the Japan disaster a few weeks later.     The team in the latter game suffered from the same problem - totally inept coaching and team effort,       .  

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PakieCaptain17,321 posts
12 Nov 2019, 11:44
#107
12 Nov 2019, 11:44#107

Mike at 17:13 on 10 Nov:

The first Puma test - Pollard was not boo-ed specifically - he actually had a very good game

Mike at 11:17 on 12 Nov :

Mind you Pollard was pathetic in the game anyway

Just more proof that you change your story whichever way the wind is blowing with little regard for what actually happened.

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CeradynePro9,374 posts
12 Nov 2019, 12:23
#108
12 Nov 2019, 12:23#108

@Pakie. Stop arguing with Ou Maaikie. He was there, standing on his stellation, and he saw it all. 

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PakieCaptain17,321 posts
12 Nov 2019, 14:33
#109
12 Nov 2019, 14:33#109

I am building my own stellation in my backyard as we speak. We'll soon see what's what.

(At least I think that's what I'm building, not sure I trust the confused looking guy who stuffed the building plans in my hands with an ominous shrug after much insistence and dirty words on my part) .

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AJHPro3,183 posts
13 Nov 2019, 16:53
#110
13 Nov 2019, 16:53#110

Denny reading through this blog found it very interesting that you claimed to be a betting man (2 July 2018).

Well you for sure did not win on  this earlier claim now did you.

sharkbok, unfortunately I never did rise to the level of play that you did as a Springbok member but they only had one spot open and you got it.

WATER BOY.

Find it great that during my absence from this site that the two of you had such great thoughts about me. Shows the real class and character of both you winners.

Flattered.

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Devil's AdvocatePro7,008 posts
13 Nov 2019, 17:18
#111
13 Nov 2019, 17:18#111

LMFAO @ Pakie

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