Jake White should not coash England - Venter

The following from News 24:-

Former Springbok centre Brendan Venter has taken a swipe at Jake White's credentials to replace Stuart Lancaster as the next England coach.    Venter, who has recently served as a technical advisor at both the Sharks in South Africa and Saracens in England, was watching on Friday as Jake White's Montpellier went down 41-18 to Harlequins in a European Challenge Cup clash in London.

 

Venter, who was involved at the Sharks when White's appointment as coach of the union's Super Rugby side was announced in 2013, took to Twitter to voice his disapproval of White's coaching methods.

"Watching Quins play Montpellier. Jake White has definitely not embraced the modern way of playing. Kicking everything. Good luck Eng," Venter tweeted before getting stuck in some more.

"Having worked over there I can assure you the Twickenham faithful will be cutting their wrists if Jake got that job," Venter continued.

Venter also suggested that White should be winning more domestic games playing such a "negative" brand of rugby.   Montpellier are currently 6th in the French Top 14 standings.  

White has been vocal on his desires to replace Lancaster as England coach, and he has been considered one of the favourites for the post.   The 2007 World Cup-winning Springbok coach was quoted this week as saying that Heyneke Meyer should not have his contract with the Springboks renewed."

Oops - why do I get the feeling that Mozart and co will flip a lid about the above.  They would say that Venter is stupid as well - because Mozart swear the brand of rugby used by White is the only game in town.   Now why did we say that the Sharks asked White to leave?   Because he was clueless about the game iro backline usage.   Anyone destroying the backline and thrusting Fat Fransie Steyn - no Venter confirm the same.

Venter went further and tweeted the following message as well:-

 *      Watching Quins play Montpellier. Jake White has definitely not embraced the modern way of playing. Kicking everything. Good luck Eng.

*  Having worked over there i can assure you the Twickenham faithful will be cutting their wrists if Jake got that job.

*  Once you decide to play this negative you have to win everything.

* .How can we criticize Heyneke for being one dimensional. Jake is 6 th in France. Loosing 5 tries to 0 in Europe. Playing shocking rugby. ?

* Coaching is not easy. But. We all need to embrace change and Jake is struggling with it. If Heyneke can not he should also move on.

Very clear and precise on the issue. The last tweet is significant - Meyer has proven over and over again that he cannot embrace change - so according to Venter;s analysis he should also go.

 Pray please tell me what Mr. Venter delivered for the following teams with his expertise:
SpringboksSariesSharks
Absolutely zero......just another guy trying to make a few bucks on the back of rugby.

I would say Venter is more useless than Jake White. Although Venter will probably play the same game plan if he was coach.  Jake White has done better at the Sharks than Venter and Gary the fool Gold

 SB
Sure White did better - he was primarily responsible for emptying out the stands insofar as the Sharks was concerned,   

Yes White did empty the stands- but it cant be worse than under the reign of Gary the Fool.
It is a case of which one is less useless not better.

 I've always believed that JW is more of a national coach than a club coach. I'm not convinced that he is suited to the daily grind of club rugby. The RWC format suits his style of coaching and that's mainly because of the knockout basis, if it were round robin he'd be found wanting. The AB's played the exact style of rugby that JW preaches in both the semi final against the Boks and again in the final. Get behind the opposition with clever kicking and then choke down on their ball forcing the error. On that basis I think JW would be good for England if all they want to win is the RWC.

 Mikey ish yoush drunk again matey ?I reckon Jake should not coach  England either  .

 
England would regret appointing him.

He has no integrity whatsoever. No such thing as honouring his word.

Ask his wife ... the Brumbies ... the Sharks ...

 

 My problem with White is lack of understanding that rugby is a 15 man game and that it is not a 10 or at maximum an 11 man game.  A kicking game is fine - but none of the SA flyhalfs and obviously also not the English flyhalfs or scrummies has the competene in kicking strategically and accurately like Carter is capable of.   
Jake White's game plan is an exact replica of the one used by Meyer in the RWC.  Either play the ball back to the forwards or at most to the flyhalfs with rare attempts taking the ball out wider.  If in those cases the ball does go to the 12 he would be in traffic and incapable of doing anything with the ball.   That means that there is no real possibility of playing attacking rugby with the objective if scoring of tries.
That plan has restricted chances of winning anything in the end of tournaments as has been proven over the past few years.   It actually ends up with embarrassing losses against countries like New Zealand and in the case of SA against Argentina and Japan.
Venter is right in saying what he did - about White.  The only time White was really successful as a coach is when he got Eddie Jones in 2007 and Lakham at the Brumbies and was forced to listen to them.
The lack of understanding that rugby is a 15 man game and 15 men should be properly used is where coaches like White and Meyer fails the test as coaches.