The Bools were camped on the Stormers line with the feed when Marcel was once again popped....this time by Kebble. How the Bools steadied their scrum after Greyling was penalized heaven only knows....Marcel was up and out in every scrum and Greyling was flat on his belly. It seemed there was nothing for the Stormers to scrum against.
But the Bools chances came down to those two scrums before Marcel got the hook.
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Here you will see a fine illustration of Marcel being popped today. Ending the scrum vertically. Oddly enough once this happened the Bools seemed to push through him quite effectively. But this was a problem last week against the Beast and again this time around against both Kitshoff and Kebble. He can't stay down under pressure.
Marcel stood firm against Kitshoff......2 penalties each.....so much for you saying Kitshoff would break Marcel......never happened. The Bulls issue was at 1.
The Stormes are also aided by two monster locks in Etzebeth and Botha.....a luxuary the Bulls do not have with Hattingh on board.
Marcel was dead on his feet by the time Kebble took the field.......playing your tighthead into the 70th minute after a titanic battle against Kitshoff is just plain stupidity
Rubbish Marcel and Kitshoff both went up.......hence Kitshoff also receiving 2 penalties resulting from pressure.
He stood firm and proved yet again that its a load of utter rubbish regarding his scrummaging.......you told me Kitshoff would break him, never came close.....there was nothing in it......not bad for a prop playing with a liability at loosehead and a lightweight like Hattingh at lock.
Marcel proved his metal for the Boks and did the same against Kitshoff.
Marcel remains one of our best tightheads
Marcel proved his "metal"....surely not. Marcel was popped in every scrum....just as he was against the Beast.
He is another liability with no technique.
No he was not popped in every scrum that is a total lie......when some of the scrums went up, both Kitshoff and Marcel went up.......there was no popping happening.......Kitshoff got penalised in one of them for scrumming up.
You are speaking crap but more to the point you don't know what you are talking about.
If Marcel had been that bad the penalty count would not have been 2 all between the two......let me guess you reckon the ref got it wrong.
You are smarting because you said Marcel would get is arse kicked and it never happened......not even close.
Marcel stood firm as he always does and will do next week again
The penalty count was 3 to Marcel ....zero to Kitshoff, note the three penalties to Marcel in the second from right column....and the zero to Kitshoff in the same column. What game were you watching?
PKitshoff0/000/1/12342011 4/20/000/0
PM van der Merwe0/000/0/550001 14/00/030/0
Well that is clearly wrong as its clear the ref awarded 2 penalties against Kitshoff, one for scrumming up and one for slipping the bind.
To show how crap those stats are.....Marcel had 2 awarded against him against Kitshoff and 2 against Kebble........the statistician needs to find a new job
Bullshit.......the very comment by the ref was scrumming up by 1 and later it was slipping bind by 1.
It was two all between the 2 and nothing in it.
The Kitshoff destroying Marcel just never happened as you so forthrightly predicted......I did laugh at every scrum, waiting for the Kitshoff knock out blow.
Kitshoff is a quality prop as is Marcel......we have a number right now as we do in all positions
Oh what utter fucking rubbish......being exhausted is obviously going to affect his scrumming and he was spent by the time Kebble came on.....failing which one would have to conclude that Kebble was a far better loosehead than Kitshoff as Marcel had no issues with Kitshoff at all.
Marcel is a class tighthead as he will continue to prove week after week.
All we are witnessing is your bullshit as you are smarting given the fact that you predicted that Kitshoff would demolish Marcel........it never happened, was never going to happen.
Live with it instead of making things up.....we all saw the game and I am yet to see any report mentioning Kitshoff destroying Marcel.......we cant say the same about Malherbe vs Greyling.
Kitshoff vs Marcel was 2 all - FACT
Unbelievable....this guy loses the game for the Bools by ceding two crucial penalties in the highly contested end of the game....three to zero according to the ESPN stats that everybody uses reliably week after week.....and you find excuses.
It's always excuses.....excuses for Taute , excuses for Lomp, excuses for JJ.
They never lost those tests, things were just unfair. Man I wouldn't give you a garbage truck to manage Dave. You have no performance standards....none. Only favourites.
No excuses at all.....I am telling it as it is.....not speaking complete shit as you are.......name a single report which mirrors the crap you have come up with.....its simply a load of crap as you have been exposed for making that stupid call before the game.
So you reckon those ESPN stats are accurate? The same that cant even get the number of penalties Marcel himself conceded right.....wow.....but why not do yourself a favour and go watch that game again......for I sure as hell am going to and I'm going to point out the exact minutes Kitshoff was penalised.
It was Kitshoff 2 vs Marcel 2 and that is a fact.
As for the biggest insult of all.......now all of a sudden Marcel lost the game for the Bulls. Moz with all due respect you sound bloody stupid........you have this warped take on individual players losing games for sides......it never got any worse that that utter bullshit we read about JJ losing the AB test.....Marcel losing the Bulls game is on a par.
You live in cloud kookoo land.
What excuses did I make for JJ, Taute or Lood....name them
Bottom line is you are smarting as your great prediction that Kitshoff would break Marcel fell flat on its face.
Got to also love the fact that Marcel playing right up to the 74th minute would not have been exhausted.....wow
I have seen Franks popped many a time as I have see Beast flat on his face......one would swear that if a scrum goes up its only one props fault.....that is the case if that prop is going backwards.
There was no popping going on.....the props went up simultaneously......with each prop conceding penalties at different stages.....Kitshoff for scrumming up, that's not a pressure thing and the other time was for slipping his bind, which was a pressure thing.
Blaming a prop for falling on his face, when his opposite number is in exactly the same position is a laugh, especially when that fall is the result of opposition prop hinging.
Malherbe destroyed Greyling, so banging on about him being on his face is a laugh.
Marcel, Coenie, Koch, Nyakane and Malherbe are blood good props, better than anything other countries have coming through the ranks.
The likes of Coenie, Nyakane and Marcel are new converts to tighthead and doing bloody good jobs.
The reality of props is that no prop gets to dominate throughout......the spoils are shared by the good props and much has to do with the collective scrum as well.
There are props that don't crack in the scrums.....Greyling, Stevens and Werner Kruger are classic cases
