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Lancaster to consider his position; Planet Rugby

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Just_winCaptain18,570 posts
04 Oct 2015, 08:53
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04 Oct 2015, 08:53#1

England head coach Stuart Lancaster and captain Chris Robshaw apologised to the nation after they were knocked out of the Rugby World Cup.

The World Cup hosts were outclassed by Australia across the park at Twickenham, knowing they had to win to stay in the hunt to make the last eight.

Instead they travel to play Uruguay in Manchester with nothing to play for, and will be remembered as the first host nation to fail to make the quarter-finals.

"My priority is to get the team ready. I'm not in control of anything else," Lancaster said.

"Obviously, I've got to consider my position.  It's not going to be my deicsion. We've still got a game to go and need to put in a good performance against Uruguay up in Manchester. As I said during the week, the responsibility lies with me so I will have to think about it.

"We're absolutely gutted to be going out of the World Cup, and more so our own World Cup. Words can't express how disappointed we are. We've had some fantastic support and we feel like we've let them down.

"Credit to Australia. I thought they were probably one of the best sides we've played in the last 12 to 18 months and they deserved the win.

"I spoke to the players and just told them that there's a lot of good young players in that team, and it's important that the country stays behind them. A lot of them are going to go on to be great players. It shouldn't take away what we've done in the last three and a half years. We've not lost many big games and certainly not by that margin."

Australia 's clear dominance at the breakdown, where David Pocock was the star, prompted questions to the England coach about the RFU's policy on overseas players which has denied Lancaster the chance to work with Steffon Armitage.

"It's a conversation we've had time and time again," he stated.

"The RFU have the policy and will stick with it because of the long-term situation of having the best English players in England. Australia have two world class players in the position and I'd say Pocock is arguably the best in the world."

Lancaster has been praised for rebuilding England's image off the field and he hopes that the good work put in won't unravel on the back of England's exit, or that the Rugby World Cup would suffer without the host nation involved in the last eight.

He explained: "I hope it won't undo the work done off the field. When the emotion dies down there's still a fantastic group of young players who will go on to become great players. It was a tough pool and we put ouselves in a tough position with that loss last week to Wales.

"I still think this will be the best ever Rugby World Cup. Too many good people have put too much work in.

"For us, I can't even begin to explain how it feels to go out. The other countries will continue to play well and the crowds will come to support, because that's what we do."

England's problems at the scrum were clear throughout but Lancaster had no issues with the refereeing, although he singled out a key call against his side which led to Bernard Foley's second try.

Such was the Wallabies' dominance that Lancaster admitted they can go far in the competition.

He explained: "During the game there were some scrum penalties which went our way and some didn't. There are no complaints about that area, Australia have clearly improved. We put our replacements on and we hoped to improve the situation, but they didn't.

"They've got 700 or 800 caps and that experienced showed. That scrum penalty was a crucial turning point and gave us a mountain to climb.

"They can win the Rugby World Cup based on that performance. Their scrums and breakdown were good, they played with good width and they have some world class players."

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Just_winCaptain18,570 posts
04 Oct 2015, 08:55
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04 Oct 2015, 08:55#2
 Tough loss given England are the host nation. They played well for parts of the game but just couldn't finish many opportunities with points. Break down & scrums were part of the probem. Credit to Oz they played very well. 
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bobbok...Captain10,129 posts
04 Oct 2015, 10:39
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04 Oct 2015, 10:39#3
 Alas, Lancaster bombs
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clevermikeCoach57,555 posts
04 Oct 2015, 11:18
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04 Oct 2015, 11:18#4
 Lancaster signed a renewal contract before the WC started to stay on until the 2019 WC.    The problem remains are there enough players coming through the normal England structures to cater for a strong England team.
The other issues is the contracting of SH players by the English club sides - is that not putting a damper on local development of young players?   
Those are serious questions and I believe the ERFU must look at carefully.  Even if Lancaster is replaced, the fundamental problems will not be solved and any new coach will inherit the problems mentioned above.      
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Saffolk Captain30,741 posts
04 Oct 2015, 12:05
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04 Oct 2015, 12:05#5
Oz were a far superior side. Some real clout in Pocock and Hooper in the forwards and some world beaters in the backs starting with Foley. Having the impressive Beale on the field early on was a bonus for them.
Lancaster is another Meyer and Robshaw is not an open sides backside.
England need Corb back at 1, Marler and Mako are liabilities. The need to find a true openside and a 12 with clout.
They have Armitage for 6 and Tuilagi for 12.
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DbDraadCaptain26,388 posts
04 Oct 2015, 12:38
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04 Oct 2015, 12:38#6
 No shame in losing to a superior Aus side. England lost against a very motivated Wales side. It happens. Tough luck. At least they didn't lose against the likes of Japan.
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CleanCutPro9,905 posts
04 Oct 2015, 12:49
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04 Oct 2015, 12:49#7
 
Yeah ... how can South Africa ever live that one down?

That's what this side will always be remembered for.


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carpetmuncherPro1,667 posts
04 Oct 2015, 13:25
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04 Oct 2015, 13:25#8
 great points mike...england's game suffers from too much foreign players. its killed there local player development and one can see the depth of players coming through is terrible.
we are in the same boat we we are losing players because of saru's rubbish policy in selecting players based overseas. that policy has opened the flood gates and now our local teams are battling to complete with offers. this all has a cascade effect on our player development.
this all has come about since meyer took over. so obviously meyer has been pushing this agenda for some time now.
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