FIXTURESNo upcoming fixtures — check back soon.
FORUM / RUGBY /  Latest report of Fat Willie

Latest report of Fat Willie

Started by clevermike23 REPLIES461 VIEWS· 29 Sept 2015, 05:04
SHAREXFACEBOOKWHATSAPPTELEGRAMREDDITLINKEDIN
CL
clevermikeCoach57,555 posts
29 Sept 2015, 05:04
#1
29 Sept 2015, 05:04#1
The following report on Alberts from Supersport:
"Springbok flank Willem Alberts is fast running out of time to be declared fit for the rest of the Rugby World Cup campaign.

Alberts will be assessed on Monday to prove his fitness after pulling out of the Japan game at the last minute with a calf strain, and there is a growing concern the Boks are simply carrying a player who may not be fit at all.

The big flanker is vital to Springbok coach Heyneke Meyer’s plans and has been missed all season. But with just seven games under his belt in the Vodacom Super Rugby season and nothing since, the time is running out for Alberts to play himself back into match fitness and form.

It was noticeable that he sat out all of last week’s practice sessions in the lead-up to the Samoa game and with Monday’s field training session cancelled to allow players to recover from the bruising win over Samoa, it remains a question whether or not Alberts will be ready this week?

There is an argument that if he isn’t ready for the third week of a seven week tournament the Boks should look at replacing him, and it is understandable as the team only have five loose forwards at the tournament.

The return of Duane Vermeulen has definitely made a difference, but if Alberts is not able to play this week then the Boks will seriously have to consider bringing in a replacement.

Asked about Alberts fitness, team doctor Craig Roberts said the big flank has been working hard to get fit.

“Willem has been working hard, he has been cycling. We will assess him tomorrow (Monday) and he will be assessed. With the knocks and bruises we have we have to make sure we have enough loose forwards for the weekend,” Dr Roberts said.

Asked if the line in the sand where a decision on Alberts is pending was approaching, Dr Roberts added “We’re getting there.”

Coach Heyneke Meyer already endured flack for replacing Alberts against Japan with Pieter-Steph du Toit, with the Boks being beaten at the breakdown and the side also only have one specialist fetcher. But any talk of replacing Alberts will mean replacing a like for like, with Jacques Potgieter the next seven flank on the list.

Meyer may decide though, that Marcel Coetzee, who narrowly missed out on selection and has played both sides for the Boks before, may be a better bet in that case."

Meyer made some really weird selections when he picked the WC squad.   The weirdest one was to select the poorly-performing and low workrate Alberts as a loosie - followed by his selection of Coenie as a prop.

Over the past two years Alberts has been consistently out of rugby for long periods had leg problems _ I called it jokingly as fat strains - but fact is he is grossly overweight and very slow.

He by now had a nice three week holiday in England paid for by SARU.   Even if declared fit by today - he would be "injured" again by Saturday.   

He should never have been in the squad in the first place - but it is to my mind overdue that he be sent to Stade Francais - even though oit would mean damaging the French food supply chain seriously.  

I don't think Coetzee is ready yet as a replacement after his own injury - so the replacement should be either Kriel or Labuschagne.    

   

   


DE
DezertFoxPro2,288 posts
29 Sept 2015, 05:17
#2
29 Sept 2015, 05:17#2
 If Alberts has to be replaced, it should be for Brussow and Louw can be benched. Not many alternatives, Pot is not good enough to be a Bok... the other names are just bodies to fill a jersey.
Would be a shame to lose Alberts. He has a been a key figure in our resurgence at the beakdown, a force in scrums, a massive presence as a carrier soaking up more defenders than Duane and his exceptional work on defense. Simply noone else can bring what he brings, so trying to go like for like would be foolish. Duane, Schalk and Brussow would be monstrous.
MO
MozartCaptain49,914 posts
29 Sept 2015, 05:22
#3
29 Sept 2015, 05:22#3
All all that build up just to punt the very ordinary Labuschagne for the umpteenth time....at first not physical enough but fastish....then a bit more physical but no longer fast. Labs has generally had a career dogged by what he didn't have.
MO
MonsterBokClub Pro442 posts
29 Sept 2015, 05:30
#4
29 Sept 2015, 05:30#4
I believe Brussouw should get the nod, other than his obvious attributes he's well in tune with the Bok program and will slip in with ease.  
CL
clevermikeCoach57,555 posts
29 Sept 2015, 05:41
#5
29 Sept 2015, 05:41#5
 The Chorus at it again with fairy tales flowing like lava - especially on the part of DF.  Alberts never was a factor at breakdowns - he never got to breakdowns in time and rarely if ever did anything at all in those situations.  For him breakdown ball recovery was an impossibility because he was so clumsy,   Remember the incident in the 2013 Ellis Park test - where Aaron Smith was tackled two meters out from the tryline less than a meter away from where Alberts was and instead of trying to effect a turnover - Alberts fell over his own feet?  That after he missed a tackle on Read and Morne missed one on Ben Smith - leading to the first AB try in the match - the second try resulting from the fact that Alberts messed up the said breakdown situation.  Their is no evidence that he ever effected a turnover at a breakdown situation or ever contributed positively to ball recovery.   
The rest of the fairy tales is equally absurd.  Alberts is the loosie with the most absurd  low number of tackles in games and with the highest missed tackle ratio's.  Even though years ago he might have been a good ball carrier - in recent years his carries was highly ineffective and rare.  A low work rate player - whose contributions to the team performance was low as well.                
MO
MozartCaptain49,914 posts
29 Sept 2015, 05:44
#6
29 Sept 2015, 05:44#6
Brussouw wasn't convincing in the RC, but I agree he is clearly the best option at this stage. Coetzee is hurt and was never a skilled playe, relying on superior effort....that doesn't work at the WC when everybody tries hard. Kriel  doesn't suit our game plan. And Labuschagne is not test material.
Brussouw has had great games in a Bok jersey...even if current form is concerning that promises something.
MO
MonsterBokClub Pro442 posts
29 Sept 2015, 06:04
#7
29 Sept 2015, 06:04#7
I don't think Brussouw's the best player on the planet, but he is the best fix given the circumstances.  
BO
bobbok...Captain10,129 posts
29 Sept 2015, 06:52
#8
29 Sept 2015, 06:52#8
Fat Willie says, 'hold your hosses, the fat lady aint sung & I'm not yet gone done '.

OuMaaik, is this rather more a case of your wishful thinking I wonder ?
CL
clevermikeCoach57,555 posts
29 Sept 2015, 07:30
#9
29 Sept 2015, 07:30#9
 blobbok
I merely read the report in the media - but as to performance Alberts was in fact sh!t poor in the last three years.  

CL
CleanCutPro9,905 posts
29 Sept 2015, 07:46
#10
29 Sept 2015, 07:46#10
 
I know ... let's call up Spies. He's a Bull and has a lot more caps than Lappies or Kriel.

Not sure if he's on crutches but that would be a bonus ... perfect for Meyer's selection criteria.

 


BL
BlikkiesPro1,526 posts
29 Sept 2015, 09:16
#11
29 Sept 2015, 09:16#11
Well, if Meyer wants to call up a Bull, he will do well by calling Arno Botha - tall, good fetcher, fast and a fine lineout jumper. 
CE
CeradynePro9,374 posts
29 Sept 2015, 09:36
#12
29 Sept 2015, 09:36#12
Desert Fox
 
Status: Bok regular 
Posts: 1655RE: Latest report of Fat Willie
September 29, 2015, 05:17:27

 If Alberts has to be replaced, it should be for Brussow and Louw can be benched.

 I am only quoting this one because it was the first post on the thread suggesting a replacement for Alberts. I doubt if he could be replaced, if ruled out for the rest of the tournament. AFAIK the rules are that a player who was not fully fit, going into the tournament, cannot be replaced. This means that unless they can prove that he was fully fit when he boarded the plane, and that he picked up an new injury, he could not be replaced.

CL
clevermikeCoach57,555 posts
29 Sept 2015, 10:22
#13
29 Sept 2015, 10:22#13
 Ceradyne
It would be impossible for the World Rugby to prove that Fatso was not fully fit when nominated and and accepted by them as a squad member.  It would be easy to prove that he developed problems subsequently in training - so I think they would be able to prove that FATSO was fully fit when nominated - but got injured in training subsequently.
Don't think they will have a problem in repla cing the useless FATSO.      
CE
CeradynePro9,374 posts
29 Sept 2015, 11:31
#14
29 Sept 2015, 11:31#14
 Whether it can be proven or not is not the discussion. I merely stated the rules as far as I understand it. The rest is just the normal speculative BS. 
SA
Saffolk Captain30,741 posts
29 Sept 2015, 11:43
#15
29 Sept 2015, 11:43#15

What was useless Alberts doing there in the first place......when last did he make an impression


Another one of clueless Meyer's cock ups  

TT
The_TruthClub Pro471 posts
29 Sept 2015, 11:48
#16
29 Sept 2015, 11:48#16
 2015-08-15
CL
clevermikeCoach57,555 posts
29 Sept 2015, 12:00
#17
29 Sept 2015, 12:00#17
 The Truth he was bog ordinary in the 63 minutes he played in that match.  Du Toit did in 17 minutes more than Alberts did in the 63 minutes he was on the field of play.   Alberts did his normal - as little is possible to nothing of substance.    
SA
Saffolk Captain30,741 posts
29 Sept 2015, 12:49
#18
29 Sept 2015, 12:49#18
The Troof as clueless as ever . PSDT showed Alberts up in a big way in that game 
WA
WardadPro6,663 posts
29 Sept 2015, 13:14
#19
29 Sept 2015, 13:14#19
 Thought this was about skelton .
DE
DezertFoxPro2,288 posts
29 Sept 2015, 14:20
#20
29 Sept 2015, 14:20#20
 Steph has never had a standout game for the Boks. He is much like Lambie, all the hype but no production. It is a given that Alberts can carry the team, so I will continue to back him over the preten ders.
SA
Saffolk Captain30,741 posts
29 Sept 2015, 14:59
#21
29 Sept 2015, 14:59#21
Fox stop speaking utter shit. PSDT upstaged Alberts and that's a fact  
CE
CeradynePro9,374 posts
29 Sept 2015, 15:38
#22
29 Sept 2015, 15:38#22
 Saffex
 
Status: Hall Of Fame 
Posts: 13650RE: Latest report of Fat Willie
September 29, 2015, 14:59:40

Fox stop speaking utter [removed]. PSDT upstaged Alberts and that's a fact  an opinion.


  •  0 Likes


Fixed that for you. You can thank me later. 
BE
Beeno1Captain40,032 posts
29 Sept 2015, 16:09
#23
29 Sept 2015, 16:09#23
Alberts hasnt played a decent game in  ages. Spot on Mike!
Its a difficult choice between Coetzee, Brussouw and Kriel as theya re different players. Ideally I would have left Kolisi at home. We could then have had in my view marcell - outstanding year and Kriel to be a impact off the bench - this guy is better than Hooper and would further supprt a more expansive game if that is what is required. However given the Kolisi quota issue rather just call up the very impressive Coeatzee.
Louw is being vastly underestimated by thsoe who love flash - you know what I am talking about - eg  when wee victor finds he has an open door and makes a few meters. His groupies ooooh and aaaah for weeks. Louw was very, very good against Samao for the discerning viewer. Got through mountains of hard work. 
Oaks show ponies like matfield and Kolisi are not guys to take to battle in a RWC. Imagine these fragile little players being in our team against England!!! 


AJ
Arthur JohnPro1,748 posts
29 Sept 2015, 19:14
#24
29 Sept 2015, 19:14#24
 So what is the latest on the Alberts issue.
Is he staying or going?
— END OF THREAD —

More from Rugby

More news