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Loadshedding by Escom

Started by clevermike18 REPLIES482 VIEWS· 15 Apr 2015, 10:04
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clevermikeCoach57,555 posts
15 Apr 2015, 10:04
#1
15 Apr 2015, 10:04#1

A fair warning - as from yesterday each area in SA will be without electricity for 7,5 hours per day - in other words for three 2,5 hours stints spread throughout the day.


Our area is off at present for 2,5 hours ending at 10:30 and will be off from 16:00 to 18:30 this evening.   The other off period was in the earlier hours of this morning.  ]


Things are getting worse by the day - it seems to me.  I am lucky - my sun and wind electricity system is holding out as expected.    

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Saffolk Captain30,741 posts
15 Apr 2015, 10:48
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15 Apr 2015, 10:48#2
That is disgusting and taking the piss......how are businesses supposed to operate with no electricity?   
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bluebokPro3,977 posts
15 Apr 2015, 11:58
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15 Apr 2015, 11:58#3
Thank the ANC not Eskom. ANC were warned by Eskom in plenty of time of the coming crisis, and they ignored it. Too busy think of ways to be corrupt.
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Saffolk Captain30,741 posts
15 Apr 2015, 12:09
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15 Apr 2015, 12:09#4
I hear water is the next to go
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becsPro4,378 posts
15 Apr 2015, 12:16
#5
15 Apr 2015, 12:16#5
Much more important to think about knocking down statues though, right ?!  
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clevermikeCoach57,555 posts
15 Apr 2015, 13:49
#6
15 Apr 2015, 13:49#6
 Dave
Don't remind me - we are already under severe water restrictions because of poor rains this year in the catchment area of the Hazelmere dam where we get our bulk water supply from.  Can only top up the swimming pool once a month and cannot use sprinklers to water the garden or wash a car using a hose.
  
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MozartCaptain49,914 posts
15 Apr 2015, 13:59
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15 Apr 2015, 13:59#7

 I remember reading articles on this issue some nine years ago when there was a spate of sporadic outages. And there was a fixed promissed, but one that left the country vulnerable for five years. We are well outside that "risk window" now. Things should be getting better if the initial Escom view was right, why are they getting worse? Are  there new plants that are supposed to come on line?

 

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clevermikeCoach57,555 posts
15 Apr 2015, 14:39
#8
15 Apr 2015, 14:39#8
 Mozart
There are five new powerplants being constructed - but the construction deadlines have all been missed and cost escalation was phenominal insofar as the three  Government construction programmes are concerned.  Two of the powerplants are constructed and will be operated by private concerns selling electricity to Eskom - but there was a six year delay before the contracts was entered into between the State and the private companies concerned.   Those are on track and should be starting to provide power by July-August this year.
Just as an aside to of the powerplants - Medupi and Kusekile - were supposed to have been completed two years ago.  Of the two only Unit 6 of the Medupi powerplant is operational.  The construction workers working for the construction company involved recently went on an illegal strike and all 1 700 of them were fired.  So a further delay in  completion of the Medupi plant is inevitable.
The whole problem is the stinking incompetence of Eskom and the fact that most existing plants are not maintained properly and lots of money just vanish into a big hole of corruption and theft.   
Despite the crisis Eskom intended to fire two thousand White professionals, technicians and artisans to tie in with the BEE objectives of Government.  Ramaphosa put an end to that silliness quickly and it is off the table at present.   
     
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MozartCaptain49,914 posts
15 Apr 2015, 14:45
#9
15 Apr 2015, 14:45#9
Yep I was afraid it was something like that....with all these water shortages, can you guys still brush your teeth twice a day 
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CeradynePro9,374 posts
15 Apr 2015, 15:56
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15 Apr 2015, 15:56#10
 There is an underlying problem as far as Eskom is concerned and not a lot of noise is made about that. One can only speculate why there is a thundering silence about it since that would point a finger directly back to the ANC led councils and their poor financial management and obvious greedy fingers of execs in the pies. This is the reality:
Will Eskom cut supply to your municipality?
Eskom has taken the first steps towards cutting electricity supply to the top 20 defaulting municipalities that collectively owe it R3.68 billion for bulk electricity supply.

The utility has announced its plans to cut supply to these municipalities from 6:00 to 10:00 and again at 17:00 to 21:00 every weekday; and 7:00 to 10:00 and 17:00 to 20:00 over weekends, starting in the middle of winter on June 5.

It started the formal process of informing all parties likely to be materially affected by the interruptions.

This follows National Treasury’s recent announcement that it is withholding money from 60 municipalities that persistently fail to pay Eskom and its other creditors on time. Treasury also stated its support for municipalities to disconnect electricity supply to government departments that are in arrears.

Eskom said at the end of March total municipal arrear debt amounted to R4.6 billion.

Eskom is increasingly struggling financially and is currently pulling all the levers in an effort to improve its liquidity and balance sheet. Government has indicated that it will not contribute beyond the R23 billion cash injection scheduled to be paid to Eskom during the current financial year.

Energy regulator Nersa has received an application for a retrospective adjustment of electricity tariffs for 2013/14 andEskom is expected to submit its proposal for a selective re-opener of the tariff determination for the three years from April 1 2015 to March 31 2018 soon. In a submission to local government association Salga, Eskom said it will apply for a total tariff increase of 25.3% for 2015/16.

Eskom has in the past threatened to disconnect defaulting municipalities, but political intervention in most cases prevented this from happening, without solving the non-payment issue. It remains to be seen whether government’s new appreciation of the severity of Eskom’s predicament will result in support of the utility acting decisively.

Eskom in a statement recognised that “the disconnection of electricity supply may cause undue hardship to consumers and members of the community, and may adversely affect the delivery of other services. However,” it said, “customer disconnection is always the last resort explored.”

Eskom said a list of defaulting municipalities will be published per province by April 30 2015 in local provincial media channels. “Consumers within the jurisdiction of a defaulting municipality will be given adequate notice in terms of the Promotion of Administrative Justice Act, no 3 of 2000, and will be given the opportunity to make written representations to Eskom.”

The list of the top 20 defaulting municipalities:

• Maluti-a-Phofung Municipality (Harrismith)
• Matjhabeng Municipality (Welkom)
• Emalahleni Local Municipality (Witbank)
• Ngwathe Local Municipality (Parys)
• Thaba Chweu Local Municipality (Lydenburg)
• Lekwa Local Municipality (Standerton)
• Govan Mbeki Municipality (Secunda)
• City of Matlosana Local Municipality (Klerksdorp)
• Naledi Local Municipality (Vryburg)
• Thabazimbi Local Municipality
• Msukaligwa Local Municipality (Ermelo)
• Lichtenburg Municipality
• Nala Local Municipality (Bothaville)
• Makana Local Municipality (Grahamstown)
• Madibeng Local Municipality (Brits)
• Randfontein Local Municipality
• Dihlabeng Municipality (Bethlehem)
• Nketoana Local Municipality (Reitz)
• Nama Khoi Local Municipality (Springbok)
• Westonaria Local Municipality

Nothing is said, though,  about the debt of the big guns, Tshwane, Johannesburg, Durban and Cape Town. 
While the major f/ups of Eskom can never be denied, they can also not be expected to keep the engines running of nobody is paying for the fuel. Of course the fatcats at the local councils will not suffer any hardship because they would most probably all have council funded generators at their houses.
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MozartCaptain49,914 posts
15 Apr 2015, 16:06
#11
15 Apr 2015, 16:06#11
All those who scoff at capitalism should read this thread. Interesting stuff Vlag.
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sharkbokCaptain23,285 posts
15 Apr 2015, 17:46
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15 Apr 2015, 17:46#12

Has anyone here ever been to Port St Johns in South Africa?  It is like the place where time has stood still, where the town is still in the 1930's. It was a town that could have become another Durban- before 1994.
However I think it was given to the Transki during Apartheid.
The town Hotel is half burnt down and it has never been fixed.The shops have paintings of Jazz music on the windows from the 1920's/
Their has been no attempt to repair the town, and it just continues to slide.The tar roads are all gone, and it is just dust roads now. 
Unless things change, Durban is may go the way of St Johns. I dont know why so many Criminals hang out at Point Street. Who exactly is their to steal from.


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clevermikeCoach57,555 posts
15 Apr 2015, 17:48
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15 Apr 2015, 17:48#13
 Problem is - the Municipalities listed have all been wealthy in the past and has been bled dry by thieving incompetents - both by Councillors and staff.
Let me tell you how the lot operates.  In 2000 I was often required to deal with visiting delegations from other Municipalities and was given an entertainment grant of R10 000 for the purpose.   Not much because we had to deal with about 3 to 4 such delegations per month.   So one of the delegations let by a Mayor and his deputy - as well as two senior admin staff turned up and after the meeting I took the delegation to the Zimbali Lodge for lunch after making a booking two days in advance.
Two things happened which was of interest.  Zimbali is a gated estate and when we got to the entrance they security personnel phoned the hotel and they said the restaurant is fully book for lunch.  I absolutely refused that and insisted on being admitted.   We turned up at the restaurant and it was empty - we were the only people there.   Half an hour later Harry Oppenheimer and his wife and another couple turned up  and the restaurant had only two tables occupied.  Harry died about three weeks later.
However, what irked me was the conduct of the Mayor.  I asked them not to order wine because it was exceptionally expensive and suggested that we rather had different drinks.   The bloody bastard ordered a bottle of wine at a price of R1 600.  I was mad as hell and felt I could not claim that money back from the Municipality and had to pay for the lunch from my own account.   Years later the Mayor was fired because of grand larceny and the Municipality he was with was put under administration afterwards.    
Most of the 20 municipalities listed are in the same category and I think that they would soon be run by Government representatives - I am still on the Government reserve list of ex senior officials to be called up for such a purpose and am expecting  a call-up soon.   Would not accept such a call-up for less than R800 000 a year plus allowances to cover accommodation and travelling.
     
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CeradynePro9,374 posts
15 Apr 2015, 18:37
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15 Apr 2015, 18:37#14
 
Was that when you were still in cahoots with the clowns or was it after your eyes opened?
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clevermikeCoach57,555 posts
15 Apr 2015, 20:45
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15 Apr 2015, 20:45#15
 That village idiot has nothing to do with you.  What I tried to illustrate by the example was way over your head - the fact that the Municipalities got drained by the politicos and crooks running them to the extent that they cannot pay their accounts - while the lot ruining them cleaned them out.    
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CeradynePro9,374 posts
15 Apr 2015, 21:09
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15 Apr 2015, 21:09#16
 It was not over my head at all ou p@epol. What has happened was always on the table and was always going to happen. You were just too stupid to realise it, which is why you joined them. Or did you join them to protect your job? 
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clevermikeCoach57,555 posts
15 Apr 2015, 21:34
#17
15 Apr 2015, 21:34#17
 The second guess applies in that case and at least I am honest about it.  However, I never allowed politics to interfere in the job I was doing - and the Councillors new that as well.   Fact is the one question asked by the ANC Mayor one day was "What would you do if a Councillor asked you directly to approve something?"  My answer was - "I do not know any Councillor brave enough to do that".  He burst out laughing and that was the end of the interview.      
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CeradynePro9,374 posts
15 Apr 2015, 21:40
#18
15 Apr 2015, 21:40#18
 So you did indeed sell your soul to the devil.................? 
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clevermikeCoach57,555 posts
15 Apr 2015, 21:56
#19
15 Apr 2015, 21:56#19
 Balls 
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