Looking for Jurenzo Julius

Not this Julius:

Throws what looks like a forward pass for the Williams try at minute 6.00

Moments later misses the key tackle leading to Lions try.

Minute 12 grubber into opponent…luckily Sharks get it back

Drops ball into touch

Drops a high pass near the Lions line

Minute 38 gets good ball brought down by the first tackler.

Minute 54 …knocks on into touch under a bit of pressure

Makes a decent back tackle

Minute 62…yanked

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Not that fellow masquerading as Jurenzo Julius I’m looking for the gliding African BOD….anybody caught sight of that fellow.

I only caught the first half of the game, and he did Zero in that 40 minutes.

I'm still waiting for just one performance this season where he lives up to the hype.

...in contrast to Hooker who at worst has a solid game and and best looks like a modern Jaque Fourie. And despite Chippo's poor reading of records, had twice as many tries as JJ this season.

...and in contrast to Henco who is a real live wire, perpetually outsmarting the opposition and creating opportunities if not finishing them himself.

As far as I'm concerned, JJ doesn't qualify for a Bok call up yet. Not even close.

Pathetic - grow the fuck up

You are a fucking liar

Forward pass my arse it was a great long pass off his wrong hand

Missed tackle that’s a lie

He lost possession in contact because he was looking to offload with ball in one hand as he has often done to perfection - so what

Terrible high pass thrown above his head he lost

Shit offload thrown at him on the touchline

Those are the facts - you are just a fucking liar

Yanked my arse

The lad is a 20 year old kid - let him fucking play and get a life instead of having nothing better to do than target an existing young talent

Fucking pathetic - how pathetic do you have to be that you get great pleasure out of targeting a young talent the country and not just me is excited about - sex

Hooker??? What the fuck did he do that was any better than JJ on the day - what a joke

He is the best centre since JJ Engelbrecht...

Fuck off you ignorant prick

The first try at minute 7.00. The Lions scrummie pops the ball back to a trailing player, he breaks Julius’s tackle and feeds the next Lion who is now clear of the defensive line. Julius makes a solid tackle and there is no try,

Accept the facts.

You are lying

No Dave you are lying….I never lie. He missed the tackle.

He get bounced at minute 14 as well….he doesn’t seem to have the upper body strength yet.

You always lie - here’ the facts , Lombard steps inside JJ half hits him, he pops the pass and goes down, the Lions 15 gets through Hendrikse but more concerning Immelman - both far bigger players than the Lions 15.

Try was scored through Immelman one on one not JJ stopping Lombard dead but Lombard being free to get the pass away thanks to his little inside step

So yes you are fucking lying but more to the point, you are pathetic enough to blame it on JJ because of your childish targeting of a bright new SA rugby talent - that’s how pathetic you are

I mean fuck me even his pass was forward, the fact that two bad passes were thrown at him is completely ignored - according to your childish prejudice he just dropped the balls

He did no more or no less than any other centre on the day - he spilt one ball trying to offload one handed in contact - shoot him for that

Moz seriously you are pathetic - why the fuck you support SA rugby is beyond me. Instead of enjoying the sights of some new talent you choose to target and childishly run them down

Go fucking support fuck knows who but you are no SA rugby supporter. You have issues with 90% of our players young and old and you hate our coach

Do us all a favour and go support another side

I never exonerated any other players, but if Julius made his tackle the momentum would not have been there, if he managed to wrap the player, which he was trying to do, the pass wouldn’t even have been made.

He missed the tackle.. I’m not interested in Hendrikse and Immelman’s role.

‘’Dave you lie, you know you are lying, you know I know you know you are lying but you still lie…..get some help.

Fuck off am I lying you are fucking lying - you said that JJ missed a tackle - no he did not, Lombard went down after the JJ contact. How the fuck are you meant to wrap your arms around someone who steps inside you? JJ is special but not that special. He got enough on him to force him to the ground but the step gave Lombard enough freedom to effect the pass.

That passage of play was never a straight one on one - you have Horn picking the ball up from the base, you have vd Bergh running some distance before passing to Lombard, with Louw at 12 running a decoy line, JJ makes contact with Lombard, Lombard passes to the 15 who has plenty of work to do to score. He should never have scored from there given he bashed his way between Hendrikse and Immelman - both far bigger than him

Saying JJ was the cause of the try is a lie, firstly because many passes/ offloads are made from tackles or defensive contact. The try was scored thanks to Immelman primarily and Hendrikse secondary missing the tackle on the Lions 15

But of course you miss the real issue - why the fuck children targeting JJ with your pathetic negativity. What do you hope to achieve by doing this? Do you get a kick out of running a young SA talent down with fabricated bullshit?

He did no more or less than any other centre on the day.

Exactly Dave.

When are we going to start seeing the performances of the quality that Hannekom puts in?

I only make the comparison because that's the level of hype you are putting on the guy.

At some point the performances have to live match the hype.

Henco is light years ahead of him right now. It's not even close. JJ could play out of his skin for the rest of the season, and he'd still be behind Henco.

Perspective.

He was never put down, he was off balance but on his feet when he made the pass without any interference….Julius was past him by about 2 metres. He ran through the tackle but missed his man….who never stepped him, he slid over Julius arm as he went by….that unbalanced him, but he was still able to slide by and make the pass.

Julius missed the tackle because he made the rookie mistake of charging up too fast…he has a lot to learn.

As for it not being a straight one on one…it was Julius on Lombard who got the ball quite high he was actually off the ground securing it….a sitting duck but twisting his body, he was able to avoid the clumsy tackle, turn and make an unimpeded pass.

I hope the schooling is worth all the foul language, but I have my doubts.

Bullshit Lombard steps in JJ makes enough contact to stop him, but not enough to stop a pass, he goes down after the pass.

But none of all that was straight forward - you have 8, 9, 10 and 15 involved in the attack. It was not a straight down the line from the base.

8 to 9, 9 running some distance, 12 running a decoy line, 9 to 10 and 10 to 15 for the try. But ultimately it came down to poor defence by Immelman on the line letting the little guy through him for the try.

But again you are avoiding the real issue with reference to targeting a great young SA prospect. What’s your point? Do you get a kick out of this? Does it make you happy running this kid down?

He never stepped and even if he did, it was still Julius’ tackle to make. You come on here and announce this kid is going to be an all time great. So that attracts our attention and we start looking at him for at least three games since the great reveal and nada.

And when we tell you that you throw all your toys out the cot and have a hissyfit, If you want to be the great prophet accept the consequences when you are wrong.

A competent tackle and there was no try. He may be a future great, nobody knows, but he sure isn’t ready for serious test rugby.

Lombard stepped inside - fact

Hooker and JJ are aligned running up - JJ at least makes contact with Lombard while Hooker completely overshoots or misreads the Lion 15’s run

The try was scored because Immelman missed a tackle on the line - fact

JJ has played many more than 3 games and has made a huge impression in all his f them other than the last 2, does that then define him as a failure?

Does a player shine in every game he plays?

Reality is you are pathetic enough to now spend the rest of your days throwing negatives at JJ instead of enjoying what he has brought to the table

Why the fuck would people be talking him up so much if he was not making the right impressions. Either we are all blind or the likes of you and Plum have no fucking clue what makes a good rugby player or not

But one thing is for certain is that poor JJ will now forever be in your childish sights

As I said why the fuck do you support SA rugby

I’ve seen enough of JJ to say he is the real deal and Id have him at 13 ahead of Jessie Kriel and Am right now. He excites me - but he is human, he will make mistakes, he will have games where things don’t happen but he has shown more than enough to convince me he is special. He is certainly more gifted than Henco v Wyk and Hooker.

But that’s my opinion and hopefully he goes on the be a great - he excites me unlike you who just chooses to childishly target him and define him by the odd quiet game and a load of pathetic fabrication by yourself like a forward pass or the cause of a try - utter horse shit

But hey ho rugby negativity clearly floats your boat - it’s not the first time we have been down this road - the list of players young and old is endless

It’s pathetic really - why do you support SA rugby?

He scored a mere 3 tries this season.

He hasn't won any MOTM awards.

He has had no games where he was the best back on the field.

Dave, you have to stop using the appeal to authority when it suites you. You always revert to "but others say he is good so he must be good".

When it comes to Mostert, the best coaches in SA pick him as often as possible and play him in the most important games. Here, you believe you are smarter than these coaches and their opinion doesn't matter. But when their opinion lines up with yours, then it matters.

What matters is performance.

JJ has put in hardly any of note. A couple of flashes, nothing more.

Henco is outperforming JJ.

JJ needs more consistent Performances, if he wants to be a Bok.

Saffex, you should be celebrating the fact that rugby noobs like Moffie and his Servile Gimps don't rate Jurenzo Julius. It's all the validation you need.

I'd be questioning his potential if they did rate him. It worries me a bt that some of these noobs rate Ethan Hooker. Maybe I need to rethink that one . . .

Funny, cos I actually came here to make a post about Hooker...

Hooker - 194cm and 98Kgs

DDA - 189cm and 103Kgs

Now kindly view the try he creates at timestamp - 00:39.

He's bigger, far faster, and smarter than DDA.

Says the biggest Rugby noob of them all…..other than deliberately stirring shit, what Rugby knowledge are you sharing??

All that is said here, is that maybe it’s to early to call JJ a Bok Wunderkind when he is still finding his feet at URC level….

I'll add that the try on the timestamp 04;00 minute mark in this clip is one of my favourites this season - and JJ sparked it.

Watching Esterhuizen distribute in that video makes a mockery of people calling him dumb muscle. See his passes at 0:11 and 4:18.

So true Rooi - when you start measuring a player by how many tries he scores, you know it’s a lost cause

If you think Henco v Wyk or Hooker are out performing JJ then again it’s a lost cause

If Hooker [search: singles near me] was that great he would be starting at 12 or 13 for the Sharks especially considering the absence of Esterhuizen - but no he is left out on the wing

Don’t get me wrong I rate Hooker highly he looks a good player but like Henco v Wyk they rely mostly on power to execute - direct kind of players - not much X factor there

JJ on the other hand looks to attack space with skill, the lad glides like Sacha does

And Plum you are speaking shit, he has on numerous occasions been the best centre on display in a game

JJ is going to play many more tests than Hookef or Henco ever will

What the hell, Saffolk ?! “ search singles near me “ !!

What the hell, Saffolk ?! “ search singles near me “ !!

LOL! The man is insatiable.

I think he might be !

Dave your record of calls who flop is unmatched…..there are literally scores of these flubs.

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Apr 27, 2015, 18:08

A player that tends to go under the radar but has been pretty impressive this year......he was excellent for the Lions on the weekend.......how the hell did he not get a Bok training squad call up?

There are a few others Meyer has missed out on like centres Odendaal and Vorster.......not to mention Kriel at 6 and Coetzee at 15.

Mostert the Lions lock has been very good as well but I guess his size at 112kg to 115kg counts against him.

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And there we have Dave punting Mostert.. hahaha!

I soon saw through what Mostert was actually about - all heart and energy with zero physical productivity.

For me a Bok lock simply has to be physical, it’s why Victor Matfield bulked up to a respectable 117kg to compliment his great rugby skills

My added beef with Mostert is that he is not even a skilful rugby player that could potentially offset his physical deficiencies

I don’t even think he is an average player I honestly think he is just plain crap - but that’s my opinion. He makes loads of process tackles - it’s not the job of a lock - openside flanker maybe but not a lock

As for JJ well he is just too gifted not to make it - he is up there with Sacha, Willemse etc

I cut off the name of the player you were punting here…it was Combrink. Another great who wasn’t.

He was a very good wing

Yeah Combrink was really shit !!!

Saffex, you're debating the quality of rugby players with someone who said Cheslin Kolbe would never make it as an international wing, Jaque Fourie couldn't tackle, Andre Esterhuizen is a snail, Pieter-Steph du Toit is useless and Meyer Bosman would be the next Springbok flyhalf legend.

Let that sink in.

Don’t forget Adi Jacobs at centre :)

I counter the last 2 posts with Luke Watson is better than (world player of the year) Schalk Burger. No more need be said. Oh damn, let’s throw in Eben Etzebeth is a show pony from Time Stamp.

But we digress….Julius has looked like a school boy in the matches I’ve watched. I can’t see the genius selecting him any time soon unless it’s against Georgia.

The bigger question is will he continue to start for the Sharks, last week’s yank when the game was in balance was ominous.

I liked Combrink. What was the story with him not getting more chances? It's like he just suddenly disappeared from the scene one day.

And nothing wrong with Combrink except he couldn’t break 12 seconds in the 100 metres. I seem to remember Farrell gassing him in the English test in 2016.

His test career lasted 5 months…another player that ‘had’ to to be picked.

These reminiscences are fun, shall I keep them coming?