Looking for Jurenzo Julius

JJ looks like a school boy kind of sums your rugby stupidity up

Case closed

Commentary from that game:

Daly kicked towards the visitors’ 22. The wing Ruan Combrinck made a mess of securing possession before flicking a pass along the ground to Willie le Roux, who failed to grasp hold of it. Brown hacked on and when he missed the ball with his hands as he tried to dive on it near the line, Lawes was on hand to touch down.

And this classic:

Youngs still had a trick in his hand. Every time he received the ball, he looked to see where the hapless Du Toit was, aware of the forward’s large turning circle. The scrum-half spotted him neither guarding nor marking the first receiver and glided through a gap that should not have been there to set up Farrell, whose conversion gave the centre a match total of 19 points.

Off to golf…..that should be a bit more challenging.

Another lie about a player - Combrink was slow was he? Either you are blind watching his highlights video or you are stupid enough to lie about his pace

Combrink had a long lay off with injury and never made it back after that

He was a quality player

Moz why the fuck do you bother supporting SA rugby? Serious question

"Moz why the fuck do you bother supporting SA rugby?"

What on earth makes you think Moffie supports the Springboks? Weren't you on the board during the last RWC?

Every win by Rassie's Springboks was like a dagger in Moffie;s heart . . . and those 1 point wins in the knockouts were especially painfully for the pompous old fop.

PSdT being named World Player of the Year a few weeks later was the last straw that sent him over the edge . . . which is why he comes on here day after day and week after week trying his best to denigrate the Springboks fantastic achievement while pretending that he hasn't got egg all over his stupid fat face.

LMAO!

He slates the majority of our players old and new and he hates our coach

I get so much enjoyment watching our players, love seeing new talent coming through - it’s why I watch and love the game

Moz sits there and throws negatives at the players and the coach. How the fuck do you enjoy or gain any pleasure in slating the majority of what makes SA rugby rock

Fuck me we have the best coach ever, the best side ever and a host of exciting new talent coming through and all Moz can do is bitch and moan about it all.

Its all a bit sadistic - must be fucking depressing being so negative about SA rugby all the time

What’s the fucking point?

Springbok rugby is in the healthiest state it's been in for about 70 years . . . but Moffie hasn't stopped bitching and whining about all the players he hates and the coach that he hates.

Why would you think this jaundiced old relic supports South Africa or the Springboks?

He professes to be a supporter, I’m asking why he bothers given all the negativity he throws at our sides at all levels

How does he derive any pleasure from watching with a view to targeting players and worst of all ignorantly discrediting the best coach the Boks have ever had

"How does he derive any pleasure from watching . . ."

That's my point. He doesn't.

A biased and self-important rugby noob.

Strange concept watching a sport and hating on most of what you see and the guy pulling the strings

Rugby to me is the polar opposite to what Moz gains from it

Nothing more exciting than seeing the likes of a Roos, Hanekom, Arendse, Moodie, Willemse, Sacha or Jurenzo Julius break onto the scene

Hahaha….while the cat’s away….is that the best you could come up with, the same old whines. Totally hypocritical because both of you were in exactly the same place about Jake. This is the field you both plowed.

For someone that hates Bok rugby, Moz sure does watch a lot of it.

I've yet to make a match thread where he doesn't pop up.

Lol Rooi you and I were both in camp "Eben needs to pull finger and stop living on rep."

...and during Coetzee's time, I was in an even worse camp. While the Boks were losing to Los Pumas, the Lions were thumping the Jags by 40 points. My simple conclusion was, take that entire Lions side and make them Boks. They were obviously a far superior side to the Boks with an almost unbeatable gameplan.

Of course, looking back now, most of those players faded into obscurity and the Boks suffered Coetzee until fans were on the verge of rioting.

Anyhoos, I pulled up some cricket posts recently where Dave was certain Markram was excellent and should remain in the Proteas.

Let's not talk about crystal balls, because everybody's lets them down.

And indeed, this all takes focus away from the man of the hour.

I can see why he is being hyped. It's clear that he has skill. It would be nice to have a Bok nicknamed the Boogeyman. I wanna buy it all. I want Dave to be right. I want JJ to start being as effective as Henco.

...but, for now, the price ain't right. I would never buy one of those still-under-construction properties. Not until the plaster is at least going onto the walls.

Julius is just past foundation stages at this point.

JJ is better and more effective than Henco when it comes to what will work at test level

He is ready for test rugby now, just like Sacha, Pollard, Frans Steyn and Willemse were at the same age

Id have him as my Bok 13 ahead of Jessie or Am right now

I’d like to see more of Moodie at 13 as well, he excites me more than Henco does

Direct less creative players like Henco don’t excite me as much - they are easy to defend against at test level

Assertions, assertions….that missed tackle won’t fly with the genius. The kid needs to show he can compete against the adults.

Well for a start Rassie is not stupid enough to define JJ’s contact as a missed tackle only a prejudicial fool with a childish agenda would make that call

Fuck me regardless of that imagine being stupid enough to think players never miss tackles - even the great de Allende or PSDT miss tackles

You mean like the tackles the great Dud never made on Nonu and Mo’unga…..no Julius’ miss wasn’t as bad as that, at least he made contact and it wasn’t in a WC knockout.

The child here is you Dave….going gaga on any new player he thinks he spotted first. That’s led to abysmal record over hyping nothing burgers.

Grow up.

Fresh coming from you who childishly takes great pleasure in watching a game involving SA players with the sole purpose of extracting as much negative as possible from those players and if the coach happens to be Rassie then of course he gets childishly targeted as well.

But best of all is you are beyond realising how much you embarrass yourself on the topics of our awesome coach and two time world player of the year

As for JJ’s so called missed tackle - if you knew anything about rugby you would know that a missed tackle sees the attacker continue his attack and not land on his hands and knees

Our awesome coach whose idea of a backline attack is a box kick and who just happened to encounter the weakest Oz and NZ teams since readmission with the best Bok talent pool we have ever had.

And despite those advantages needed Pollard to be perfect and NZ to get a red card, just to win by a point.

Spare me the BS.

As for the tackle Julius missed….Julius made contact with Lombard and then slipped off him, Lombard was entirely free of the tackler when he passed the ball. A missed tackle.

There we go - childishly on queue - so Rassie has been facing the worst Oz and NZ sides since readmission - that’s a complete lie as always. Oz potentially but certainly not NZ

I see you conveniently fail to mention that Rassie has faced the best French, Irish, Scottish and Argentinian sides ever

I see you are still stupid enough to not comprehend the impact of not having a specialist hooker for 78 min - shock, shock

Lombard went nowhere after the contact by JJ other than flat on his knees - missed tackle my arse - you don’t even know the basics of rugby - shock, shock

You have failed to mention how shit most of the SA players are

And none of the French, Irish, Scottish or Argentinian sides have won a WC. What does it matter if Argentina is better, they are never going to win a WC. Oz has…..on 3 different occasions. Having them fall out of the mix makes it much easier.

As for the ABs…what generation of AB was worse. Maybe the 2003 team, but they beat us quite easily..

As for the rest of that rubbish it’s all been discredited. Stop lying, stop swearing, stop insulting your fellow posters and debate like a gentleman.

The purpose of the board is to debate points of view not insult those who disagree with you. It’s getting very tedious. If there was just a hint of humor it might be more acceptable….but there’s none, just red faced hissyfits

Your pathetic anti SA players is beyond tiresome - you are an insult to SA rugby supporters

Winning a WC is not the sole measure of a side you fool fuck me

You ignorantly bang on about the Boks playing the worst Oz side but fail to acknowledge that the French, Irish, Scottish and Argentinians are the best they have ever been - throwing your pathetic theory, that the current Boks are facing weaker opposition, right out the window - shock, shock

You don’t fucking debate rugby, your sole purpose on here is to attack our players and awesome coach

Do us a favour and go fucking support another side as you are not a SA rugby supporter

More of the same….classless ranting

Beats the hell out of targeting the majority of our players and our awesome coach

I support SA rugby, do you?

You support win at all costs, game the refs, kick the leather off the ball….celebrate opposition red cards.

I absolutely want the Boks to win…but I want them to be what the ABs have been and still are to fans around the world, the team that exemplifies rugby played at it’s best.

With the explosion of talent now available we should be evolving into that team. We aren’t, our backline play relies on individual brilliance, our passing game is 3rd tier. We win because we have the most physical athletes on the planet.

We can be much, much better.

"I absolutely want the Boks to win…"

Waaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaahahahahahahaha!!!

Yeah right!

Stop being such a stinking liar, Moffie.You've been willing Rassie's Springboks to lose every game they've ever played. Don't deny it.

That’s exactly how your mind worked when Jake was the coach, I’m perfectly capable of not enjoying our current coach, but still fully supporting the Boks. Every time you open your mouth you expose your rotten self.

This notion that we don’t play the best rugby is the biggest load of shit ever as is us kicking the leather off the ball - that’s simply not true - far from it in fact

We would not have wings with the best strike rates in the game if we did not play it wide

We score more tries, make more clean breaks, beat more defenders than most sides

The only time we played it conservatively was post COVID as we had spent no time together

Game the refs, huh? Celebrate red cards - that’s another lie

You take on Bok rugby is far from reality

This is what Time Stamp said:

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Oct 30, 2023, 15:50

Before the RWC started I said words to the effect that I consider Rassie to be a crybaby, a bungling fool with a big ego and lacking the courage or ambition to play attacking and exciting rugby.

During the RWC I said that Rassie made some incredibly stupid and shortsighted decisions and I complained bitterly about the mindless kick-and-hope game plan.

Now it's after the World Cup is over and we have defended our title successfully and become the first team to win 4 titles.

I still find it hard to forgive Rassie for his embarrassing crybaby behaviour during the British Lions tour, I still think he lacks the courage or ambition to play attacking and exciting running rugby. I do believe he had the biggest and best pool of talent to choose from and nearly botched it and I still dislike his insatiable need to control everything . . . but (and this is a big "but") . . . I also said before the tournament started that if he won it, I would call him a rugby genius and that is what inspires this post.

…..

Sounds pretty much exactly what I said….Time Stamp goes on to praise Luckmus’ motivational skills and execution. But the trouble is he came to the above conclusion after Luckmus had coached the Boks more than 60 times.

That’s what he really believed before he felt the need go with the mob, a classical weak man response.

But he was right for once, Luckmus was a bumbling cry baby who lacked ambition and nearly bungled the WC.

So Moz do you think Jake is better than Rassie?

We’ll never know, he was sabotaged by the Union he is working for today. But here are some numbers:

Jake with 1 WC was 36 and 17

‘After 4 years and 1WC….the equivalent to Jake….Rusmus was 34 and 18.

Food for thought.

I really don't get the Jake hate.

All the while Plumtree's Sharks have underperformed so often, being absolutely hammered on occasion, while often having more Boks on the field than non-Boks.

Yet, Jake's side is doing better than anybody else's, but he takes all the flack.

Plumtree and Dobson are shit as well

Still looking…

I' guess he must be wearing camo because I've searched everywhere too and there are zero signs of the guy Dave has described.

Could it be that JJ is somewhere, but it's not the JJ we have been told about.

What I did see him do yesterday when Mapimpi was tracking back for a a ball, was to start jogging back. Then Mapimpi got in a bit of trouble with the pickup and suddenly JJ started sprinting again, getting there too late to be of any assistance.

A real bad mistake because Mapimpi was always going to be under pressure and even if there is only a 10% chance that Mapimpi might need help, you make sure you are back there to help him. He didn't, and the Zebs got a try for their troubles.

Moz that will because your eyes are fucked and you are just childish. Clever inside support line to score that try - rugby brains - then never got the ball for the rest of the game - hardly

Plum I see your man Hooker can’t even catch a ball passed straight to him? But I’m not sad and pathetic enough to target our youngsters and throw unmerited shit at them. If you are going to be pathetic enough to target a player then you better hope the one you tout delivers the goods. Unfortunately Hooker flopped again but he is better than that but like JJ got fuck all opportunities as the Sharks were pretty shit on the day - not a single backline movement all game

Fucking pathetic joke the pair of you

Plum, don't get me started on Plumtree or the Saarks.

They gave so much talent and had so much that they just discarded.

I'm not even sure which union is the best at the moment or if we have any decent coaches in SA.

I thought Dobbo was up there but maybe they got lucky with COVID and other teams felt financial pressure. The Stormers are getting worse every season. The lions can't seem to get out of first gear.

Bools have so much talent.

So Ja, I thought we be topping all 4 spots of the table by now.

Maybe we don't have so many great professionals that can do the job.

I think we are lucky with Rassie that seams to get the best out of these players. Just wish our coaches could create a similar environment

I am not so sure that Jordan is the anwser at 10…..

he is to erratic sometimes where he needs to be calmer to make the right decision. Libbok is not much better either.

Our back up 10,s is not that solid. Jurie Mathee is my opinion better.

JJ is suppose to create opportunities to score , not wait for his team mates to provide.

Like Mapimpi Setting him up with nice and easy run in try. Where is the magic and glide gone?

Our franchises should be doing a bit better I would say….the biggest problem is keeping up the good performances .

He can’t create if he does not get the ball you fucking idiot

Excuses, excuses….he should get More involved in the game to get hold of the ball more….ATM he is not the player you make him out to be…

And insults from a lunatic like you, won’t prove your points better. You are tedious and strenuous like a baby with a wet panty…