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Mallett on the uncontested scrums

Started by Mozart7 REPLIES430 VIEWS· 25 Jul 2015, 23:07
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MozartCaptain49,914 posts
25 Jul 2015, 23:07
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25 Jul 2015, 23:07#1
‘I must ask a question … We had to substitute a player for blood, the new player [Trevor Nyakane] has played a number of games at tighthead [prop] for his Super Rugby team, the Bulls … So explain to me how he [the referee] can decide it’s uncontested scrums. Trevor Nyakane has played a number of games there and he’s comfortable in that position. We were playing against seven forwards, and could have put them under severe pressure, but the referee took away that weapon … Just because he covers loosehead doesn’t mean he isn’t capable of playing at tighthead. It’s only if he’s technically incapable of playing in that position that you’d go to uncontested scrums.'

Seems there is a lot of confusion about the rule. Fitzpatrick asked the same question on Sky.

My question is why Koch couldn't be patched up and sent back and why we couldn't designate a player for two positions on the team sheet. Don't get shirty, I'm looking for real answers.
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BlikkiesPro1,526 posts
25 Jul 2015, 23:12
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25 Jul 2015, 23:12#2

Well moz, Meyer said that the law stipulates that only players listed on the team sheet are allowed to play in those positions. That is the law and he or Schalk could do nothing.

 

MO
MozartCaptain49,914 posts
25 Jul 2015, 23:15
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25 Jul 2015, 23:15#3
I saw that Blikkies, but it's obvious that neither Skinstad, Fitzpartick or Mallett knew the rule. Still wonder why Koch couldn't have been blood binned and brought back.  
SA
Saffolk Captain30,741 posts
25 Jul 2015, 23:16
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25 Jul 2015, 23:16#4
I think Koch had more of an injury than the head wound as they mentioned he had been attended to twice before he left the field.
Sas maintains that the rule is that if the designated tighthead replacement gets injured and the starting tighthead can't come back on its uncontested scrums regardless of whether one of the loose heads can plan tighthead.....seems like a stupid rule....that hopefully this test will have highlighted as a rule that needs changing 
MO
MozartCaptain49,914 posts
25 Jul 2015, 23:43
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25 Jul 2015, 23:43#5

This from Simon Borchardt a pretty thoughtful guy:

 

 

Uncontested scrums should not take place with six fit front-rowers on the field
With Sam Whitelock having been yellow-carded in the 59th minute, the Boks would have hoped to make their one-man advantage count at scrum time. Except they couldn't, as French referee Jérôme Garcès ruled uncontested scrums. It was a strange decision, as while the Boks had replaced tighthead prop Jannie du Plessis at the start of the second half with Vincent Koch, who later left the field because of a head gash, they still had Trevor Nyakane on the field, who can play both loosehead and tighthead. Nyakane was not a designated tighthead for this match – so Garcès was technically correct in his decision – but with six fit front-rowers on the field, common sense should have prevailed. Instead, the Boks lost the opportunity to dominate a seven-man All Blacks scrum. 

 

 

Borchardt makes it sound more like the rule is that a competent tighthead has to be available....rather than the coaching take that he has to be designated.  

 

 

Maybe he is wrong, but the inability to continue scrumming was very frustrating. Compounded by Strauss coming on it was a double whammy.

AJ
Arthur JohnPro1,748 posts
25 Jul 2015, 23:45
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25 Jul 2015, 23:45#6
 Agreed Koch should have been brought back onto the field.
Also the rule that you are stating has to be amended.....it makes no sense to have such laws in test rugby.

SA
Saffolk Captain30,741 posts
26 Jul 2015, 00:13
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26 Jul 2015, 00:13#7
 Koch must have been injured 
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WardadPro6,663 posts
26 Jul 2015, 02:34
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26 Jul 2015, 02:34#8
 As I understand it the ref has no leeway at all , the 2 nominated tight heads are the only ones allowed in that position .Its a safety issue that has more to do with injuries in lower grades of rugby .Nyakane has played tight head in 3 tests ? Or was that S15 ? 
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