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Marcell Coetzee looks to be out of RWC!

Started by Beeno118 REPLIES785 VIEWS· 10 Aug 2015, 20:05
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Beeno1Captain40,032 posts
10 Aug 2015, 20:05
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10 Aug 2015, 20:05#1
This brilliant player will be missed! Ex Supersport

Jean de Villiers’ chances of leading the Springboks in the 2015 Rugby World Cup will be determined by specialist opinions he will receive over the next 24 hours on the timeline for his recovery from the fractured jaw he suffered against Argentina in Durban.

Team doctor Craig Roberts said early on Monday that although De Villiers’ knee had stood up well to his first 80 minute performance since his operation at the end of last year, his jaw injury was serious enough to keep him out of taking contact for a significant period.

With De Villiers boasting so little game time this year, that should obviously be a concern for Springbok coach Heyeneke Meyer, who has said already that he can’t afford to take too many players who are bracketed because of injury concerns to the World Cup. While De Villiers’ situation isn’t quite as concerning as that of flanker Marcell Coetzee, who now looks an unlikely starter at the World Cup because of his knee injury, the specialist opinions on when he can return to full training are going to be crucial.

The initial prognosis was that De Villiers would take four to six weeks to fully recover from his jaw fracture. Roberts said the Boks would be hoping it was closer to four as De Villiers has been out for a long time and if he can’t get game time as such he would at least require some extensive contact sessions to be able to travel to the World Cup with confidence.

“The World Cup is close at hand now so when there are six week injuries now I do start getting a bit nervous,” said Roberts.

“On Jean, we have to wait for the opinion of specialists. We have some excellent facial specialists that we’ve already consulted but there are some that we will be consulting today. So far it has been quite positive. The problem is we want to give Jean game time.”

The squad departs for England in four weeks from this coming Friday, so clearly there is now a race against time for those who are injured.

“Those are questions that have to be dealt with by the coach, but obviously when it would become difficult if you are starting to think about bracketing four or five players,” said Roberts.

The doctor said that the positive aspect of the De Villiers injury was that he would be able to continue with his conditioning and rehabilitation.

“Jean has a swollen face at the moment and has difficulty chewing. The good thing is that while we have to keep him out of contact for the four to six week period, he can take a full part in conditioning training and we can still progress with the rehab on his knee,” he said.

It is early days to say for certain what chances Marcell has of making the World Cup, but with his kind of injury it is normally a six week time-frame in terms of being able to return to the playing field. Marcell is the injured player we are most concerned about at this point.”

Fullback Willie le Roux has also been ruled out of the Buenos Aires return against the Pumas after going over on his ankle early in the Kings Park game against those opponents.

“Willie is sore and stiff and won’t play this week but his is not a long term injury,” said Roberts.

Le Roux has played every match the Boks have played so far this year, and his absence will give the back-up fullback Patrick Lambie the chance to have a proper run. That of course is if coach Heyneke Meyer is happy to continue with Handre Pollard as his starting flyhalf after his nightmare performance in Durban.

According to Roberts, big blindside flanker Willem Alberts will definitely return to the selection frame this week, and the chances are good that Victor Matfield will also be back after suffering a hamstring strain against the Wallabies in Brisbane at the start of the Championship.

© supersport.com
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CleanCutPro9,905 posts
10 Aug 2015, 20:15
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10 Aug 2015, 20:15#2
 
Not a player I would have selected anyway.

We have better options at 7.

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Beeno1Captain40,032 posts
10 Aug 2015, 20:38
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10 Aug 2015, 20:38#3
 Marcell at 6, Burger at 8 and Vermuelen at 7.  Now that oaks is great loose trio. Each guy is a 80 minute warrior. Burger has the skillset needed at 8. MAde bent Read look like a rank amateur!Of course there are other very good loosies as well CC
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DbDraadCaptain26,388 posts
10 Aug 2015, 21:26
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10 Aug 2015, 21:26#4
 Now Beenz,  why play Burger at 8 and Thormeulen at 7?  Surely that was a typo? 
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DbDraadCaptain26,388 posts
10 Aug 2015, 21:30
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10 Aug 2015, 21:30#5
Oops! 
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Beeno1Captain40,032 posts
10 Aug 2015, 21:34
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10 Aug 2015, 21:34#6
 Draad Burger links with the backline and has more pace. Vermue len used to play 7 and did very well there.

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DbDraadCaptain26,388 posts
10 Aug 2015, 21:41
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10 Aug 2015, 21:41#7
 Beenz,  Vermeulen is the best 8 in the game.  The link game of Schalla works well on 7 as well. There are more to playing 8 than what some might think. Duane reads the game better and instinctively knows when to fall back and either receives a counter kick or support the receiver. We missed him more than any of the other injured players. 
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MozartCaptain49,914 posts
10 Aug 2015, 21:58
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10 Aug 2015, 21:58#8
Sorry for him, it must be very tough to end your WC dreams in that way. But in truth I have to agree with CC. He provides lots of energy, but nothing really exceptional in terms of power or skill. He really needs to be a fetcher, given he isnt a runner or a lineout option...but even though he made a few fetches occasionally, he is miles from being a Poclock or a Hooper.  
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MozartCaptain49,914 posts
10 Aug 2015, 22:00
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10 Aug 2015, 22:00#9
I am a huge Schalk fan, but he isn't technically in the same league as Vermeulen at number8.  
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Saffolk Captain30,741 posts
10 Aug 2015, 22:13
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10 Aug 2015, 22:13#10
 Geez Moz you do speak crap when it comes to Coetzee.
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MozartCaptain49,914 posts
10 Aug 2015, 23:15
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10 Aug 2015, 23:15#11
No I'm perfectly objective...I like the kid, he's just not top drawer. If we can't find better loosies we will never win the big games.
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DezertFoxPro2,288 posts
10 Aug 2015, 23:52
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10 Aug 2015, 23:52#12
I think he has come a long way since his time under Jake, and would have been useful to at least have been available in the wider squad. Interesting comments Beeno, Schalk is a new man these days and I finally get to see him at 8 after eight years! 
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oimateyPro1,870 posts
11 Aug 2015, 00:15
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11 Aug 2015, 00:15#13
Tough news, really hurts our depth. Thought the kid was having his best test series this RC.

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clevermikeCoach57,555 posts
11 Aug 2015, 02:57
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11 Aug 2015, 02:57#14
 Sorry about Coetzee - but the crap is endless.  Mozart is a joke and that remains the case again here.  He wants the low work rate Alberts - whose inactivity means that we have something like zero as a ball protector and recoverer in the team with a few ineffective carries averaging less than 1,8 meters a carry and on average missing more than 30%  of his attempted tackles .
Reason - Alberts is 31 so he must be better than anybody else in contention.   And he is a handy player because he is supposedly cancelling out the deficiencies of Matfield in the engine room, allowing Matfield to moonlight in the backline and organise the backline attacking play which he is so brilliant in doing.
This type of crap is constant on this site.     
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DezertFoxPro2,288 posts
11 Aug 2015, 03:11
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11 Aug 2015, 03:11#15
I lament the loss of Coetzee he would have added some much needed depth. 
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clevermikeCoach57,555 posts
11 Aug 2015, 04:11
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11 Aug 2015, 04:11#16
 DF
Entertaining fiction about Alberts described in the most flowery language imaginable.  
His presence at the breakdown is very rare and so is his carries and his defense is torrid most of the time (he missed far too many tackles) - so some real fiction given as facts.    
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MonsterBokClub Pro442 posts
11 Aug 2015, 05:48
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11 Aug 2015, 05:48#17
My back row would be Jaco Kriel at 6, PSDT at 7 and Duane at 8. Burger as an impact player off the bench.  
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clevermikeCoach57,555 posts
11 Aug 2015, 08:24
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11 Aug 2015, 08:24#18
 Monsterbok
Very near the mark - it would solve a lot of line-out problems as well.   If they then get rid of the physically-deficient and low work rate Matfield our forward combination may just be strong enough in the WC.    
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Saffolk Captain30,741 posts
11 Aug 2015, 16:06
#19
11 Aug 2015, 16:06#19
Coetzee has been better than most of the loosies we have had in years.....one of the few standouts we have had in the past two years or so  
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