Note the date…..you will see I know exactly how to abbreviate ‘you are’. As if that was ever in doubt.
This was a dishonest attempt to turn a careless mistake into proof I never knew a basic English word. Disgusting, stubborn dishonesty
Schplottttt fat man…..down you go again.
Ah fuck off you pathetic prick, so because you are putting it down to a mistake, you think that somehow exonerates you huh? Note the date my arse there is evidence of you acknowledging your mistake you fucking idiot,
But if I made a grammatical or spelling mistake and put it down to a typo or typed in haste or typed while driving etc etc - you being the fucking low life that you are, would pick me up on the error, telling me how stupid I am - fuck you
You fucking lied you scumbag - you said you never lied, you pointed out an error of mine, I informed you Rooi had evidence of you making the same errors, you told me Rooi had no such evidence, we produced the evidence.
That evidence proves you are a fucking low life liar and that’s a fact.
I only evidence one example of your errors, I only needed one - there are loads of other examples
What it proves beyond a doubt is that you are both a fucking hypocrite and a liar - live with it scumbag
Case closed - and do us a favour moving forward - shut your fucking ignorant gob when it comes to spelling or grammatical errors committed on here, for you are the last fucking wanker to be pointing fingers at others on the subject - get it?
Can you imagine Davis selling Ice cream at a festival? " I don’t like that flavour so much, can I try something else please? "
" That’s the best Flavour in the World you Dumbfuck! And that’s a Fact! Now Fuck off, you Stupid Cunt ! "
I don’t sell ice cream to the public - I have staff to do that.
But I must admit that at the start I did once tell a customer to fuck off and go buy a softserve as they complained my ice cream was too rich and creamy
I made a careless mistake and unlike you I had the self confidence to simply admit it. You dishonestly tried to spin it into me needing to be schooled on the word by Rhonda. After you embarrassed yourself by squealing for her help.
And even after that I gave you the opportunity to simply draw a line under that spat, but you couldn’t help yourself. Once again you were too small to just do the manly thing, you went on like a teenage girl on Facebook.
So now you find yourself totally humiliated again, I used the word correctly way before I was supposedly schooled by Rhonda.
Enjoy your crow.
"Think harder...
It's very obvious and it will be pointed out to you.
Perhaps if you figure it out, though I really doubt you will, you could prepare.
It's gonna be funny.
I promise you, we're gonna laugh at you."
He didn't figure it out.
Moffie your inability to acknowledge the truth is evidence that you are a fucking stupid
But more to the point - you are both a hypocrite and a fucking LIAR
You gave me an opportunity to draw a line under this and move on did you?
Pity it was followed by this before I even had a chance to respond
‘Shame, he appears to be hurting. He’s gone all quiet ‘
You see Moffie you can’t help yourself - you don’t even know how fucking stupid you are and fuck me what a hypocrite
I gave you time to respond at 15.42 on Saturday. At 15.54 you immediately responded with another attack dog piece, two posts down. I left the offer open until 23.01 on Saturday and then made a mildly negative post.
A day later 12.38 you attack and I respond. You had every opportunity to respond positively….you only responded with vitriol
So stop lying and eat your crow
Fuck me you are beyond dumb
My response at 15:54 was to that fucking idiot Buttplug not you - wake the fuck up
You acknowledge making a mildly negative post
Given the circumstances do you think that lends itself to me responding in kind?
My conciliatory post was literally one post above Plum’s post and a long one, which undoubtedly you were anticipating. You chose to ignore it. Which is no surprise, nor is your attempt to lie your way out of it again.
Listen here fuckwit we have firmly established who the liar is here so take your baseless accusation and shove it up your arse
I never lied about anything - my response was to Buttplug
To be perfectly honest I actually did not read your post I saw wanker Buttplugs and responded to that
I stayed off the board as I was away this weekend and had recorded the URC games and did not want to see any comments relating to the games
That’s the truth believe it or not I don’t really care
On the contrary with Rhonda searching through Board history for evidence of him schooling me and/or my grammatical mistakes……you have actually established my credentials as a totally honest person.
You asked me if I had been schooled for grammar and poor spelling. I said I hadn’t. Now I have made over 47000 posts, many in haste, so not having a few careless mistakes out there would be a miracle.
But none of those mistakes indicate I didn’t know or misused the word. And certainly, you know I know how to spell ‘your’s’, proven by a post prior to that careless error, where it was written correctly.
Your argument is purely cynical, opportunistic and dishonest. But I give you the opportunity again, just accept what you already know that my English is perfectly serviceable and let’s move on.
My only terms are when you disagree with your fellow posters you don’t get abusive.
Wrong my issue with you is that you point out errors by posters, myself included and then proceed to call me stupid or illiterate for making them.
You make the same errors as evidenced, so you are not best placed to make judgement calls because that’s the height of hypocrisy.
Im not going to ever concede to terms on how I behave on here - it’s who I am. If you don’t like it, fuck off. The reality of this place is that we don’t really know each other on any meaningful level, it’s all superficial, surface stuff, so none of what is ever said really affects us.
You calling me fat, short, dumb etc means nothing to me for obvious reasons - you have not seen me for nearly 3 decades for a start and even if you had so what. I’m guessing we are all comfortable enough with who we are and how we are perceived by those that know us on levels that count.
Me calling you old, stupid etc hardly has you losing sleep at night now does it?
We are a strange bunch, well a small number of us anyway - we like a fight, it’s why law was the perfect career for me, until I got to the point of no longer wanting to fight other people’s battles.
The source of me being drawn to abuse posters is through sheer frustration. Frustration at how little some people know but mostly about how negative they are towards the sides achievements, the coach and so many of the players - one would swear we had won nothing and were ranked 8th, the way people carry on.
Yes people are free to have opinions but for me there is a limit to the amount of negativity and lack of positivity levelled at a side and coach that deserve so much more from this board.
None of this will change as the opinions are deep routed, so my source of frustration will continue to be fuelled.
Im neither dumb, short or fat, everybody loves Dave and I know I was a damn good solicitor who stuck it out for too long as owning one’s own business is something I should have done 10 years earlier. I know all this about me - what you or anyone else thinks of me on here is of zero significance to me. Just as I’m sure you feel about yourself and who you are and how you are received.
I’m happy to draw a line but there will be no terms as while I practiced law I have never been one to abide by the law. Rules are there to be broken.
So the logic is you get frustrated, because posters aren’t loyal enough. But you were in exactly in the same place about Jake White, HM, Luke Watson, vd Bergh, Adi Jacobs, Morne Steyn and others. And as I have said before it hinges on what you are loyal about. If it’s just winning, why weren’t you loyal to Jake White….he took us from QF 2003 failure to TN champs and 2007 WC winners.
One might also ask, what right do you have to play out your frustration in abuse of other posters. That implicitly assumes you are always right and they are wrong. That certainly is debateable.
I’m the last poster who can advocate for a milk toast Board where we all agree. I like the debate. But there have to be some limits otherwise we will for certain just repeat this latest Board explosion.
Beyond a certain point it’s a waste of time and inhibits constructive debate. Why not simply agree to disagree but stop short of abuse. What does abuse actually accomplish short of a brief, hard to understand, moment of satisfaction.
Why not aspire to the best sports chat site.
Wow, that was quite the self-portrait. You’ve managed to wrap hypocrisy, narcissism, and self-pity into one long justification for being an insufferable disrespectful Tosser…..Congrats, idiot!
You say “nothing said here affects us,” yet here you are, writing an emotional essay defending your own character to people who apparently “don’t matter.” That alone exposes how fragile your ego really is.
The “everyone loves Dave” line was pure comedy gold. You actually had to say it because deep down, you’re not convinced it’s true.
People who are genuinely liked don’t need to declare it, they show it through how they treat others.
You, on the other hand, spend your days trying to dominate conversations and insult strangers on a rugby board.
And that “rules are there to be broken” line? That’s not rebellious, it’s just the justification of a small man who can’t handle being wrong.
You hide behind the excuse of “frustration” as if it’s noble to be abusive because you care too much. It’s pathetic…..
You talk about being a solicitor who got tired of “fighting other people’s battles” funny, because now you fight imaginary ones on the internet just to feed your ego.
Maybe if you’d spent less time trying to prove how clever you were and more time actually respecting others, you wouldn’t feel the need to constantly remind everyone that you were “damn good” at your job.
You call it confidence, but it’s clear as day, it’s insecurity wearing a cheap coat of arrogance.
You’re not a free spirit breaking rules, you’re just a bitter man looking for relevance in a place where no one actually respects you!!
Wrong I never rated Jake highly and still don’t. He had a good record in his first two years and then lost the plot. I was a fan up to that point. He has a history of not being able to evolve past year 2 and it’s at this point his players see through him and see him for who he is. He is not great with people. Evidence the du Plessis brothers and the current Bulls squad.
His record leading up to that WC was awful. It’s a documented fact that he was on the verge of being sacked before the WC. Instead they brought in Eddie to save his arse. These are the facts about Jake.
But that’s beside the point
The source of my frustration is 100% justified as this Bok side and its achievements is the best in our history. A big reason for that is our coach, the best coach we have ever had. The board should be rejoicing in these facts but instead we get the polar opposite.
No where else do I see so much negativity levelled at an all conquering side and an amazing coach. Social media is filled with praise for the side and Rassie. Shit the opposition pundits are in awe of this Bok side - they wax lyrical about the team and Rassie - Biggar, Greenwood, Marshall, Goode, Jim Hamilton and a host of others
Are you implying I’m the only source of discontent on here?
"So the logic is you get frustrated, because posters aren’t loyal enough. But you were in exactly in the same place about Jake White"
...and the "solicitor" replies with...
"Wrong I never rated Jake highly and still don’t."
LMAO!
Fuck off you stupid cunt
I’m not implying anything, but I am inferring j from numerous exchanges that your escalation of tone is the root cause of the ugliness that so often is the terminus of any disagreement. Why not simply conduct an experiment and eliminate the four letter words and see if the remaining 50% of your vocabulary elicits the same response?
No I swear and have no issue with that - I’m certainly not going to entertain changing the way I communicate on here. Fuck me it’s been 20 plus years
This notion that swearing is somehow a reflection of an inability to express oneself or a lack of vocabulary is a load of shit - go tell that to Stephen Fry
Teachers and public speakers often discouraged swearing by saying it shows a lack of vocabulary. But research in linguistics and psychology (e.g., by Timothy Jay and Kristin Janschewitz) shows the opposite: frequent swearers actually tend to have larger vocabularies overall.
?? In other words, swearing isn’t a linguistic failure — it’s a stylistic or emotional choice.
4. Context and audience
Because swearing breaks social norms, its impact depends on where and to whom it’s used. Swearing in formal or mixed settings can be seen as careless or disrespectful.
?? So people sometimes label it “inarticulate” when what they really mean is “socially inappropriate for the context.”
5. Expression, not limitation
Modern linguistic studies show that swearing can actually enhance expressiveness — adding emotional intensity, humour, authenticity, or solidarity. Think of comedians, soldiers, or athletes: swearing can convey sincerity and power that polite words can’t.
In short:
Swearing is seen as an inability to express oneself because of old classist and moral judgments, and because emotional outbursts can look linguistically “lazy.”
But in reality, when used intentionally and contextually, swearing can be a rich form of expression, not a failure of it.
Perfect reference — Stephen Fry has spoken brilliantly about this exact topic.
Fry has often argued that swearing is not a sign of limited vocabulary or poor expression, but rather a sign of verbal richness and emotional precision. Here’s a summary of his stance:
1. “The sort of twee person who thinks swearing is a sign of a limited vocabulary…”
One of his most quoted lines goes something like:
“The sort of twee person who thinks swearing is a sign of a limited vocabulary is just f***ing missing the point.”
What he means is that swearing isn’t what you do instead of finding the right word — it is the right word sometimes. A well-placed swear word can carry emotional or tonal weight that no polite synonym can match.
2. Fry on the music of language
Fry loves language for its sound and rhythm as much as its meaning. He sees swearing as part of that music — another colour on the emotional palette.
He argues that people who avoid swearing entirely are often missing a level of expressive nuance — they may be articulate, but their speech lacks a certain raw vitality.
3. Context and authenticity
Fry often points out that swearing, when used appropriately, can communicate honesty, humour, or intimacy. He doesn’t advocate crude or aggressive use — rather, authentic use that reflects how people genuinely feel or speak in the moment.
4. Language as living, not moral
He’s also said that language shouldn’t be policed like morality. Words aren’t inherently “bad”; their intent and context give them meaning. Swearing is part of language evolution, and trying to ban or stigmatize it misunderstands how human communication works.
So, in essence, Stephen Fry completely rejects the idea that swearing shows a lack of expressive ability.
To him, it shows a love of words in all their forms — elegant, coarse, and everything in between.
It may be rich, it may be interesting it may be impactful, but for those who aren’t Stephen Fry and seen as a funny man….it may get you punched in the face or the social media equivalent of that. It hardly promotes dialogue and done too much, as in the permanent navy, it’s just background ugliness.
Also when I asked Chat if it could come up with any examples of a Fry profanity aimed at an individual it came up with zero after searching for 22 seconds:
Thought for 22s
I couldn’t find a verified instance of Stephen Fry using an actual swear word aimed at a single named individual.
Closest documented cases:
If you’ve got a specific exchange (e.g., a reply to a user handle) I can try to trace it, but from reputable coverage, I don’t see a confirmed one-to-one profanity.
……
So Fry gives you limited license to call a general group F’ers, apparently he doesn’t go so far as to encourage calling an individual opposer an F’er.
Yes agreed he is hardly the sort to swear at someone, my point was more on the use of swearing in general
I swear it’s part of who I am, that is not going to change
I find those who take issue with it conservative and boring, much like vegans.
My youngest swears like I do, my eldest never used to swear. He is far more cultured than me. But ever since he has opened his restaurant, swearing has been added to his vocabulary. The first time I heard him say ‘fuck’ was a humorous proud moment for me. I high fived him :)
Well that’s a heart warming story Dave, few families have bonded so fucking well.
Fuck I laughed out very loudly - if only I could high five you
You couldn’t reach that high….hahahaha…..only kidding. Laughing together is better.
For sure
How refreshing...a lucidum intervallum. ;-)