New Minister of Sport

 Dof doos or directly Dim c u n t
With your knowledge of anything I would keep quiet and not make a bigger fool of yourself as you usually are.
You think that you know about rugby - but never  yet produce any proof of that -  you merely react to other members - normally in a chronically stupid response.   So keep it up - it actually is your normal - a massively funny experience on this site.   No one would ever believe that you have not carried idiocy to extreme levels.    

You are busy strangling yourself, oudste. Rather let it go.

 Same as  you are in the clutches of idiocy - dof doos?

 Ou Tokkie in a familiar position:

Damn! What a judgmental lot we are!!! We've all made decisions with the hope of furthering our respective careers! Moz, I understand the corporate world and I know for a fact, that if you achieved the career highs you claimed to have achieved, then you DID make a few questionable decisions along the way and you did stab a few people in the back along the way. That is the ONLY way to make it to the top of the corporate ladder. I dare you, tell me you have never made a career decision that did not make you question its morality after the fact? I don't judge, and I don't care. It is human nature to want to win and to want to achieve. 
Fnuck the ANC and Fnuck Jacob Zuma! But if Mike's choices lay between him losing his job, or joining the ANC, then joining the ANC is the better choice. Does that automatically make him corrupt? No. Could he have been corrupt? Fnucked if I know. But without solid proof, noboby here is in a position to judge him.
In short, especially to all the so-called Christians here, take a bloody look at yourself before you judge others! Log in your eye, speck in your brother's etc etc 

Nah Blue. You do make a few valid points but political affiliation in the public sector is a major no-no. If you have to make a political move to further and/or secure your job then there is something serious wrong somewhere. FFS, it should actually be the same for the private sector. Isn't that exactly the breeding ground for bribery and corruption. Mike once told us with great pride how his connections with the Sisulus helped him secure some kind of deal with a water project or something? If one has to go to those lengths to have these kinds of issues sorted in that way rather than through "the system", it surely cannot be right. And don't even try to lecture me with "it happens all the time". I know it does. I was in the Defence Force for 14 1/2 years and I have used the old boys net on many occasions to speed things up where necessary. But using political affiliation does not sit well anywhere in the world. Although there might be instances where it can be good, the chances are that someone else will get screwed at some stage somewhere along the line. If you want to see a good example of how political profiling/affiliation can screw things up, go look up the hearings into political profiling by the IRS in the USA.

Cera, I am not saying for one second it is right or justified. And if what you say about Mike regarding a water project and the Sisulus is true, then he needs to answer for it. I don't know, so I can't comment. Also, I agree with you that corruption in any sector, private or public is deplorable. But as you have done with pulling strings to "Speed things up", we have all done in some form or another. Where does one draw the line? What is acceptable and what is not? It is all one big grey area. 
My point is this, we don't know the facts regarding Mike past dealings. Also, "It happens all the time" is also no excuse for anything. However, there are a few posters here, that I can say with a high level of certainty, have done some very questionable things in the past. Yet here they are acting holier than thou, pointing fingers at someone for doing the same. It just smacks of hypocrisy.  
Lastly, I am no Angel, and I have never claimed to be one. An example, I have been riding Super Bikes all my adult life, until today, I have never had a number plate on any of them....say no more. 

Point taken, Bluebok, but I know what I have done and what Ou Maaikie has boasted about on many occasions. He made a political decision for his own benefit. Simple as that. That is no deffirent from the things he is shouting at Zuma and the ANC for. He is BSing when he says that he dropped them when Zuma became president. He was telling us on this very same forum that Zuma was actually a nice guy. Mike started posting on here somewhere in 2011 or later. Zuma became president in May 2009. Do the math.

Then Mike needs to explain....

 Bluebok
What the Dunce said is another lie of his.   The only major Water Project had zero to do with the Sisulus.   I was responsible in a major way for the privatization of the Dolphin Coast Water an sewerage service.   It was initially granted to SAUR - a French company after a Request for Proposals controlled by the Development Bank of SA.  There was absolutely zero involvement by the Sisulus in the project - the Dunce is mad.
It took three years of negotiations and most ethical ones at that to get the process finalized and the involvement of the private sector has been a resounding success.   I even gave lectures on the issue to Municipalities throughout SA - as well as post-graduate engineering students at Stellenbosch University as well as at an International Conference in Bremen (Germany).
I think this story is another of the slander stories Mozart and the Dunce are spreading on the site - all lies and they are despicable. 
What this idiot is probably referring to is the construction of the  private hospital in Ballito - where I asked Dr Albertina Luthuli to help us getting an operating license from the Provincial Government - who set on the applications for five years.   There were zero corruption in that as well.
I think the two (Mozart and the Dunce) are just getting more and more idiotic with each post they make.   They lie about everything and is now trying character assassination as a new method.   I have two choices - leave the site (which they are trying to get me to do - or just ignore their BS.   I am going to follow the latter course and this is the last post I will respond to the lying BS of those two idiots.       

More protesting.

 Blue you have a TV view of ethics. I have been CEO or lead director of 4 Fortune 500 companies and I can honestly say I never received a valuable gift, never broke any laws, and never stabbed anybody in the back. To the contrary I refused compensation above normal Board level for a 3 month stint where I took over the full time running of a company for the Board, when a management crisis occurred. . Not everybody is corrupt.

"I have been CEO or lead director of 4 Fortune 500 companies . . . blah blah blah . . ."

Pfffffffffffhahahahaha!

4? It used to be 2!

About as believable as the "MacClarrin" (sic) that you drive!

LMAO!

Ceo of 2......lead director of 2. ........2 plus 2 equals 4. . But you know all this having crawled all over my private data. Which makes your post what? That's right, just another lie.

Well all I know is you were either lying then or you're lying now . . . because it was 2 and now it's 4. Next year it'll be 6 and you'll be calling me a liar and denying you ever said this. That is how you roll after all. A deceitful and self-important old toad.

it's really silly I have to do this.....but I will be accused of lying if I don't. ... Last time I said I was CEO of 2 Fortune 500 companies. .. This time I said I was CEO or Lead Director of 4 Fortune 500 companies. . ....I could also say I was CEO, COO, Lead Director or Director of 8 Fortune 500 Companies .. All true and that excludes 3 stints as COO of major divisions larger than all but a handful of South African companies. And you have led what? An office somewhere....or maybe not. ....... LMAOFY!

Moz, with all due respect. I don't believe you. I am not saying you have ever broken any laws or anything like that, but I have been in business for long enough to know that regardless of the type of business you are in, it is never rainbows and unicorns. The real world of business is ruthless and cutthroat. Either you are having your throat cut, or you are doing the cutting. As for how TV portrays big business. If anything, it glorifies it. In the corporate world those in positions of power play the political game just as much as they play the business game. We all know politics is never straight forward, and very seldom honest, so everyone here can draw their own conclusions. 
Just to be clear, I am not judging you, what I have said is just the way things are. The corporate world is sure as hell not for sissies.     

Every major company has a code of ethics, with respect to gifts, obeying the law etc......guys who are 'political' don't progress in the system. Nice guys win in the end. That doesn't mean you don't challenge or compete. You do, but in the interest of your company...not yourself. If you are seen as putting self interest ahead of your company or customers, you are dead.....most of the guys are competed with are still my friends.

Moffie, I must say it's very hard to reconcile the image of this Fortune 500 CEO and international leader of industry with the small-minded, deceitful and childish little jerk-off we see on here every day.

Just saying . . .

 That's your problem.....I have no problem at all reconciling the bullying, self important, cowardly slime-off we see on the Board with the loser you are in real life.

 It is a fact that around 23% of CEO's are psychopaths. That is the same percentage found amongst prisoners! These people are successful even though they clearly feel nothing for anyone around them, which clearly goes against the picture you are painting. Maybe some CEO's are decent enough chaps, but I am still convinced such CEO's are the exception. It is the nature of the beast. Anyway, that is just my opinion. You are entitled to yours. 

Which 4 Fortune 500- companies are being spoken about- and what was the time periods of each one. 

Moz I believe you and there are good corporate leaders...I met and knew Raymond Ackermann of Pick 'n Pay...an exceptional man with extremely good work ethics, highest integrity and a huge giver but I must say he stands out...head and shoulders...a huge creator of goodwill and boost to our economy...I even did a bit of business with him as an underling. Probably the best retailer the world ever had.

 Rooinek
It is now 8 fortune 500 companies - growing from 2 to 8 - when is it going to reach the magical number 10 - it has gone up already by 400% - another 120% will surely be possible.  

There's a huge difference, between fortune companies and productive companies...read Ayn Rand's book Atlas Shrugged. The Looters verses the Creators of Wealth.

Hey, guys calm down.
Whatever happened, happened.
It is all water under the bridge and is benefiting nobody.
IPL starts soon so let's watch some cricket.

 

DA what you saying is obvious but is far more intricate than that...very few if any system providers , financial providers and product providers are NOT honest let alone squeaky clean...Bill Gates created a system that both provides a monopoly service to the world but in the context creates a world of looters, and he is not excluded...the internet is plagued with get rich schemes that are the biggest scamsters and all sorts of things , too vast to even go down that road.

Initially the fundamental simple essence of good business was hard work, creativity and productivity...today it's manipulation, disception, confusion, billing for services misunderstood for the ignorant and not a benefit of all...ease of life but ironically we are poorer today in value of assets and life, have far less time to spend with our families and friends, indulge in excess and immoral entertainments and are more unhappy and stressed than ever...a very few ultra rich sit at the top and indulge and boast.

What a mess of simple economics...

 Initially the fundamental simple essence of good business was hard work, creativity and productivity...today it's manipulation, disception, confusion, billing for services misunderstood for the ignorant and not a benefit of all...

When was that initially?

Hard work as it is promoted by excellent men is nothing by a high consumption rate activity. People work hard as they are going as fast as possible to depletion of resources. Hard work is just another word for gluttony. Gluttons work hard the same way excellent men work hard.

Kolmanskop is an example of hard work. There is not many excellent men left in Kolmanskop now the resources are gone.

Yet Kolmanskop is now a right for place for a different type of hard work, the type of work that is hard work because the resources are gone. The type of work you spend long, painful hours to collect little.

Coming to SA soon.

Read "Atlas Shrugged" by Ayn Rand (incidentally I never idolised her because she was a pagan but she is very correct on the political/economic front...a deep insighted intelligence) Trad if you need intelligent intellectual response...Kolmanskop is just a symbol  what happens to man's unrealistic dreams and expectations...trying to built a prosperous city in a desert with a resource that must run out...in a sense it's quite clever it relates to the Rainbow Nation in a symbolic way and yes eventually to the rest of the world...starting with the USA next, going into Europe, the East (Far and Middle) and endin g in Russia.

 And Tokkie breaks his rule.....why does that not surprise me, he is totally obsessed as I showed in the string on on the Stalker.