NZ 7s vs blitzbok cup final,,,

A master piece Boklogic and one that ends the contest. Sound advice given to kiwis as well; and its all free!

Game set and match.

 

Well either some slapper named Sussie did the dirty or SA has very very low food hygiene standards. Those lads WERE crook no team would bench those first choice guys and make that shit up! (Embarrassing that i even have to spell that out lol)

2007 was disgraceful and that case has been closed a long while, but it was only the quarter finals so I'm not gonna say we would have won the world cup cause we probably wouldn't have.

2011 I don't know what you guys are even smoking, you guys were shit and wouldn't have gotten past the semis. You go on about been robbed but what about poor wales in the first pool match, yeah/naah forgot about that aye guys must have the nose a bit too far up your poor pooper's. I don't hear any blame going to Ireland for beating aussie and setting up that quarter final either, nope as always it's the refs fault, we can doa better job.

Your all the same and all just like that fat saffa fucker who jumped on the pitch and took a swing at the ref. Things don't always go your way in life but you fellas should know that with your piss poor economy, skill shortage and dismal human rights history hahaahahaha it makes me laugh and think life is grand it really does! hahahahahabanbeanio good luck at the next world cup btw... 

 

 

Logic, we've just about done this one to death so all I'm going to say is that watching that incident live and on websites since, Benazzi dived on to the ground and in the atrocious conditions slid well over the line with ball in hand. Benefit of the doubt had to go to the French, except for Derek Bevan's home side favouritism!

I've never said Bevan blew the French out of the game; just when it really counted in the last minutes when the try would've won the match for them. That's when he earnt his gold watch from the good "Doctor" Luyt.

Luyt may have been Mike's mate but what he did at the dinner after the Final was an absolute disgrace in first presenting the watch and then thumbing his nose at all and sundry by declaring that the Boks would've won the first 2 tournaments anyway. Several ABs walked out of that dinner after that incident.

Luyt may have been a nice bloke otherwise but he was always despised on this side of the world after that display of sheer arrogance.

Subject now closed.

Ha ha Moolaa, are you listening to yourself? Benefit of the doubt? Have you ever heard of a call in rugby being made "benefit of the doubt?" Law states it must be conclusive evidence a try has been scored. If there is any doubt, it can not be awarded!

He could have dived to the floor, ball get stuck under him and never cross the line. How do you know that did not happen. We couldn't see. Anything could have happened. The right decision was made at the end of the day.

 

Allblackandtalknothingbutsmack, how can you say those mem were crook? Men do not play 120 mins of footy at that level if they are crook. Have you ever had food poisoning? My dad got it from some sushi he ate in Hamilton (food standards guys!!) and we thought he was gona die. He was violently ill and too weak to do anything for around 5 or 6 days! I kid you not. He is shit scared of sushi now.

 

How can the AB's have had food poisoning and still be strong enough to play a game of international rugby for 120 mins. My dad would have been steam rolled by a toddler in that state. Please okes, dont talk shit. Like many occasions before, you boys just couldn't get the job done. Must remember, those were the days politics did not impact our rugby and we could choose 22 of the best players in the country. Something we have not been able to do for a good 10 to 15 years now!

 

You speak of the Irish v Aus game. Who reffed that by the way?? Oh ya.. The man himself. Bryce Lawrence. Any wonder why the 2 biggest upsets of the compo came at the hands of him? Aussies also launched a formal complaint after that game and Bryce did he best to avenge that game by sucking the Aussies ass against us to prove he doesn't hate them. Nothing you guys say will change that he is a dirty little cunt (kiwi for short!).

 

Piet Van Zyl. Yep, the fat fucker who took it upon himself to see a fair match and he got that result. Once ref's were replaced, the Boks finally were awarded a try despite being on top all game. Go watch that game again. 60 000 people in a stadium cant all be wrong!

 

Thanks to South Africans in NZL, you dom foks dont have skills shortages anymore. Sure, it has impacted on SA but atleast NZL is running these days. No need to thank us. How can you be smart when you are outnumbered by sheep!

 

You mention the SA v Wales game?? What for I dont know. Good contest given to the Boks by a team who should have been finalists. We were fortunate to get the W there but what more?? I fail to see how wales were robbed. If you talking about the kick at goal, Vinnie Munroe himself said that it did not go over. He said it swung after the post and actually missed by a lot bigger margin than people think or that it looked like. They did analysis on it.

Why would 2  linesman be so confident??

 

I like your comment "No team would make that shit up!" Ha ha kiwis always have an excuse. Just like the Boks supporters. Funny how you have had an excuse for every other game you dont win that matters!

Logic making up rugby laws once again! Tell me where it says "there must be conclusive evidence"?

Nowhere; that's where,  you dung merchant! He definitely crossed the line too you blind hua!

Make sure you stay in North Harbour too, with the rest of your immigrant mates who couldn't tough it out in their own country. There's obviously a Bok influence there by the way their rugby team is performing!

Ha ha wrong again Moolaa. We just toughed it for too long that we come here to life the cushy lives and take jobs away from the brainless.

You wouldn't last a day in SA so spare the bullshit of toughing it. Whilst you spending your benefit, we lived in the real world!

 

He could have crossed the line, he could have grounded the ball but then again, many guys have crossed the line and not scored tries. Its called held up you dumb prick!

 

There must be conclusive evidence of a try being scored. Any doubt and the try can not be awarded. If there does not need to be conclusive evidence, why do we have TMO's ruling on that instead of every player that crosses the line just be awarded a try like NFL?? You just sounding stupid now Moolaa..Just shut up and fade away and we will forget that comment surrounding "conclusive!"

 

Have you ever heard the TMO say, "There was no conclusive evidence that a try has been scored therefore, held up, 5 metre scrum attacking ball!" No benefit of the doubt in rugby!

I doubt you've ever toughed anything out in your miserable life Logic. You sure couldn't hack the pace in SA. You must be an embarrassment to your family!

I repeat, where does the word conclusive (you must have used spell check for that word) appear in the rules of rugby in connection with a try? It doesn't!

Logic still inventing I see!

And what's this "you just sounding"  and "whilst you spending your benefit"? The word is "you're" you illiterate imbecile! Get back to Broederbond Elementary with Hasbeeno and learn the basics of English as you're really sounding like a moron now.

 23 years of the good life in SA. The toughest part of my life has been the last 3.5 years in this shit hole country with dumb fucks like yourself. What can you expect from an island though where who can receive the most hand outs is name of the game.. Your family must be so proud of you.

 

My entire family is over in NZL now..We all came to make sure we take a few more jobs away from kiwis ;-)

 

Think logically knobless. If we did not need conclusive evidence to make rulings, then why would we have TMO's?? Would the refs not just carry on assuming?? U so thick!!

Come now boklogic, everybody knows you don't eat seafood in Hamilton the chlamydia capital of the fucking world, if food poisoning was his biggest problem he should thank has lucky stars (He could have been made some bush pigs bitch and really got sick!).

That fucking kick looked like it went over to me and I'm sticking to that version of events!

Yeap, lots of saffa's in nz now, worked with a few but only meet 1 who was actually a very good craftsmen, the rest are the reason pay rates for engineers are now on par with xray attendants at the airport. Interviewed a saffa welder years ago and had a test set up for him, silly bastard didn’t even wear a helmet and gave himself probably the worst case of arc eye i've ever seen and had to take him to A n E, I was gonna stop him but thought fuck em, he's probably related to Suzzie!

Those 'dirty kiwis' grabbing the handouts you refer to, are all that’s left in NZ now. All us decent bastards are either in oz, the UK or like me in the middle east, I went back last xmas to get married and my god the place has gone down hill (probably thanks to all those saffa's!) and when asked by friends if I would come back to live I said what would I even do here, teach? there are no decent, interesting industry’s left. So honestly you guys can have NZ, take the woman too...please hahahahahaha

 

 

 

Logic, let's have another English lesson and listen very carefully.

It's not U (you) so thick, it's "you're" as in "you are"! Takes a while to get through to some boat people.

If your entire family's here, I'll bet the whole tribe is an embarrassment to whatever community you lived in in SA. They would be in despair at your inability to tough it out like  true South Africans and not whimp and whine off to good old NZ and collect our much needed dole money.

As you've handsomely demonstrated, the toughest part of your life has been learning the English language........up to now you have failed miserably in this respect so obviously you aren't gainfully employed in NZ.

Best you get back to SA where you had 23 great years, cos you sure aren't doing so well here.

And take the rest of your "hangers on" with you.

Shows you ignorance that you can comment so insightfully on a man and his families life that you dont know a thing about. Its almost like kiwi's trying to become refs. Stay away from shit that you dont know anything about guys!! Come on man!!

 

I cant believe I made the mistake of signing up to SA rugby. I was looking for English lessons. My bad. What a tosser.

 

Talking about "hangers on," why are you hanging on to an SA rugby site? Is there no NZL rugby site where all you cunts kid each other about how NZL is far superior to the Boks. I assume you will find that site on cloud 9!

 

Nope, all my family is employed thank you. We have a distinct advantage. We are South African in NZL. Its not even fair. Taking candy from a baby.

YOU'RE a knob..Hey look, I learnt english ;-)

ps..there should be a comma seperating the two "in" in the 5th line of your dribble above. See, we can all pick each others grammar apart if we lack the intelligence to form a decent come back. No one thinks you are clever but yourself and your parents. Course a lifetime at home on the dole, smoking P didnt help them much ;-)

Boklogic you really hate living in NZ or just reacting to Kiwi posters? And have to say at the moment NZ does have SA number in rugby, you just have to look at the win/loss ratio/champioships won in Super rugby, Tri nations, Rugby Championship and AB/Bok matches played to date, that is not cloud 9. However if you do hate living there are you there for work?

Poly, you have to make allowances for sad people like Logic. Despised in his own country for leaving when the going got a tad tough and now despising the country that welcomed him and his "hangers on" with open welfare cheque book!

On top of this, his rugby team is continually owned by the ABs! Makes for a miserable existence, especially if your command of the local language isn't crash hot either. Difficult to even land a job in those circumstances, let alone hold one down.

Nah Poly. Dont hate NZL. Took a while to get used to it but its pretty good now. Well I went back to Durbs for 5 week holiday last year (35 days to be exact) and I changed my ticket after 10 days and returned to NZL. Its home now.

 

I had a moment of honesty with Saffex about how I feel about NZL the other day on one of the posts. NZL has its faults, SA has more so when I get guys bringing up all of ours, I have to throw some back. Definately reacting to Kiwi posters ;-)

 

No doubt the AB's have the wood on the Boks in the last few years but I can guarantee you one thing, a lot of that has to do with team selection. Lets see it from the point of view of NZL. If all our players, were your players, would the team look the same. Would Hansen and co. ever consider guys like Kirchner and the rest?

We have political influences. One thing is for certain, if a guy like Beeno picked the pack and Saffex the backs, the Bok team, we would be a whole lot more scary to the AB's. Political pressure dont allow us to. We come over to NZL and compete, in my opinion, way better on a whole than kiwi teams tend to go in the republic during S15. Why when we get to Bok level does that change. Its because NZL are selecting the best 22 in their country. We are not! We are seeing our best attacking players sitting out for guys like De Jongh, Kirchener and heaps of others. Only way to beat NZL is to have big, athletic men runnning it up all day. Kirchener and co are links the AB's attack all day long. We need to get rid of some old, dead wood because what I have seen emerge this year in terms of new kids on the block is better than I have seen for a while!

 

On the competing in NZL. I refer to games like the Sharks nearly reeling the Chiefs in. That game should have been put to bed after the first 15. Stormers topple Hurricanes in wellington and Canes get dicked in Pretoria. Cheetahs hammer the star studded Highlanders. Bulls beat the high flying Blues. Stormers beat the Blues everywhere but scoreboard. Sharks had the better of Highlanders with a team with no less than 20+ injuries. 3rd string team! We are competing a lot better now than we have done in the past. Not saying we have not had those games that NZL teams have dominated but on a whole, we are competing much better. I think with a bit of thinking in selection from coaches, we are ready to take back world number 1 status. That game in Dunedin with a young team was plain for all to see what dominance we can have and should have. Now we have better players to build on that!

Boklogic,this is a rugby site and to see the tone change to personal attacks whether SA or Kiwi detracts from why we are here, namely friendly,ribbing banter and chest puffing as to why SA rugby or NZ rugby is better. We are all men aren't we, but my interest in why you were in NZ was more that with you living there and if you really did hate it then I actually thought crap is my country really treating a foreign national that badly? Living overseas as a kiwi you take a certain pride in your country so hearing that it may be treating someone who has chosen to settle there poorly leaves ones nationalistic pride dented. For all our differences at the end of the day rugby is only a game we all enjoy, but man when it descends into attacks, I love my rugby but not enough to use it as an excuse to slander someone.. Anyway I'm glad things aren't that bad there for you and your family.

Yeah for sure Poly. You must be patriotic and on a whole, NZL is a good place to live. Now, everywhere we go as South African's, we have to take shit about where we're from and the state of our country but then you get someone like Moolaa who runs his mouth off about the country when he has never been there. Runs his mouth off about Dr. Luyt when he personally doesn't know the man.

 

I dont know Dr. Luyt personally either so for all I know, Moolaa could be right in calling him and arrogant ponce but I assume he too is taking a stab in the dark on that one too.

 

I blame some ex-pats for that as well. I meet a lot of South African's this side that make out like they are lucky to be alive and like SA is the wild west. Talking utter crap about guys getting hijacked at every robot (traffic light) and that you cant leave your fenced in homes. I just laugh then ask so how long have u been here? What age did u leave SA. Often getting answers of 11 - 15 years olf and sometimes younger. Then I tell them so basically you left SA before you finished school and moved out of your parents home. You couldn't legally drive a car and got lifts everywhere with your parents. As a man who lived, worked, finished school and had independence in the country, I can assure them that its nothing like they make out and they are just trying to sound like the tough guy.

These are the stories kiwi's are hearing and that gives them this completely different picture. Then I meet older Kiwi's on the golf course who have travelled through SA, some a long time ago when it was great but others more recent and they loved it! Yes, crime is bad and yes its getting worse but far from what some of these SA pricks that were wrapped up in cotton wool by their parents before coming over here will tell you.

For this reason, I find it easier to relate to Kiwi's here than those types of "Saffas!" Some left as early as 3 or 4 years old and you would never say they are South African yet they have the most to say about the place they know nothing about besides being born and shipped!

You know Boklogic, I know several SA here in US who tell me exactly what you just said and their experiences are different depending on how long ago they left SA. During World Cup was at Disneyworld had an AB shirt on, a tap on the shoulder and it was a SA with a Bok shirt on, no rivalry just talked rugby for awhile didn't even no each others name and parted, but he didn't have a bad word to say about SA, funnily enough met an Aussie too that day who asked the AB/wallaby score, when told AB won, all he said was "f....ken kiwi's and walked off. However crap happens and I suppose for you its worse as you live in NZ where rugby is as much a passion as in SA and must worsen during super 15, test seasons, kinda like living in the enemies camp. Anyhow this doesn't mean we can't still differ in our opinions but in a civil way. You live in Albany? Gradutaed from AUT in the 90's.