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Old players vs young ones

Started by Saffolk 51 REPLIES676 VIEWS· 22 Oct 2013, 16:03
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Saffolk Captain30,741 posts
24 Oct 2013, 01:30
#41
24 Oct 2013, 01:30#41
Boglogic, my bet is that you are too fucking stupid to even know who Mnisi is?

Found any willing sheep yet lately arsewipe.

No Beenkop, I am not saying they are all Boks.......I am saying a good few of them should be without having to throw quotas into the equation.

I see that fucking useless Dutchman is back......he has obviously been away brushing up on his ENGLISH



MO
MozartCaptain49,914 posts
24 Oct 2013, 01:33
#42
24 Oct 2013, 01:33#42

 Um RIp old boy your snippy little attack started on the premise that Boklogic's list of:Volmink, Jantjies, Mnisi, Ntubeni, Nkanyane, Kolisi, Mtembu, Kolbe, Mapoe and Rhule....was a negative racist thing. But in fact it was Dave's list and from that list Logic removed: JP, Habana, Beast and Chiliboy.

 

I'm sure you have twigged why you are looking like a fool again, which is why you are now harping on why Boklogic left South Africa....demanding an answer. But I could easily give you one you Welsh lush..... it's none of your business....got it?

BO
BoklogicPro1,978 posts
24 Oct 2013, 02:26
#43
24 Oct 2013, 02:26#43

 The classic diversion attempt from Rooitwit. Does mine or the other millions of South African's (black and white) who have chosen to live abroad have anbything to do with you?

 

Just sit there for a while feeling silly that you spoke up and made an arse of yourself again. No one is buying your diversion attempt.

 

Saffex, of course I know who Howard Mnisi is. When I was in Durban, he was playing club rugby for Jaguars from Sydenham.

He couldn't quite cut it at the Sharks so left to play for Griquas.

Fact that he couldn't cut it at the Sharks to Dave means that he should be promoted to international honours.

 

Dont rattle off names for the sake of it Dave. Most those players are nowhere near international level and never will be. You seem to underestimate what it takes to be in the best 22 to 28 rugby players in your country. You think this is just another Currie Cup first division team!

 

How can we select Mnisi when guys like De Villiers, Serfontein, Steyn, Ebersohn, De Allende are all still around and we are still waiting on Howard, Fisher and other promising youngsters who are better currently. Use your head. 75% of those names I just mentioned will never be good enough to be the best in the country and here you come over the top with a clanger like Mnisi!

Time will tell and I wont write him off but right now, he is anything but a merit selection if he were to be selected.

 

Rooi, still feeling stupid bugger??

 

MO
MozartCaptain49,914 posts
24 Oct 2013, 02:28
#44
24 Oct 2013, 02:28#44
RIProoi doesn't feel stupid, but feelings can be  deceiving. He is stupid, as this string so clearly demonstrates.
SA
Saffolk Captain30,741 posts
24 Oct 2013, 02:37
#45
24 Oct 2013, 02:37#45
Howard Mnisi has been a revelation at the Griquas. I had never seen him play before but one certainty is that this lad has test centre written all over him. Big physical guy with a great step and always looking for work.

The lad has stood out in an average Griquas side playing with his back to the wall. Your take on this lad tells me you have not seen a single game of his this year.......for if you have, you are even more stupid than I originally thought.

I take it Habana left the Bulls because he could not cut it there, huh?
CL
clevermikeCoach57,555 posts
24 Oct 2013, 02:47
#46
24 Oct 2013, 02:47#46

Mozart

 

You allege I am wrong - and try to prove that by mentioning one or two individual players - which you use as an escape mechanism in this case.

 

My viewpoint is all indications are that there will be "golden oldies"  with whom I have no problem.   My problem is with the "rotten oldies" - who do not have the potential to develop their games further and in fact let down the team even at present and more so in future.   I named those player clearly in the past.

 

If you dispute the fact that no team has won the WC twice in succession - you are arguing against historic fact.   M y point is that virtually all those losses stemmed from retention of players that should have been replaced because they were not really up too standard by the time the next WC came around.    That is a fact of life as well.

 

Nobody is arguing in favour of whole-sale changes to the Springbok squad.  Of the 23 players in the match day squad - there are serious problems with 5 players.   With them around we may be able to retain our no 2 ranking in the world - but we definitely will not progress any further and the WC in 2015 will be a lost cause.   The real argument is - should we remain stagnant - or at least make an effort to improve? 

 

   

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BoklogicPro1,978 posts
24 Oct 2013, 02:53
#47
24 Oct 2013, 02:53#47
 Ha ha now u wana compare a man who left the Bulls with nothing left to prove to a guy like Mnisi who has proven nothing?
Dave, Habana had options. The world was his oyster when he left the bulls. Any team in this world would have considered forking out for him. He left for another premier team and higher salary. A new challenge. You wana compare that to a bloke who had to lower his pay expectations, try out at the Cheetahs only to be declined then link up with the out of their depth Griquas? Ha ha Dave, how stupid are you? Do u bother to read what you say back to yourself?
You right tho, maybe Habana should upgrade from the stormers to the SWD eagles. You reckon he would be a welcome addition! Stupid!
SA
Saffolk Captain30,741 posts
24 Oct 2013, 03:03
#48
24 Oct 2013, 03:03#48
 Boktwat.......you miss the point you ignorant grunt
BO
BoklogicPro1,978 posts
24 Oct 2013, 03:55
#49
24 Oct 2013, 03:55#49
No Dave, you have no point. U are comparing a living great against a no body. Why don't u just compare the power of a v8 vs a Toyota tazz?
Habana chose to leave the Bulls, Howard never had a choice. The bulls were a better team than stormers when habana left, Howard couldn't make a better team than the Griquas. Bulls didn't wana lose habana. Sharks didn't want Howard!
I don't even know why I am arguing this point with u. It is ludicrous. Those two players are like u and the rest if us...not even in the same book never mind page! 
Don't insult Habana!
DE
DennyCaptain12,893 posts
24 Oct 2013, 13:50
#50
24 Oct 2013, 13:50#50
 At one count Rudolph Straueli had 75 players in his squad......
BO
BoklogicPro1,978 posts
24 Oct 2013, 14:01
#51
24 Oct 2013, 14:01#51
 He used something like 68 players in 26 tests over 2 years bearing in mind, a lot of those tests were at a world cup where you can only have x amount of players and those should be formed from your core squad 2 years out. 
Ridiculous really. He should have used no more than 35 players in those 26 games.
DE
DennyCaptain12,893 posts
24 Oct 2013, 14:08
#52
24 Oct 2013, 14:08#52

 Clueless. Which begs the question....how did he become a Bok coach?

 

 

It must be the easiest thing in the world to hang names out there....

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