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Ozzies getting uppity about their scrum - it's the Boks fault

Started by Just_win5 REPLIES365 VIEWS· 20 Jul 2015, 12:59
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JW
Just_winCaptain18,570 posts
20 Jul 2015, 12:59
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20 Jul 2015, 12:59#1

Article by By Andrew Smyth-Kirk, the headline is mine 


I think it’s time the Wallabies rethought the front row configuration. Saturday night’s first Rugby Championship Test match in Brisbane showed the ascendancy of the Brumbies’ Scott Sio as the rightful owner of the Wallabies’ loosehead prop position.

Sio’s ball running also injected extra punch in the midfield, as did veteran Greg Holmes. The energetic running from Sio and Holmes set the platform for the eventual escape victory.

The pleasure I felt when Stephen Moore called for the second scrum on the South African five-metre line was immense. A feeling that I have to admit I have not felt in relation to an Australian scrum for a number of years.

It was joyful to finally see an Australian scrum to be proud of. Let’s not get to excited, the scrums I speak of came late in the game with the Wallabies threatening the Springbok line on numerous occasions and with a high level of possession. Those scrums were powerful examples of what an Australian scrum should be, even if the starting Springbok front row was off the field.

It was a good, albeit small sign of the possibility of the group. We all know how much we will need it coming into the World Cup against England and the other strong northern hemisphere packs.

This small glimpse of possibility now needs to be tested for real. We need to see that combination start against Argentina, who are renowned for their scrum strength and technique. If that test is passed then on with the All Blacks. Sekope Kepu didn’t have a bad game but the inclusion of Sio was instantaneously effective.

The Wallaby scrum was found a bit wanting earlier in the game against the experienced Springbok front row, displaying what seemed to be rudimentary mistakes. A few times the second row bind loosened and the integrity of the scrum was compromised.

Will Skelton with his massive size and strength should not have let this happen. Most of the time it was not a problem but maybe the intensity of the first Test of the year got to him at those moments in the game.

The inclusion of James Horwill later in the second half also pulled the scrum together. Horwill has put his head in many a scrum, and it was evident with the tight five when he came on. His ball running also added aggression, running hard with strong carries a far cry from the majority of his Super Rugby season.

Michael Cheika has an interesting selection issue next week in Argentina. I would think this week will see an intensified scrum session plan for the team coming into the challenging Argentina pack. The hard yards need to be packed down for what will be a great test for the forwards going into the World Cup.

Overall the forwards should be relatively happy with their efforts. However, on a number of occasions second and third phase ball was lost due to lazy or ineffective clean outs. Another relatively rudimentary part of the game that will need to be solidified if the Wallabies believe they are any chance of beating the All Blacks.

Let’s get it straight, any victory will have to be a whole team effort but the forwards will love to see a kick fired down from the backs land in some space or go out. I lost count of the number of kicks that missed their mark.

It’s tough trudging about the field for some of those bigger blokes, particularly when you see territory destroyed by poor kicking.

JW
Just_winCaptain18,570 posts
20 Jul 2015, 13:07
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20 Jul 2015, 13:07#2
Now see what you have gone & done the Ozzies are now chest-thumping about their scrum.
I am still not convinced however. As we have all said the Boks made some bad subs - at least Meyer got some answers about his bench - and then we saw the result. It was the end of the game, Boks were tired & dazed & confused & were unable to suck it up (too tired given all the defence they were required to do for almost the entire second half).
Incidentally if Victor was on the field he would have received a scathing attack from many on this site. He was not but still he is receiving scathing attacks.
No the Ozzie scrum has yet to prove themselves but they now have belief.
DE
DennyCaptain12,893 posts
20 Jul 2015, 13:09
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20 Jul 2015, 13:09#3
I wouldn't get too uppity if I were a Wallaby specially after closer review of the many mistakes made by the Boks that led to their demise.
DE
DezertFoxPro2,288 posts
20 Jul 2015, 13:17
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20 Jul 2015, 13:17#4
Malherbe was a nonentity, but then, Beast was also worryingly absent outside of the scrum. Meyer was obviously trying to inject something into our carries. Beast is usually one of our sure things as a ball carrier. Jannie needs to be carefully managed so I have no problems with Meyer trying a bench option that the fans clearly rate highly. Sio was okay, but not quite what they say here. 
For the Wallabies, Gits, Cooper, Kuridrani, AAC and Hooper were on another level. Absolutely immense. They bamboozle Damian and caused all kinds of problems. 
KM
Ka MateClub Pro246 posts
20 Jul 2015, 13:46
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20 Jul 2015, 13:46#5
Why are the Ockers getting so excited about beating the Springbok scrum? Who doesn't smash the Yarpies in the scrums these days?
AB
ABasquefanPro2,549 posts
20 Jul 2015, 16:12
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20 Jul 2015, 16:12#6
 I agree with the journalist that Sio deserves a starting spot.
Also that Skelton contributed nothing to the game, he was seen the first 10 minutes and then went missing. He didn't even contribute to improve the scrum despite his size and Horwill's incorporation was positively noticed in all the aspects of the game.

Aussies had other many problems to resolve appart from the tight 5, beggining with the backrow. Poc0ck is a must, without him the breakdown battle was being clearly won by the boks. Hooper was one of the prominent players and it's very difficult to ignore his ascendant over the team so I would try to play with both openside flankers. Hooper is more a blindside, except for his size. He's an outstanding ball carrier and defender, as he proved last saturday.
The problems of playing with both Poc0ck and Hooper at the same time are the weight and size of the forward pack and the lineouts. I don't think that the first one is a major problem and the lineout problem can be resolved benching Skelton who cannot dispute the lineouts because no one can lift his 148 kg and playing with 2 locks and a number 8 who can dispute them for having at least 3 possible options.

Higginbottam's contribution was also very scarce. McCalman is a more solid player and good at lineouts.

Cooper was horrendous. Foley or Gitteau should be the aussies' 10, with the last injured there's only one posibilty, Foley.

My aussie team would be:

1. S. Sio    2. Moore   3. Slipper

4. Horwill   5. Simmons

6. M. Hooper   7. Poc0ck   8. McCalman

9. Phipps    10. Foley

12. Toomua   13. Kuridrani

11. Mitchell/Horne  14. AAC   15. Folau


 16. TPN  17. Kepu  18. Holmes   19. Skelton   20. Fardy   21. N. White  
22. S. Kerevi (as he's not included in the travelling squad, Lealifano) 
23. Horne/Mitchell
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