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MozartCaptain49,914 posts
03 Aug 2021, 17:57
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03 Aug 2021, 17:57#1

COLD AS ICE!

Rassie Erasmus: It’s been embarrassing from the South Africa director of rugby and not much better from the rest of the organisation, who all doubled down on Erasmus’ outburst last week. It started rather jovially with most people finding the humour in the former Munster coach seemingly using a burner account to allege refereeing inconsistencies from the first Test. As that situation petered out, it seemed to be the end of it before it all exploded on Thursday when Erasmus went on an hour-long rant, complaining about certain decisions from referee Nic Berry. It was completely bizarre and not good for the game, with the director of rugby effectively questioning the integrity of the official. Captain Siya Kolisi then fanned the flames further in Friday’s press conference, backing up his boss’ claim that he’d been ‘disrespected.’ It’s all been rather unedifying from the Bok camp, who have lost a lot of goodwill from the rugby public following their historic World Cup win.

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Saffolk Captain30,741 posts
03 Aug 2021, 18:12
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03 Aug 2021, 18:12#2
Who gives a fuck what planet rugby has to say I much prefer Keo’s accurate take on things
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clevermikeCoach57,555 posts
03 Aug 2021, 18:39
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03 Aug 2021, 18:39#3
Erasmus never had the goodwill of Mozart and that is why  he opened two thread on this topic .- one is enough - not 2 - tog et on your normal petty campaign.        
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AugenöffnerPro6,974 posts
03 Aug 2021, 18:46
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03 Aug 2021, 18:46#4

Keo is a fat, cocaine addicted, sexual predator who knows absolutely nothing about the game and is probably an even worse journalist at this point. No surprise Dame Unteromlett likes him. 

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AugenöffnerPro6,974 posts
03 Aug 2021, 18:48
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03 Aug 2021, 18:48#5

"one is enough - not 2"

Who in the hell of hells are you to talk?


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clevermikeCoach57,555 posts
03 Aug 2021, 18:51
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03 Aug 2021, 18:51#6

Bugger off 17 user name expert - time to change your username again Kindergarten  Imbecile.   

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Saffolk Captain30,741 posts
03 Aug 2021, 18:51
#7
03 Aug 2021, 18:51#7
Who gives a flying fuck what you think omelette Seriously
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AugenöffnerPro6,974 posts
03 Aug 2021, 18:59
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03 Aug 2021, 18:59#8

You do, that's why your doctor has to pop you back in after you prolapse. I think you need to be wrapped up in cotton wool. 

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PakieCaptain17,321 posts
03 Aug 2021, 19:29
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03 Aug 2021, 19:29#9
This place remains a barrel of fun


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Beeno1Captain40,032 posts
03 Aug 2021, 20:35
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03 Aug 2021, 20:35#10

Org is a demented lunatic getting worse by the day. His association with the degenerating mozzzzz is proving unhealthy for them both as they egg each other on to greater heights of folly and rank stupidity. 

Who would have thought mozzz would get so bizarre. Lost all ability to see things clearly. What the heck is wrong with him? Org has been strange for a long time and could never see the wood from the trees. I thought initially he was playing the troll but its clear these absurdities are what the loon actually thinks!

What a daft pair of prattling ponces!

Hats for to Rassie a great coach and a great MAN. Has he embarrassed World Rugby chiefs and that is exactly what was needed.

These clowns better watch out. Rassie is a master analyzer. He will have reams and reams of evidence of ref wrong doing and will have all the other times he has sent issues to the IRB with no response.

Hopefully our South African Rugby Board will stand solidly behind Rassie and Siya  and tell the IRB exactly where they went wrong.

Rassie should insist on an open hearing. The IRB would hate that. Hahahahahahahahahaha  - imagine Ra ssie laying out mountains of video evidence.


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MozartCaptain49,914 posts
03 Aug 2021, 22:14
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03 Aug 2021, 22:14#11

I could refute all his evidence so far….think of what a smart ref could do. I’d do it myself but I couldn’t watch that unctuous, falsely modest performance again. Painful. Rassie beloved in SA, viewed as a poor sport and  a nutter everywhere  else.

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Saffolk Captain30,741 posts
03 Aug 2021, 22:24
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03 Aug 2021, 22:24#12
I bet you could not refute a single thing, Rassie is far too rugby sharp for you
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AugenöffnerPro6,974 posts
03 Aug 2021, 23:15
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03 Aug 2021, 23:15#13

So rugby sharp that he uses the same rusher at 7 with the highest missed tackle rate of his tenure, and even more clean breaks against him? That right there is analytics folks. Josè is so transcendental we cannot perceive how holy he is. Just bow, just bow and show your adoration. 

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MozartCaptain49,914 posts
03 Aug 2021, 23:53
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03 Aug 2021, 23:53#14

Okay here’s one for you Dave….name one instance when a prior penalty has been reversed for a subsequent non dangerous foul. That was one of Erasmus’ points though he gave himself an out. Just as well, because it never happens, by reffing custom if not by law.

Another case was the so called non release  of a player whose knee had hit the deck. This rule is usually very leniently called, mostly because the tackling player has no idea whether the knee has hit the deck….so much so that refs often, mostly actually, call off the tackling player.


Two complete nonsense issues in a long list of marginal calls you could extract from any test.

Erasmus is a laughing stock except in the lager.

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DbDraadCaptain26,388 posts
04 Aug 2021, 00:00
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04 Aug 2021, 00:00#15

 They can laugh all the like...this is in th e lager too.

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Saffolk Captain30,741 posts
04 Aug 2021, 00:04
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04 Aug 2021, 00:04#16
Rassie is not the laughing stock at all he is getting huge support including a load of petitions signed in support of him
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MozartCaptain49,914 posts
04 Aug 2021, 00:20
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04 Aug 2021, 00:20#17

No disagreement on my rebuttals then….just a reflex defence of Erasmus. The only reason this hasn’t been blown out of the water is because the Rugby press is notoriously lazy. Just a bit of analysis would reveal how weak the video really is. But the regular pontificators haven’t even entertained the notion that the whole video could be refuted….they accepted he has a point. And he does, the Watson tip tackle, nothing else,

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AugenöffnerPro6,974 posts
04 Aug 2021, 00:31
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04 Aug 2021, 00:31#18

We have two Ex-All Black coaches talking down Rassie and the Boks, ex-England WC winning coach and a bunch of journos in Australia, New Zealand and the UK speaking negatively about the Boks, Josè's hands on approach of a job that's supposedly not his, Josè's PR nightmare attacking the ref and weaponising it. Yeah, all that, but a bunch of petitions from nameless Schlapschwanzen is the greater factor in all of this. Are you so arrogant as too really badly about people who are involved in the game at the highest level? Careful how you answer this one. 

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Saffolk Captain30,741 posts
04 Aug 2021, 00:36
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04 Aug 2021, 00:36#19
There is nothing to rebut Moz, you have said nothing. Rassie raised valid points, some major some minor but all have consequences. Every game we watch is littered with reffing errors which is simply not good enough given the TMO has various camera angles to work with and rectify those mistakes How the fuck did the TMO not pick up on the Watson tip tackle, how does Itoje get away with having his knee on de Allende’s neck.....the list is endless
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AugenöffnerPro6,974 posts
04 Aug 2021, 00:38
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04 Aug 2021, 00:38#20

How did he not call the Damian unskilled forward pass? Or the shoulder charges? 

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MozartCaptain49,914 posts
04 Aug 2021, 00:45
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04 Aug 2021, 00:45#21

The game already took an hour to play each half. It was tedious. These minor calls most of which are 50/50 anyway, even out. You take a picture of a player kneeling on somebody in a ruck…..hell that happens all the time….that was just channeling the George Floyd incident which went on for 10 minutes.

That along with the race card tells one Erasmus has no boundaries. A disgrace.

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MozartCaptain49,914 posts
04 Aug 2021, 00:48
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04 Aug 2021, 00:48#22

The point is the knee hitting the ground incident and the Daley Jersey pull incident were never mistakes….they were  blown according to current rugby practice. Erasmus was wrong on those and many others.

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Saffolk Captain30,741 posts
04 Aug 2021, 01:09
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04 Aug 2021, 01:09#23
They were mistakes - Rassie is correct And at no point did he raise the race card, that’s bullshit I’m not advocating stopping the game for TMO intervention for every minor error what I have an issue with is missing out on the Watson tip tackle and the Duhan vd Merwe tip on PSDT Blatant open major infringements completely ignored Rassie was just making a point raising 26 issues as it added validity to his cause
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CanterburyClub Pro160 posts
04 Aug 2021, 04:10
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04 Aug 2021, 04:10#24

Rassie will try to be the referee next - And then get all upset again when those in rugby complain about that.

Rassie - What goes around comes around.

We will soon see how good the Boks are or aren't (I suspect strongly that it is the latter).

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MozartCaptain49,914 posts
04 Aug 2021, 04:35
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04 Aug 2021, 04:35#25

But that’s exactly what the Erasmus tape is demanding…..complete  and accurate resolution on every 50/50 call. So hour long halves…..endless boring lawyering.

Right now we have video reviews on foul play and possible errors in the lead up to tries. Things like a knee hitting the ground without a release is in the scope of ref judgement.


Occasionally one gets the impression a ref is calling for a team, but it’s a rare occurrence. Getting the endless reffing we saw in the first half is not worth it, just to exclude the occasional aberrant ref.


It will destroy the game.

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clevermikeCoach57,555 posts
04 Aug 2021, 04:58
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04 Aug 2021, 04:58#26

Mozart and the Kindergarten Imbecile started his attacks the day the appointment of Erasmus was announced and they based their attacks then on lies and deception.    They started off by luying about his coaching history.

Both were great supporters of the grossly incompetent Meyer and Coetzee for the simple reason that the two were stupid enough to select players they support.     One could clearly see what they support - the continued destruction of rugby in SA by stupidity.

When you read reports of those two as to what happened in any rugby matches it is a total distortion of the real situation without regard  to what is true and what is fabricated by them.   I am sorry - but this latest attack on Erasmus is as false as their initial attack more than two years ago was.               

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MozartCaptain49,914 posts
04 Aug 2021, 06:01
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04 Aug 2021, 06:01#27

Please stay on topic. This is about his video.

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clevermikeCoach57,555 posts
04 Aug 2021, 06:47
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04 Aug 2021, 06:47#28

The vdeo showed up referee mistakes  and I have no problem  with him doing that.    Let me remind you of your on conduct when it came to Bryce Laurence in the Assie a game in 2011.   You screamed about it endlessly - but when Erasmus did the same - you condemn him for doing it.   That is why you are a farce at best.   

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DbDraadCaptain26,388 posts
04 Aug 2021, 07:24
#29
04 Aug 2021, 07:24#29

"Please stay on topic. This is about his video."

A handy stick...

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Devil's AdvocatePro7,008 posts
04 Aug 2021, 08:16
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04 Aug 2021, 08:16#30

From what I have seen, the support has been overwhelming for Rassie, and not just in SA

Rightly or wrongly, the majority of comments, posts and statements that I have read are fully in support of better officiating at rugby games from the refs.

I am not saying that the people are supporting Rassie taking on world rugby with this specific video, from what I have read, heard or seen, most of the people are saying that if releasing this video creates a more fair, consistent and transparent officiating process, they are fully behind it.

Almost everyone in the positive about this issue itself (not the video) are also saying that there was an extremely clear and distinct difference in the officiating between the 2 games in question and that they are more than happy that this has happened due to the focus that Rassie has put on this issue.... again, not the video itself, but the focus that that video has now created on the whole officiating process.

I have to agree

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DbDraadCaptain26,388 posts
04 Aug 2021, 10:52
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04 Aug 2021, 10:52#31

Indeed, even most of t he comments below that article were positive when I read it.

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Saffolk Captain30,741 posts
04 Aug 2021, 10:56
#32
04 Aug 2021, 10:56#32
Exactly - the support for Rassie is huge
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RooinekCaptain18,117 posts
04 Aug 2021, 11:21
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04 Aug 2021, 11:21#33

I think you guys are delusional and you'll find the support for Rassie is minimal and limited to South Africans (who have a history of whining about refs and ending referee careers). 

Most people outside of South Africa think he's behaving like a sore loser crybaby and he's tainted the series irrevocably. I base that on the comments of our overseas visitors on this forum and the overwhelming anti Rassie sentiment on international rugby boards like Planet Rugby and The Rugby Forum. Go see how many people are supporting Rassie on those forums.

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Beeno1Captain40,032 posts
04 Aug 2021, 11:47
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04 Aug 2021, 11:47#34

I am not in the slightest bit moved by dumbass people not supporting Rassie.

For years these incompetent and cheating refs have got away with it but now have been called out big time with video evidence. 

Too many matches are decided by ref bias and downright cheating.

Berry has no excuses for some of his bizarre calls.

It took a great man with a backbone to stand up against all this never ending BS.

Now it would be nice if all the whining snowflakes crying about the truth being revealed got busy with their coloring in books and hot chocolate. 

World rugby needs a good clean up and I hope Rassie's action gets this rolling. 

As for Planet Rugby bet most posters there are British. Bet also there is very little criticism of Gatloon the Kiwi Bird brain who got this all started. 

Berry fouled up big time, he got exposed and now it's all tears from nut jobs and the twits here who have been Rassie haters from day one. 

Their pathetic bias and vitriol against Rassie is pathetic- these unhinged lunatics need help. 

Congrats to Rassie and the team for a great win and standing up for themselves and South Africa. 



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Beeno1Captain40,032 posts
04 Aug 2021, 11:51
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04 Aug 2021, 11:51#35

The video was GREAT and IT was the Video that shattered the ongoing cover up by the IRB of incompetent Crooked refs.

It was the video that was the masterstroke. 

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Saffolk Captain30,741 posts
04 Aug 2021, 12:11
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04 Aug 2021, 12:11#36
Well of course the support would be SA’n and that’s what counts. We could hardly except the UK, Oz or NZ to support Rassie but amongst those countries are a few profile rugby people who see past their rivalry and have come out in support of Rassie
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SebPro2,680 posts
04 Aug 2021, 12:14
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04 Aug 2021, 12:14#37

Rassie, jou Staatmaker!

Love it when a person stands up against the bureaucratic status quo in a objective way (not subjective).

Some people have intutitive ability to spot integrity, some don't.

It's a rare commodity today in politics when legal structures favour the transgressor more than the victim... just look at SA Govt...criminals rule and make bureaucratic red tape on small issues that distracts the bigger more serious issues.

Trouble is we have become insensitive and conditioned to it...might is not right, right is might. A principle that is long forgotten.

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DbDraadCaptain26,388 posts
04 Aug 2021, 12:17
#38
04 Aug 2021, 12:17#38

...and a few Saffas against him, like on this board...it's a divisive subject...some people are happy with the way things are...some want change.

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Saffolk Captain30,741 posts
04 Aug 2021, 12:22
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04 Aug 2021, 12:22#39
There are just too many shit decisions and saying it’s part of the game is a lame excuse given the technology available
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RooinekCaptain18,117 posts
04 Aug 2021, 12:28
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04 Aug 2021, 12:28#40

I see, so basically what you're saying then is that the elite refs on the World Rugby board are not good enough for you.

Okay, so who should replace them then . . . the second best refs? Who are these people that you think can do a better job than the best refs in the world?

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