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Quotas and money will drive Viljoen to NZ

Started by Beeno118 REPLIES409 VIEWS· 21 Apr 2015, 21:50
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Ex Sport 24


ape Town - The quota system in South African cricket and greater earning potential may force Highveld Lions fast bowler Hardus Viljoen to opt for greener pastures.

Viljoen, 26, took the second-most wickets in the domestic Sunfoil Series this past season, taking 39 scalps at an average of 20.43 to help the Lions lift the four-day title.

According to the ESPNcricinfo website, Viljoen has been in discussion with New Zealand side, Central Districts, and could consider moving there to continue his career.

Lions CEO Greg Fredericks said they are aware of the negotiations between Viljoen and the New Zealand side, but they are eager to keep him in Johannesburg, more so following the confirmation that star bowler Chris Morris has moved north of the Jukskei and will represent the Titans next season.

However, there is a quota system in South African domestic cricket and from the 2015/16 season there must be six players of colour in all starting XIs at franchise level. Three of those six players of colour, must also be African players.

While there is no official quota system at national team level, there is a target of four players of colour that Proteas coach Russell Domingo is expected to adhere to.

This makes Viljoen’s chances of making the national team very slim and a move to New Zealand may well be the right move to further his career, both internationally and financially.

Former Proteas fast bowler, Fanie de Villiers, is facilitating the talks between Viljoen and Central Districts, whose head coach, Heinrich Malan, played in South Africa.

De Villiers recently told The Citizen newspaper that he believed Viljoen will have better opportunities in New Zealand.

"Patriotism is out the door," said De Villiers.

"He's been the leading wicket-taker over the last few seasons, but he hasn't played for South Africa because of the dynamics of the team. Hardus is a very strong and a very good fast bowler who can bowl at 150km/h and he will be sought after in New Zealand and Australia."

De Villiers added that ensuring proper remuneration was also a key motivator for Viljoen seeking the move, with the Highveld Lions recognising as much, and giving their assurance that they will compensate him as best they can.

Viljoen may struggle to make New Zealand’s national team, considering he would be 31 when he becomes eligible to play for the Black Caps in 2021.


What a disgusting state of affairs we have here!!!! 

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22 Apr 2015, 11:33
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22 Apr 2015, 11:33#2

Fucking disgusting......its only a matter of time before we are on par with Zim when it comes to rugby and cricket.


All the white kids are going to leave  

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22 Apr 2015, 11:45
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22 Apr 2015, 11:45#3
 Have you not seen what the ARU just did ? Overseas players can be selected, as long as they have more than 60 Caps and a contract with them spanning more than 7 years. This has to end now. It is wrecking the sport. 
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22 Apr 2015, 12:05
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22 Apr 2015, 12:05#4
Well sadly in SA if as a white kid you don't stand much of a chance of being selected based on blatant racism, these poor kids have no alternative but to move overseas......I really feel for our youngsters  
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22 Apr 2015, 12:24
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22 Apr 2015, 12:24#5
 And I am sorry about that....and the terrible situation in SA.
But I am also concerned about the impact it has on the youngsters here, who may lose out as a consequence. 
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22 Apr 2015, 12:29
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22 Apr 2015, 12:29#6

Sadly our useless racist politicians don't give a toss either way.


I think I need to set up an agency tapping into all this young SA talent that will be forced to move thanks to the racism at home  

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22 Apr 2015, 12:41
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Well, I think it is a very worrying time for SA  

Not sure about that.....I can foresee the clamping down of foreign movements in dear old Blighty. Folk really are at breaking point, a dangerous time, I think, especially with the illegal immigrant/migrant ship situation in the Med. Up to a million of those expected to hit our shores this summer..... 
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22 Apr 2015, 12:48
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They wont put a stop to sportsman coming......nor will they regarding immigrants.....they never have in the past, they wont start now.......people were far less tolerant years ago and nothing was done then.


Blighty is far too passive and PC to ever stop immigrants......especially legal ones.  

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22 Apr 2015, 12:58
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 Quotas are rampant throughout the job market as well. Hence there can be no criticism of folk leaving.At UCT they are trying toi get rid of white academics and admin staff and all that this entails. Looks as if EFF are busy on campus.Europe has no option but to clamp down. The trouble brewing here is due to 5 million foreigners coming to SA and putting enormous starin on infrastructure and job opportunities.It is safe to say poverety in SA will never be overcome given this influx from failed states to the north of us.The mind boggels at the stupidity at play.
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22 Apr 2015, 13:40
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22 Apr 2015, 13:40#10
 I don't know, Saffex. I think we have reached breaking point. 

And, with regards the ships, they are illegal immigrants. And we have no obligation to take in more Bangladeshi's, Eritreans, Somalians etc etc. So they could be deported straight back from Turkey/Greece/Italy etc. 
Patience is being lost at a rapid rate  
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22 Apr 2015, 13:48
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22 Apr 2015, 13:48#11
Nothing will change.......you lot are far too soft when it comes to putting your foot down to the plight of others......will never happen  
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22 Apr 2015, 14:19
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22 Apr 2015, 14:19#12
 Yes, I know you think I am a soft touch  
But I think we are reaching crisis point here....
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22 Apr 2015, 14:50
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22 Apr 2015, 14:50#13
Yeah yeah  
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22 Apr 2015, 14:57
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22 Apr 2015, 14:57#14
 Becs if what you say is true are you and the like minded POMs voting UKIP?
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22 Apr 2015, 15:05
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. . . or the National Front?
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22 Apr 2015, 16:46
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 I am certainly not voting for either of the things you suggest. In fact, I may not vote at all.All parties are a bunch of self serving buffoons who have no idea how to get us out if the mess Blair and Brown created and Cameron has perpetuated, if indeed they even care to try. 
I will see if there is a decent Independant candidate in my neck of the woods.If not, I will not vote at all. 


And I am afraid that some poor folk will bear the brunt of people's anger soon and that is not acceptable to me at all. But it seems inevitable when the politicians won't listen  Either that or Civil War......not sure if I am a Roundhead or a Cavialier ( much prefer the latter's dandiness, but I do predominantly wear black, so I suppose it's the former for me !  ) 
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22 Apr 2015, 17:25
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You could always vote Labour and have Miliband as your PM......the biggest drip I have seen since Nerds Vacation.......the man is nerd personified......Labour must be a bunch of idiots having such a wet as their leader  
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 He is a Marxist, a very dangerous Nerd. And they are an incompetent bunch, most of the same who wrecked the country last time around ! He was one of the Treasury who spent all our money and, of course, he did stab his big bro in the back to become Labour leader....bit of steel in the Nerd yet !! They are also full of old members of the Paedophile  Information Exchange , that wanted to make that disgusting practice legal in the 70's. Even dear old Hartiet Harmen...the voice of us womenfolk everywhere ! And they are happy to protect their old bunch who should be in prison, and should have been for many years, as part of this disgusting cover up. To say I am appalled with these people puts it mildly. 
Actually, Saffex, I am coming round to beat you up first when the tide turns against the " foreign settler "....be afraid  
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22 Apr 2015, 20:36
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 The issue of quotas is becoming a real disaster.   In cricket we saw what happened in the Philander case - where a player who is not really matchfit is forced into the team in the place of a well-performing player.  The liars at SAC are caught out as liars whenever they open their mouths.
However, on franchise level the position is as follows:
*   Not more than 5 whites are allowed in the starting 11*   There shall be 6 players from other race-groups*   Of the 6 players at least 3 shall be Blacks
The selections are entirely based on racial classification and has nothing to do with the merit of the players involved.   If there are no reasonable Black or coloured players available as bowlers and the Whites are selected in that category, players like De Villiers, Du Plessis, Miller and Rossouw could easily be left out on franchise level.
On school level it is even worse - so sport (especially cricket)  is going to die insofar as White kids are concerned.    The opportunity for them to develop on that level is virtually non-existent.
The only way they can develop is to leave the country at an early age and try to develop their talents in England, New Zealand or Australia.  
The further problem is that SA over the next five years are going to take a dive on international team ratings and in ten years time we may not even be a test playing country.   That is sure to happen because of race being the only criterium for team selection.
Rugby is not that far behind and the norm - that is kept not so secret is that there should be at least 12 players of colour in each squad of 23 and at least 7 of them shall be in the team starting line-ups.   The result will be a disaster for franchise teams and worse for the Springboks.   
I do not think that young players should waste their time and talents by staying in SA.   The sooner they leave the country and start building their sporting careers in foreign countries - where racial selection of teams is not a consideration - the better it will be for them.   The problem is that a high number of youngsters has already played for the Springboks or for the SA Under 20 team and will not be eligible for international selection elsewhere.
              
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