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Reds v Sharks [Time Stamps]

Started by DezertFox9 REPLIES307 VIEWS· 27 May 2015, 11:23
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DezertFoxPro2,288 posts
27 May 2015, 11:23
#1
27 May 2015, 11:23#1

Francois Steyn

First Half

00:35 - R6 carries it up. Frans pulls inside with Alberts to stop ball-carrier.Pulls out quickly once Alberts establishes forward drive repelling attacker, thereby taking up defensive position quickly and marshaling defensive line.

04:53 - Sharks LO; Back. Reds rush up quickly in defence and surround Frans before he even gets the ball, but smartly gets the ball out to Coetzee sending him in whole outside primary rushers and giving Sharks forward momentum.

05:22 - Sharks take the ball to the sideline to create width, but produce slow ball. Steyn sends high ball in behind rushing defenders R11 fields, but Sharks defenders are already upon the Reds and affect a charge down.

06:28 - Sharks Penalty; Steyn shot at goal successful.

08:40 - R12 carries up and pulls through Frans, Coetzee puts him down and nearly wins turnover.

10:04 - R12 carries up. Frans ready to make contact, but attacker pulls away to his outside taking cluster of defenders. No tackle attempted.

11:00 - Frans covering the left shoulder of R11 who offloads in the tackle. Frans immediately wraps up R12 and releases quickly to take up defensive position once attacker starts going to ground.

11:10 - Frans shadows team mates as turnover is won. Quickly takes up scrummy position sending a nice flat pass out to Coetzee.

14:01 - Ball sent out to the right to 10, who passes to Frans out wide. Steyn, with defenders in his face, darts inside and ghosts around three forwards. Tackled thereafter by R1 but offloads back to where he ran from to S9. Quickly takes up defensive position.

14:33 - Steyn sends a nice flat pass to S15 which gets sets him free on the outside of R14 and down the touchline.

17:06 - Sharks Try. Steyn conversion successful.

18:18 - Reds attack ruck fringe quickly and Steyn darts inside with low tackle to take down R13 back into Sharks defenders and they win penalty for holding on by Reds.

19:56 - Steyn chases a chip by S10 into Reds 22 and brings down R9 with ball. Sharks win penalty for earlier infringement.

22:12 - S10 miss pass (missing S12) to S11. S11 held up in tackle and driven backwards, gets offload out to Steyn who chips in behind defence and sets up lineout in Reds 22.

28:10 - Sharks penalty. Steyn kick at goal successful.

28:58 - Reds pass quickly with long pass to get around the edge of Sharks defensive line, JP shuts off the edge so R8 cuts inside to attack inside shoulder of Steyn, who holds him up and drives him down. R7 assists in holding up R8 for a brief moment to allow Reds to get to breakdown quickly enough to retain possession, this from an offside position! Not picked up from the Ref. Prevented Steyn from grounding R8 early.

29:03 - Steyn attempts to disrupt R9 pass from ruck base.

32:43 - Steyn joins ruck and helps clean up ball after won turnover.

33:41 - R12 runs at outside shoulder of Steyn, who holds him up and brings him down and disrupts R12 offload attempt.

34:43 - Steyn part of kick chase and joins ruck to pressure Reds.

34:55 - Quickly out of ruck to cover blindside as he shadows the two primary defenders. R11 is caught as he skins the defenders but is brought to ground by Steyn. Frans penalized for not rolling away. Replay (49:01 on video time) shows Steyn tried to get away but was trapped by Reds support to breakdown.

38:50 - Sharks penalty. Steyn kick at goal successful.

39:34 - R13 engages Steyn and holds him then passes inside to R15 running theopposite direction. Steyn was guarding against both and protecting his channel well.

Second Half

41:55 - Steyn pass to S14. Guards subsequent ruck. Retreats quickly in defence as S9's pass is disrupted by Reds.

42:18 - Steyn loses his footing attempting the drop kick. Reds get ball.

42:33 - Reds breakout down touchline. Steyn wraps up R6 holding him up and attacking the ball with Bicmarck. Sharks win penalty.

43:40 - S9 loses the ball. Steyn initially tries to get loose ball, but then takes up defensive position immediately on the outside.

45:15 - Steyn rushes quickly on the outside edge of the defense and subsequently shadows defenderson his outside protecting against the break.

53:44 - Scrum reds. R15 steps inside Steyn as he drifts across out wide and drags the inside supporting defender

57:50 - Reds breakout down the touchline, Steyn however has R11 well covered and brings him down as he shadowed the defenders on his outside.




 


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DezertFoxPro2,288 posts
27 May 2015, 11:28
#2
27 May 2015, 11:28#2
Credit must go out to Bismarck who had an outstanding game. I know the Reds have been weak at the breakdown all season, but even so, he was very fired up and had a complete game. Was lucky to get away with a couple of skew throws, but was highly effective in everything else. I often criticized his inability to dominate collisions as a ball-carrier because of his upright body position in contact, he utilized this to his advantage and got several offloads out.

Alberts made some big tackles but wasn't seen very often thereafter.

Cronje looks the best bet at 10, was very much more effective at 10 than the others over the last couple of years.

Notes on Frans: His positioning on defense was impeccable. He was very quick into position, his decision making was outstanding, his communication was very good, strong leadership presence. A solid showing at 12. Went a long way to solidifying the 10-12-13 axis.
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clevermikeCoach57,555 posts
27 May 2015, 11:50
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27 May 2015, 11:50#3
 Then how come he made only 5 tackles and missed 3 altogether.  You hid the missed tackles away as if it did not happen and multiply the number of tackles made.  .  Virtually 50% of the descriptions relates to Steyn taking up defensive positions - what makes that special since all centers do take up defensive positions?
This form of descriptions on what happened on the field of play turns performance assessment into a farce - since it basically comprises praise-singing and not effective rugby descriptions on what happened on the field of play.  Nothing different expected.       
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DezertFoxPro2,288 posts
27 May 2015, 11:54
#4
27 May 2015, 11:54#4
I haven't read the stats, I just watched the game. If the stats are different then they are in direct opposition to game footage. You can go with your little numbers in Kamp Mikeschwitz but I will go with the game footage. It won't be the first, second, third, or even fifteenth time you would have been wrongly misguided by poorly collected stats! I keep telling you, stats cannot tell you what happened. They tell you very little, if anything. Especially on defence. 

I note the taking up of positions, because that is important. I have done it for all three centres looked at to note how quickly they realign themselves in defence. That's very important. 
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clevermikeCoach57,555 posts
27 May 2015, 12:03
#5
27 May 2015, 12:03#5
 BSter
You saw what you wanted to see and missed the rest.   Sure taking up positions is essential - but in the De Allende case he is criticized for that and in the case of Steyn he is praised.   That is what makes your contributions so funny - it is hilarious to see to what level you will descend in dealing with players you idolize and those you criticize.  
The stats from four data bases - done on a scientific basis - are all wrong, you are correct.  That is the sign of lunacy - every lunatic thinks he is right, all other people are mad.  
Better to ignore drivel like that and do not respond to the drivel of the idiots on this site.    
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DezertFoxPro2,288 posts
27 May 2015, 12:07
#6
27 May 2015, 12:07#6
"De Allende case he is criticized for that and in the case of Steyn he is praised."
I haven't criticized Damian for taking up defensive positions quickly, why would I? That's obviously something I'd be very positive about. I have criticized him for shooting out of the line aimlessly and putting the Stormers defence in a disadvantageous position. I don't think that's in anyway unreasonable. He has absolutely no sense for line integrity at 12, he is too reactive and passive. At times he looks like he packs self-awareness. 
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RooinekCaptain18,117 posts
27 May 2015, 12:19
#7
27 May 2015, 12:19#7
LeTwat, why have you conveniently left out minute 51 . . . you know, when Samu Kerevi powered over for a try and Frans chickened out of the tackle . . . why doesn't that particular incident feature among your laughably stupid and biased "time stamps"?

LMAO!

Just shows how selective and biased Letwat is and how much store people should set by his naive and blinkered views. His "time stamps" regarding Damian de Allende are even more biased and stupid . . . as if putting minutes to the same idiotic comments somehow give them more credibility. What a joke!
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DezertFoxPro2,288 posts
27 May 2015, 14:51
#8
27 May 2015, 14:51#8
Frans rushed out but ball went to player well outside of him who subsequently ran right at JP and dragged him over the line. Frans played no part in that attacking movement so I didn't record it, just as I did with Damian! You speak of bias whilst claiming Frans chickened out, something he clearly didn't do as he was ready to shutdown R5 directly in front of him! It was a cut pass which held Frans in place and then release R12. Man this is easy pickings! Who has no rugby knowledge?
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clevermikeCoach57,555 posts
27 May 2015, 14:59
#9
27 May 2015, 14:59#9
 A Lunatic thinks that all other people are insane - he is the only sane person in the world.   In this case you have the equally prejudiced Mozart and his equally insane ideas about rugby on your side - nobody else would fall for it.  
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DezertFoxPro2,288 posts
27 May 2015, 15:16
#10
27 May 2015, 15:16#10
All is as I said it was.
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