Saffex - Earl Silky Hands Jantjies

Saffex

I am not finished withyou about the above so-called fly half,  Let me quote some of your brilliant comments on Earl Silky Hands:-

"At least the kid is rugby player, has good hands, good feet and an eye for a gap. The only thing Morne has is a boot, no skill at all.

Jantjies is a class act and Mike you are delusional if you conclude that he failed against NZ - in fact you will find that every report on his performance against NZ was positive."

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"Mike you are out of touch with reality. Jantjies sorted out his defensive issues some time back - his defence has been damn good for some time now.

He remains one of our best attacking/creative flyhalves in SA and has a damn good boot on him. He will thrive for the Stormers this year and cement his place in the Bok squad".

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"I dont care at what level Joel played for that does not entitle him to conclude that Jantjies skills are manufactured when it is clear that its instinctive. If Joel did say this then he is a bloody fool.

As for his defence, its a given fact that it improved markedlyl last year and one or two missed tackles dont define a player for crying out loud. Provide stats that confirm he missed as many tackles as you claim in 2012. I dispute it."

"When it comes to Jantjies, you speak a load of crap and I'm going to enjoy rubbing your nose in it this year"

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Now lets get back to this season.   Jantjies had two iffy and average games and three disaters,   He has good hands and feet - but that deserted him competely in the few games he played in this year.  Knocking ons and charge down kicks is dealt with  by the simple description "it happems".  Sure it happens to the seond team flyalf of Witgatwortekfontein - not on this level - or it is supposed not to happen when Jantjies made it his stock in trade.

His disastrous performances cost the Stormers at least three of the five games they played in this year.   Are you enjoying it as I rub you nose in the shit Jantjies produced thus far this season?

Look here you ignorant twit, he had a poor game on Sat, at least I am man enough to admit that. But lets be realistic here, the only reason he looked bad was because he dropped two balls, one was passed way above his head.

Those dropped passes and charge down made him look bad, when in reality the rest of his game was fine. He tackled well and was no worse than Morne or Francis in general play.

He was solid in the games prior to this and was SA's best 10 last week. One poor game does not make him a crap player, you thick prick

Saffex

Keep on dreaming about how good the idiot was on Saturday,  And you can be assured I enjoy the rubbing nose in it part.   Earl Silky Hand never had a good game this year.   A did a few good things in games this year - but cancelled out those good things with bad plays the rest of the same games.

Hell I cannot believe that you still believe in Jantjies as a suitable player on Super 15 level and that :it happens: cancel out all his deficiencies.

I think a one-way ticket to Johannesburg is the only way out in this case,

Jantjies had a great game against the Brumbies - FACT. Damn right I rate this kid, he is a class act. One average game does not define him.

Saffex

You surely mean one average game - and four poor games in this case.   back to Johannesburg to play Vodacom Rugby for this one.  The Stormers cannot afford further disasters.

If he plays on Saturday Labuschagne and Brussow would have a field day and Useless De Jong would not be able to kill off the backline moves that would follow those two.  A loss in Bloemfontein in that case is highly likely.

But then - I am not a Stormers fan and do not care what really happen to that hapless team.  As an SA supporter = the disaters hurt badly.  

Saffex

You surely mean one average game - and four poor games in this case.   back to Johannesburg to play Vodacom Rugby for this one.  The Stormers cannot afford further disasters.

If he plays on Saturday Labuschagne and Brussow would have a field day and Useless De Jong would not be able to kill off the backline moves that would follow those two.  A loss in Bloemfontein in that case is highly likely.

But then - I am not a Stormers fan and do not care what really happen to that hapless team.  As an SA supporter = the disaters hurt badly.  

No DomMike he started with a solid game, got better each week, culminating in a great game against the Brumbies.....he let himself and his team down on Sat

Saffex

Your idea about solid games are warped - especially when it concerns players like Jantjies, Steyn and Hougaard.

Just one question that baffled me all along.   Steyn was grossly overweight, slow and unfit when he joined the Sharks in January - 118 kgs.   He got down to 114 kgs and was not fit as well at the time of the game against the Stormers - he eventually got to 110 kgs - when it was evident that he could not continue as center anymore.   How could there have been a drop in form and fitness later in the series when his weight got down to 110 kgs.    If he ws unfit at 110 kgs - it stands to reason that he was even more so at 114 kgs.   How did you get to his sudden drop in form after the Stormers game?   Please explain bearing in mind the porky situation.  .  

 Mike get this into your stupid head, I had no issue with Frans's form at all. He was good in his first two games and then slipped along with the whole of the Sharks side in the next two games.

Anyone pointing fingers at Frans alone has to be an ignorant twit. I would NEVER have left Frans out of the side in favour of the useless Bosman. But if Plum said he needed conditioning then fair enough.......but that still would not have stopped me selecting Frans at 12, given I would NEVER select Bosman there.

Had Whitehead been fit, I would have given Frans the week off. Frans was no better or worse than his team mates against the Kings and the Brumbies - FACT.

But you are far too stupid to comprehend all these facts. You in fact told us how great Bosman was, when in fact he did stuff all, which you had to admit after you second viewing - you know stuff all DomMike

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It really is amazing - Steyn at 114 kgs was fit and at 110 kgs he needs conditioning,   His contribution to games killed the backline all along and it was evident in the Kings test that the backline functioned better without him.   The same can be said of the Brumbies game - after his replacement the functioning of the backline was much better and he Sharks clawed back at least a try after he stopped crashballing.  

The Sharks played a different rgame against the Rebels and at least Bosman made a positive contribution to one try scored and also converted the tries after Lambie missed penalties,    Bosman in fact had a good passing game - mostly back to the loosies.  Steyn crashballed and if he ever passed balls,  the defenders were on top of the recipients - because Steyn was so slow off the mark and his rare  passing was also slow 

Please accept that his days of playing at center is done and dusted.   He has just too many negatives to even be a remote consideration.

DomMike, do you think that by lying, that your argument would carry more weight? Where did you suck 114kg from?

Bosman was bloody useless in a one sided game. You salivating over his passing to forwards as testament to a good performance is a laugh. Talk about clutching at straws. Bosman was kak as he is a kak player, always has been, always will be.

So according to you Frans's days as a centre are done - wow where did you drag that shit from. I'll be reminding you of this ignorant declaration the next time he turns out at 12 for the Boks.

DomMike, Frans will be the Bok 12 and Jean will be the 13........its a given

Saffex

OK - let me explain again.   Plumtree said that Steyn was 118kgs when he joined the team in January.   In early February I went to the game in Pietermaritzburg and a guy sitting near us when we discussed Steyn said he was weighing 115 kgs.   A month later Plumtree said he now was weighing 110 kgs.   What did he way in the first game against the Cheetahs?    My estimate of 114 kgs was generous - he probably was 115 to 116 kgs.  He defiitely did no come down by 8 kgs in one month - that is for bloody sure.

Ok - I won't be able to do anything if Meyer is so stupid to select Steyn at 12 again - but I will be free to say one clear thing:-

"Welcome back - dead Springbok backline".   and I would be realsitic and expect nothing from that backline at all.

Let me be explicit too - since the fat, unift, slow and useless Francois Steyn returned from France - he was a kak player - I was severly disappointed to see what he really produced and has given up hope on the bugger.

Mike stop speaking kak, you were telling us how good Frans was looking in those warm up games......he carried that form into his first two S15 games of the season. In week 1 he was named in the SA side of the week. In week 2 he was named in the S15 side of the week, which included all the sides......he was good in those first two games - FACT

Meyer and Plum have enough brains to invest in the class of Frans at 12.......we need to see a fit Frans beating the defender, taking contact and offloading like he did in that first S15 game of the year - it was perfect

Saffex

I think Plumtree found out what Steyn is producing and we will see how he handles Steyn in future.

Now back to Earl Silky Hands Jantjies.   I looked at those two knock-ons again.   Jantjies saw the approaching defenders and was expecting a really hard tackle.  The little coward panicked and knocked on the ball as a result.  Class Act that one!!!!!!!

One of those passes to Jantjies was piss poor, it was way over his head. He should have taken it, but it was still a crap pass. Duvehage was crap, Groom should have started

Saffex

Crap - the first pass was about neck high - not way over his head.   The lttle coward saw the defenderders coming and the knock-on was inevitable.  

OK - next defence is here.  We are now past the "it happens" stageand has reached the 'blame any other player stage" of dicussions

Crap it was above his head. He dropped two balls it happens, the rest of his game was fine. He was no better or worse than players like Joe, de Jongh or Duvenhage on the day

Saffex

I did say I can give you the name of a good opticiam - but he is in SA.  Is there any in England - you need urgent help in seeing reality.

 My eyes are spot on, they told me Jantjies was no worse or better than Duvenhage, de Jongh, Aplon or Joe on the night - FACT

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Elswhere I gave the info on the work rate of players in the Cheetahs back row - especially the flanks.   A bloke like Labuschagne did more tackles than was done by the two Stormer flanks combined amd he had more turnovers than the Stormers flanks combined did.

The Cheetahs knows Jantjies inside out and they are going to exploit his weaknesses continuously.  WE will see more knock-ons on Saturday than the past Saturday and more attacks in the channel than in all previous games.  Jantjies will crack again - like he did so often this year and we can continue the discussion next week.

Irrespective of what you say - Jantjies remains the worst flyhalf in Super 15 this year and it will be proven again on Saturday.

The chances of Jantjies knocking the ball on again is about a big fat zero. Jantjies was our BEST 10 in the week the Stormers played the Brumbies - FACT

Saffex

"So toe soos 'n klei-os se gat"  - that description fits you 100%.   Can you not see and underatnd that Jantjies knocks on balls - drops them to the ground or just chickens out - when he sees he is going to be tackled hard.   That is why he stands deeper in the channel than your celebrated friend Morne Steyn.   The Cheetahs are not going to be kind to that little coward - believe me.

Thw Cheetahs loosies - especially Labuschagne - is going to target him and carry him back - holding the ball off the ground for 10 meters thus affecting a turnover or penalty and - if not - he will be tackled hard.  The end result woud be the chicken will knock on the ball out of  sheer cowradice and then the Stormers players will do what the Springboks did in the Sowet test - ignore him on the field of play and not pass balls to him.  

DomMike, Jantjies has only dropped two balls to date, one of which was a damn poor pass from his 9, that was way over his head.

If Jantjies was a chicken, the Saders and Brumbies would have penetrated his channel and taken him out. Fact is the little man put his body on the line and took the knocks. Thats called bravery