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SBW and Carter left out of South Africa trip; NZ Herald

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JW
Just_winCaptain18,570 posts
18 Jul 2015, 08:29
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18 Jul 2015, 08:29#1

Sonny Bill Williams and Dan Carter are the two most high profile omissions from the 31-man All Blacks squad named today to travel to South Africa.

Waisake Naholo has also been ruled out with a broken leg, while Lima Sopoaga, Colin Slade and Beauden Barrett will provide the options at first five.

The squad flies out to South Africa this morning, stopping over in Sydney before arriving in Johannesburg on Sunday evening. The All Blacks play South Africa at Emirates Airline (formerly Ellis) Park on Saturday 25 July.

All Blacks Head Coach Steve Hansen said: "In deciding on the squad to travel to South Africa, the selectors based their selections on three criteria. Firstly, we have picked experienced players who are well aware of the challenge of playing South Africa at home.

Secondly, we want to give some other players the opportunity to see how they cope under the extreme pressure of playing South Africa; and thirdly, we took into consideration the fact that some players in the squad could do with having a break for various reasons, so they will be staying home to freshen up."

All players who are remaining in New Zealand will be given individual training programmes to work on and will reassemble with the rest of squad in August and be available for selection for the Bledisloe Cup Tests.

The travelling squad is as follows:

Hookers: Dane Coles, Keven Mealamu and Codie Taylor
Props: Wyatt Crockett, Ben Franks, Owen Franks, Nepo Laulala and Tony Woodcock
Locks: James Broadhurst, Brodie Retallick, Luke Romano and Samuel Whitelock
Loose forwards: Jerome Kaino, Richie McCaw, Liam Messam, Kieran Read and Victor Vito 
Halfbacks: Andy Ellis, TJ Perenara and Aaron Smith
First five-eighths: Beauden Barrett, Colin Slade and Lima Sopoaga 
Midfielders: Ryan Crotty, Malakai Fekitoa, Ma'a Nonu and Conrad Smith
Outside backs: Israel Dagg, Charles Piutau, Julian Savea and Ben Smith

JW
Just_winCaptain18,570 posts
18 Jul 2015, 08:32
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18 Jul 2015, 08:32#2
Things must be pretty good if you can leave players like SBW and Carter at home when you take on the Boks at Ellis part. Hika Elliot still not selected
CL
clevermikeCoach57,555 posts
18 Jul 2015, 08:54
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18 Jul 2015, 08:54#3
 JW 
Thanks for posting the above.  I think Hansen is afraid that players like Carter and Williams can get injured in the hard graft at Ellis Park and would rather leave them at home.  I did not know about the broken leg situation of Naholo - a pity since that would rule them out of the WC as well.
In the case of Williams there is another problem namely De Allende - in the Super 15 game he did not look good in the Chiefs-Stormers game and De Allende was all over him. So maybe that is another reason for leaving him in New Zealand.
I would say the team the AB's would field would be the following:-
15  Ben Smith14  Charles Piutau13  Conrad Smith12  Ma'a Nonu11  Julian Savea10  Beauden Barrett 9   Aaron Smith 8   Kieran Read 7   Richie McCaw 6   Jerome Kaino 5   Sam Whitelock 4   Brodie Retallick 3   ?????????? 2   Dane Coles 1   ??????????
The props are immaterial - nothing of substance in the squad.  
Hika Elliot is a huge card risk - so that is likely the reason for his non-selection.        
SA
Saffolk Captain30,741 posts
18 Jul 2015, 09:13
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18 Jul 2015, 09:13#4
Franks at 3 is world class....I'd start Fekitoa at 13.....best 13 in the game 
SBW in the squad ahead of Crotty anyday 
JW
Just_winCaptain18,570 posts
18 Jul 2015, 09:52
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18 Jul 2015, 09:52#5
Very sporting of SBW to give de Allende a chance to improve his game, at this stage he must develop his confidence & being humiliated would not help 
Fekitoa, Barrett, A. Smith, C. Smith, B. Smith and a few others need to have a run. Hansen wants to continue to look at & develop Codie Taylor.
CL
clevermikeCoach57,555 posts
18 Jul 2015, 10:32
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18 Jul 2015, 10:32#6
 JW
More like Williams is to be spared further embarrassment in the case of De Allende.  
I am not sure they would play Fekitoa ahead of Conrad Smith at Ellis Park.   They may if Kriel remains in the team.   However, Meyer through his selections would be the AB's biggest ally and that is a fact. 
JW
Just_winCaptain18,570 posts
18 Jul 2015, 10:44
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18 Jul 2015, 10:44#7
 Yes we appreciate Meyer's selections he is a very considerate man, lol
Conrad will get a run but maybe Fekitoa will sub him. I know Hansen wants to give players a run to help them keep or develop their form and also see what some of the newer ones have to offer at test level.
sharkbok
sharkbokCaptain23,282 posts
18 Jul 2015, 14:54
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18 Jul 2015, 14:54#8
Carter is scared of Bismaark and crapping himself- and they could not pack enough nappies for the trip
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