Science vs Creation science . . .
You can't... simple
Beeno.. still waiting for your answer to the above questions
The trouble with all this is we are coming off such a low base. Childish questions like who created God stump some!!! Amazing really.That is why I prefer initially to see if the atheists are man enough to admit their darwinism is a complete hoax, is patent nonsense and that indeed science has proven that God exists. Laying a firm foundation to continue on.
Man "debating' with my pal rooitwit is hilarious. He pposts graphs showingh how stupid atheists are and now this clanger!
I have to say though for some odd reason I have a soft spot for ou rooitwit. He is a loveable rogue! So doggedly wrong! Hahahahahahahahahaha funniest post er I have ever encountered!
I see no foundation at all actually
Always some reason that we "just don't understand"
So what happened to working on Sunday?
Here are just a few of many amazing admissions about evolution:
Charles Darwin: "Long before the reader has arrived at this part of my work, a crowd of difficulties will have occurred to him. Some of them are so serious that to this day I can hardly reflect on them without being in some degree staggered; but, to the best of my judgment, the greater number are only apparent, and those that are real are not, I think fatal to the theory."
Toward the end of his life, Darwin openly admitted: "Not one change of species into another is on record.... We cannot prove that a single species has changed into another." (Darwin, Charles, My Life and Letters, Vol. 1. Page 2 10).
Thomas Huxley said that "evolution was not an established theory but a tentative hypothesis, an extremely valuable and even probable hypothesis, but a hypothesis none the less." (Himmelfarb, Gertrude, Darwin and the Darwinian Revolution, Doubleday and Co., New York, 1859, page 366).
Dr. Austin H. Clark, noted biologist of the Smithsonian Institute, stated: "There is no evidence which would show man developing step by step from lower forms of life. There is nothing to show that man was in any way connected with monkeys.... He appeared SUDDENLY and in substantially the same form as he is today.... There are no such things as missing links."
He also said, "So far as concerns the major groups of animals, the creationists appear to have the best of the argument. There is NOT THE SLIGHTEST EVIDENCE THAT ANY ONE OF THE MAJOR GROUPS AROSE FROM ANY OTHER. Each is a special animal complex, related more or less closely to all the rest, and appearing therefore as a species and distinct creation." (Meldau, Fred John, Witness Against Evolution, Christian Victory Publishing Co., Denver, Colo., 1953, page 39, 40, 73).
William Herschel (1738-1822), who discovered Uranus and built some of the world's greatest telescopes, said, "The undevout astronomer must be mad." (Cited by Henry M. Morris, 'Men of Science - Men of God' page30).
Professor Albert Fleishman, professor of Comparative Anatomy at Erlangen University, said, "The theory of evolution suffers from grave defects, which are becoming more and more apparent as time advances (Please note rooitwit you darwinian dinosaur!!!). It can no longer square with practical scientific knowledge, nor does it suffice for our theoretical grasp of the facts. The Darwinian theory of descent has not a single fact to confirm it in the realm of nature. It is not the result of scientific research, but purely the product of imagination." (Fleishman, Albert, Victoria Institute, Vol. 65, pages 194, 195).
Sir William Dawson, Canada's great geologist, said of evolution: "It is one of the strangest phenomena of humanity; it is utterly destitute of proof." (Dawson, Sir William, Story of Earth and Man, page 317).
And some more quotes (are the hapless atheists still rerading one wonders Hahahhahahaha):
"In fact, evolution became in a sense a scientific religion; almost all scientists have accepted it and many are prepared to `bend' their observations to fit in with it."—*H. Lipson, "A Physicist Looks at Evolution," Physics Bulletin, 31 (1980), p. 138.
"The problem of the origin of species has not advanced in the last 150 years. One hundred and fifty years have already passed during which it has been said that the evolution of the species is a fact but, without giving real proofs of it and without even a principle of explaining it. During the last one hundred and fifty years of research that has been carried out along this line [in order to prove the theory], there has been no discovery of anything. It is simply a repetition in different ways of what Darwin said in 1859. This lack of results is unforgivable in a day when molecular biology has really opened the veil covering the mystery of reproduction and heredity . . "Finally, there is only one attitude which is possible as I have just shown: It consists in affirming that intelligence comes before life. Many people will say this is not science, it is philosophy. The only thing I am interested in is fact, and this conclusion comes out of an analysis and observation of the facts."—*G. Salet, Hasard et Certitude: Le Transformisme devant la Biologie Actuelle (1973), p. 331.
" `Scientists who go about teaching that evolution is a fact of life are great con men, and the story they are telling may be the greatest hoax ever. In explaining evolution we do not have one iota of fact.' A tangled mishmash of guessing games and figure juggling [Tahmisian called it]."—*The Fresno Bee, August 20, 1959, p. 1-B [quoting T.N. Tahmisian, physiologist for the Atomic Energy Commission].
" `The theory [of evolution] is a scientific mistake.' "—*Louis Agassiz, quoted in H. Enoch, Evolution or Creation, (1966), p. 139. [Agassiz was a Harvard University professor and the pioneer in glaciation.]
"As by this theory, innumerable transitional forms must have existed. Why do we not find them embedded in the crust of the earth? Why is not all nature in confusion [of halfway species] instead of being, as we see them, well-defined species?"—*Charles Darwin, quoted in H. Enoch, Evolution or Creation (1966), p. 139. (hahahahahahhaha)
"It has been estimated that no fewer than 800 phrases in the subjunctive mood (such as `Let us assume,' or `We may well suppose,' etc.) are to be found between the covers of Darwin's Origin of Species alone."—L. Merson Davies [British scientist], Modern Science (1953), p. 7.
Dr. Robert A. Millikan, famous physicist and Nobel prize winner, said, "Everyone who reflects believes in God." (Millikan, Robert A., The Commentator, June 1937).
In an address to the American Chemical Society, he said: "The pathetic thing about it is that many scientists are trying to prove the doctrine of evolution, which no scientists can do."
Dr. George Wald, a Nobel prize winner, chooses to believe in evolution even though he said he regards it as a scientific impossibility. He says, "The only alternative to a spontaneous generation is a belief in supernatural creation...." (Wald, George, "Innovation and Biology," Scientific American, Vol. 199, Sept. 1958, page 100).(YUP THAT THEIR BIG PROBLEM AND WHY THEY CANT ADMIT THEY ARE INVOLVED IN THE GREATEST HOAX EVER!!!)
Dr. Wernher Von Braun, who masterminded the V-2 rocket of Germany in World War II and the space program of the United States for two decades, said in a speech at Taylor University: "The idea of an orderly universe is inconceivable without God -- the grandeur of the cosmos confirms the certainty of creation. One can't be exposed to the law and order of the universe without becoming aware of a divine intent." (Keith, Bill, Scopes II the Great Debate, Huntington House, 1985, page 55).
Richard Goldschmidt, Ph.D., Professor of Zoology, University of California, said, "Geographic variation as a model of species formation will not stand under thorough scientific investigation. Darwin's theory of natural selection has never had any proof .. yet it has been universally accepted. There may be wide diversification within the species (variations).. but the gap (between species) cannot be bridged .... Sub-species do not merge into the species either actually or ideally." (Keith, Bill, Scopes II the Great Debate, Huntington House, 1985, pages 55-56).(Why well because God created them each after their OWN KIND !! Well done science for catching up with the bible)
Dr. Warren Weaver, formerly chairman of the board of the American Association for the Advancement of Science, said, "Every new discovery of science is a further 'revelation' of the order which God has built into His universe." (Weaver, Warren, Look Magazine, April 5, 1955, page 30).
Sir Robert Boyd, Emeritus Professor of Physics at University College, London, says, "I worship an unseen God...getting to know him...changed my whole world-view". (God and the Scientists, CPO - Design & Print, page 2).
Gareth Jones, Head of the Anatomy and Structural Biology Department at the University of Otago (New Zealand), considers biblical truth as his "driving force". (Ibid., page 6).
Sam Berry who is Professor of Genetics at University College, London, has explained how his considerable research in Antarctica has made him "more and more convinced that God has revealed himself in both creation and the Bible". (Ibid., page 11).
Here are some links which contain a great deal of reading (some are virtual on-line books) which show that evolution is not only anti-scientific, but is actually an act of faith!
Well well well. I wonder if any poor atheist read thsi to the end. Congrats if you did and doubtless you are flat on your back and out for the count.
Oh foolish atheists isnt it time to wise up. You have been brain washed, duped and have reacted like puppets o n a s tring. Surely you can see the error of your ways?
Without any doubt Darwin thought that within a few years of his death, the fossil record would have demonstrated evolution to be a clear fact of our pre-history. The truth, of course, is that the fossil record has never shown evolution to be a viable proposition. Despite repeated hoaxes and exaggerated claims of 'missing link' finds, there is - in reality - nothing in the way of evidence to support this philosophy. But, again, the public are kept in the dark about this. A few weeks ago I read a local science teacher's 'guidelines on evolution' in which the incredible statement was made,
"Of course, we uphold evolution because of the evidence of fossils." Against this mis-information the famed paleontologist, Stephen Jay Gould has pointed out that,
"The fossil record with its abrupt transitions offers no support for gradual change...all paleontologists know that the fossil record contains precious little in the way of intermediate forms..."(Gould, 1977).
When we put this together with the fact that it is now believed that around 250 million fossils have now been catalogued, we can see that the lack of available fossils is certainly not the problem!(ITS MORE THAN A PROBLEM ITS A COMPLETE DISASTER FOR EVOLUTIONISTS))
In the face of this welter of evidence which does not support gradual change, one evolutionist, Niles Eldridge, in a moment of utter candour, wrote, "Evolution cannot forever be going on somewhere else. Yet that's how the fossil record has struck many a forlorn paleontologist looking to learn something about evolution."(Quoted by Philip Johnson, p60-61,Defeating Darwinism by Opening Minds, Inter-Varsity Press, 1997).
No, most knowledgeable scientists would smile with their tongues 'firmly in cheek' about our local science teacher's non-scientific assertion! Let me clearly state it here, lest there should be the slightest doubt: THE FOSSIL EVIDENCE DOES NOT SUPPORT EVOLUTION!
Another huge problem for devout evolutionists which has emerged over the last few years, is the discovery of DNA. DNA would have been an utter mystery to Darwin and if he had known about it in his day he may well have revised his teachings.
To be frank; DNA does not fit in with evolution - its as simple as that. Maybe the honest thing would have been for scientists to have jettisoned the theory of evolution there and then - upon the discovery of DNA - but just think what would have been involved in that: countless thousands of science teachers and lecturers would have had to be re-trained, countless thousands of scientific textbooks would have had to have been destroyed. And on and on it goes. Moreover, the scientific establishment would have suffered a massive 'loss of face'; would anybody ever be prepared to listen to scientists again? This would all have been a virtually impossible undertaking and the cost to our schools and universities would have been astronomical! So the 'scientific establishment' instead decided to somehow make DNA fit into the theory of evolution! One can't help being reminded of the old proverb: 'Oh what a tangled web we weave when we first set our hearts to deceive'!! Of course, I am not suggesting that the average scientist wants to deceive, evolutionary theory is simply the intellectual diet which they have been fed for a long time.
With it being proven there had to be a first cause to bring a universe from nothing and with darwinism blown out of the water and being described as the greates hoax ever where to for the poor atheist? Where can they hide in the face of all this overwhelming evidence. At the moment their main refuge is bluster but its wearing ever thinner. They have NO ANSWER .THIS ARTICLE IS A LITTLE OLD AND THINGS HAVE GOT WORSE AND WORSE FOR THE HAPLESS DARWINISTS.
Atheists isnt it time to thank Beeno for all his hard working is showing you the TRUTHGAME SET AND MATCH. ACTUALLY ITS A BIT OF A HOLLOW VICTORY AS THESE FOOLISH ATHEISTS WERE REALLY NO MATCH AT ALL. I HONESTLY CANT REALLY BLAME THEM TOO MUCH AS THEY HAD NOTHING TO WORK WITH. HOWEVER I DO FAULT THEM FOR ALL THEIR BLUSTER. AND NOT ADMITTING TO THE TRUTH.
BEENO GIVING A FAIR REPORT CARD RE THE VERY POOR PERFRORMANCE OF THE FOOLISH ATHEIS TS.
Now how about you attempting a real answer to the questions I posed. Let's not have a one way traffic. Lets just start with this. How does a universe come from nothing without an agent of first cause that is eternal. Can you or can you not answer this? I pose this question to all atheists as well.Also what did you think of all those quotes. Still think darwinism is not in huge trouble, that it is kaput?
Again bluster but no addressing the issue. Rooitwit down and out for the count.
Why oh why are you so GULLIBLE rooitwit, so brain washed. Answer the questions I posed. if you cant, abandon your athiestic position as it is the only honest thing to do. Why continue as a fool?
Duh-huhhh . . . why are evryone larfing at me?
Seems there were some very unsavoury aspects to his theory that are not well known.
Does that count?
Here goes . . . in your bible it says that God created the sun on the 4th day . . . well, strictly speaking it doesn't say "sun" but he creates two great lights, the greater light to rule the day and the lesser light to rule the night . . . so it's safe to assume that the greater light was in fact the sun. Is that right?
Okay, if that is the case and the sun was only created on day 4, how had the previous 3 days passed?
Still waiting for my Sunday question to be answered
He just keeps overlooking it
Poor Beeno
Beeno
Where did I say that I am an Atheist?
Where did I say the universe created itself from nothing?
If you are not an atheist what are you. I would be happy to retract incluing you undwr the fools section if so. Anything to reduce their numbers would be a step forward!
Stop being a smartie pants and just be staright forward and honest. You are entittled to your opinion however wrong it may be. atheits should be spelt with a small a to underline their insignnificanct numbers .
Kind of like when Norsemen saw lightening and heard thunder, it was automatically assumed that it was a god beating an anvil? As soon as knowledge was gained on what caused thunder and lightening, Thor disappeared.
The Abrahamic religions have survived because god's existence (at least for the likes of our resident 10 year old) is actually proven through complicated scientific principles that have not been otherwise discovered/proven yet ? The fact that scientists cannot prove with certainty how the universe came into existence is sufficient evidence that god exists for dimwits like Beeno?
Beeno. Is there any other verifiable physical existence to prove that god exists? Any remnant from the storybook? One ounce of anything at all ?
I have answered numerous question and will be happy to answer more but first give me a scientific reason how the universe came into being without an eternal first cause and how DNA came in to being. Also you can do the same re the simplest cell. Note Is said a scientific explanation not a rant or vain bluster.Currently its game set and match
I have been waiting for days. Yaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa awn.
So now answer my question. One little piece of physical evidence please. As you say no rant or proof through lack of evidence to prove the contrary. One OTHER tiny piece of substantive evidence.
Maybe if the phenomenally stupid old fart thought it through, it might actually dawn on him that the forum for non sports posts hadn't even been created then!
Wehe!
Moffie, go take a look at the other forums and name me a poster who has started more threads in the correct sections than me.
Go on then, egg-face, it's not a difficult task.
Probably too much to expect the dull-witted old coot to reach any kind of conclusion!
Waaaaaaaaaaaaaaaahahahahahaha!
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