Rassie Erasmus has backed Siya Kolisi to be his RWC 2019 Springbok captain "barring injury or something really bad going wrong".
Hopefully the Kolisi-bashers can accept this now and move on. Kolisi is a good captain and he's a decent flanker even if he isn't a specialist in either position. His form did dip a bit towards the end of the year but he was very tired and if he can play in the RWC with as much intensity as he showed in June then we'll be fine.
Let's support the guy.
I will always support a performing player - but this guy performances were iffy in most games played. However, he was no worse than Louw and in the last test in June and in the EOYT than Vermeulen.
Something needs to be done with upping the performances of him and of the no 8 and I hope it does lead to a better loosie combination. If that does happen I will be happy to support him as captain. If he behaves like a quota player - I will not support it as such. .
Anyone with half a brain cell and a grain of integrity would admit wee Kolisi is NO captain.
He understands the game and Eben and the rest of the team has his back, so he'll be fine.
He is a big back playing as a forward. Nothing more, nothing less. He wants open field running. All of his best work has been there in short spurts. That he will captain the team at the World Cup was obvious. There is absolutely no way Rassie could keep his job and demote Kolisi. As we have seen, merely subbing him is raising questions. Who'd want to be a Bok coach.
South Africa has a long record of playing non fetching flankers at 6...we like our hookers doing the fetching and some of the backs and the 8 playing over the ball on the deck...Nothing new. We like running flankers like Siya and Bobby and Joe van Niekerk...there are no such thing as a classic this or a classic that. You pic a team to complement each other...Rassie is close to the best ballanced team available ATM.
"And remember most recently when you jumped onto the NZ bandwagon when it seemed they were going to beat Ireland.....only for the Startung nobble to crush them.
The Jonah of predictors....LMAOFY!"
Except . . . ummmmmm . . . it wasn't me who predicted a NZ win, it was you, as I pointed out on this thread and anyone can see how you slunk away like the weak coward you are.
LMAO!
Down goes Moffie again! Not a good week so far!
Mozart
What are you talking about. Alberts was the most useless loosie ever playing for SA.. What counter-rucks are you talking about iro Alberts? Is this baloney dreamed up by you or AO? Schalk in his hay day was a good loosie - but never good at breakdowns. Juan Smith was also a good loosie - but not a turnover specialist.
We had Vermeulen - before his injury in 2015 a top class player and equally good in his first two tests in June and a flop subsequently.
Best advice - think before you write tripe on site.
Nah ... sorry Redneck ... no can do ... he's a quota ... one of many in the current Bok squad ... selected because he has a black skin ... nothing more ... and he knows it deep down inside.
He would have to be incredibly stupid to think he was selected as captain and our openside flank on merit.
As for his captaincy ... well ... lol ... running to one's subordinates for advic e says it all. Totally inept!
It's just another example of the white man jumping through hoops and doing his best to show the black hordes that we're nice guys.
It's pathetic.
We should be ridding ourselves of chumps like him ... not supporting it.
Redneck ... I understand your thinking and can see that supporting the Bok means everything to you ... no matter the cost ... even if it means compromising certain principals of fair play.
You have the right to support whomever you want ... I most certainly won't dictate to you who you should be cheering for.
As for me ... I have difficulty wrapping my head around that. To me talent, focused effort and hard work should be what brings the reward ... not one's race ... nor one's skin colour ... nor the age old argument of "previously disadvantaaaaaaaaged".
What you put in, you get out ... that is what I was taught as a kid.
The reality of quotas and affirmative action appointments cannot be ignored ... it is part of our society ... a society that claims to be non-racist ... and yet the colour white is a liability in our "non-racist" society.
I work with these fools everyday. They have to be helped through their daily tasks ... everyday ... and in the end receive massive increases, promotions ... etc ... to keep them on our books for certain tax benefits.
The black man lives on handouts ... hand outs given him by white folk ... to the point that he expects it now at every turn ... as if it's his right.
I am of the opinion that supporting this unfair practice, is the same as condoning it ... giving it one's blessing ... agreeing with the principal of racism. Our kids grow up to accept this evil as the norm.
That I can never do.
We see things very differently you and I.What's with 5 black players? Don't we need at least 11 at RWC ? The AAAA target's 50%, not 20%.
Mozart
You quoted Louw as a good breakdown specialist - he certainly was one up to 2015 - but since them he has become a liability. He in fact made 3 turnovers in ALL tests played - the much-maligned by you Du Toit made more.
Meyer had a loonie set of loosies - involving also Mohoje and initially Spies. H got Burger back in 2015 after serious illness and a two-year absence from Rugby. Burger was not one tenth the player he used to be and he was never made to be first receiver from the scrummie as Meyer tried to use him in the WC. Alberts was a serious joke as a loosie - he enver caused one possession turnover and him pushing off the ball the opposition forwards -as claimed by you may have happened in one test and never again. I can only remember foul-ups by him as a loosie and bad foul-ups at that, He was way too pace -deficient to get to breakdown balls anyway. When he did get to mauls he and Matfield wills tabnd behind mauls to trya nd get some credit for flashy displays - which also was a rarity. .
Coetzee was even more crazy in his loosie selectiosn - he varied between Mohoje and Cassiem an at one stage used Whiteley as well. Hopeless and totally inadequate.
With Louw andf Vermeulen both off the boil - as shown by Louw in all tests played and Vermeulen in the third English test and the EOYT tests - the only player deserving credit when playing as a loosie was Du Toit. The rest - inclusive of Kolisi was totally useless as a result of \declining performance levels and I cannot see any recovery from them in 2019.
Erasm us has decided on Kolisi at 6 and Du Toit at 7 - for the rest there si a problem at 8 and as a back-up loosie. I predict that both Louw and Vermeulen will not make the grade next year,
Rooitwit you change wi th any direction you imagine the wind to be blowing!!!
Haaaaaaahahahahahahaaa!!! Am I frustrating you. Sorry.
Redneck ... as I said ... I understand your point ... and I must add that I'm pleased to hear that you're not n favour of these enforced quotas.
If forced then I'd probably go for the two obvious in Dyantyi and Nkosi ... which we both agree on are there on merit.
Probably someone like Gelant ... and maybe Papier ... and at a push I would try Augustus at 8 or Marutllule as cover for hooker ...
The two wings would be an easy pick for the run on side ... however the remaining three would definitely be bench warmers.
How about you?
I take it Kolisi is ensured of his spot in your team ... the lesser of many evils I guess ... question is though, in which jumper? 6? 7?
I would love to see your match 23.
I presume that your actual preferences would be a smidge different to the quota enforced team, right?
Yes Louw was such a liability salvaging the French test with 3 turnovers.
He did more in that one game than Kolisi has all year. Of all the black players in the team, Kolisi is the least useful. Unless we trial him as a back, which is how he is trying to play anyway. Notice how Rassie often groups Kolisi with backs. When he is in a POD of forwards he is mostly roving.
That's an interesting team, Redneck ... especially at 7, 8, and 12.
Glad to see you haven't included Vermeulen and Louw.
Awesome tight 5 ... especially selecting Du Toit where he's most comfortable.
I forgot about Willemse.
Thomas Du Toit in as cover for the looehead. Couldn't agree more. He never impressed me at 3.
Am and Nyakane don't do it for me at all. It's best you keep them on the bench for 79 minutes.
Kolbe has shown he's up to it ... as small as he is. I know you've always been a fan.
50% Players of Colour. That means 12 POC's in 50% of the matches and 11 in the other 50%.
AO
No the test winning turnover was by De Allende preceding the try scored by Pollard.
Louw made 2 turnovers - not 3 as claimed by you. He made in total 3 turnovrs ion all tests played this year, The two he made was in defense - not attack.
I gave Louw credit for that - but he was BS for all the rest of the tests he played in.
Th idiocy of Mozart and AO reigns supreme again on this site. There ideas about what haoppens in matches are screwball stuff.
Th idiocy of Mozart and AO reigns supreme again on this site. There ideas about what haoppens in matches are screwball stuff.
Looks like the boks are set to become a 50% team with this Quota selection.
Kolisi is not a captain. Most of our previous captains were there on Merit, not this back line loafer.
How can Rassie endorse him, he showed no form all year bar a few good runs down the line and being helped in tackles that made his stats look good. Not to mention that he has not pilfered a single ball or ever try to get stuck in.
Seems to run out of breath to, bulked up to much and now suffering around the park to keep pace
