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Started by clevermike15 REPLIES538 VIEWS· 12 May 2015, 11:22
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clevermikeCoach57,555 posts
12 May 2015, 11:22
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12 May 2015, 11:22#1

The following from News24


" Pieter Rossouw is not leaving the Bulls for a role at Western Province, WP's Director of Rugby Gert Smal hasCONFIRMED.


The Bulls on Monday confirmed that Rossouw would be leaving them after the completion of this year’s Currie Cup to return to Cape Town.  The 43-year-old had been backline coach of the Bulls since 2008. 


Rossouw’s move back to the Cape led to rumours that he may have a job lined up at Western Province, the team he represented for most of his playingCAREER.

“It’s good to hear he wants to come to WP, but there is no vacancy at present. If something comes up, then we’ll look at it,” Smal told.  “When I was coach, Pieter was a wonderful player to work with. He was always eager to improve and always strived to be the best.”


Rossouw was a member of the Western Province team that won back-to-back Currie Cup titles in 2000 and 2001 under the tutelage of Smal.  ‘Slaptjips’PLAYED 43 Tests for the Boks between 1997 and 2003.


Gert Smal mentioned there is NO VACANCY at present - but it is general knowledge that Coetzee is leaving  for Japan before the end of this year.  I am not saying that anybody has offered any job to Slaptjips, but I doubt it very much if he did not smell the roses and think he has a chance to get a job from WP  after Coetzee has departed.    He may end up in the employ of WP in some capacity or another.

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sharkbokCaptain23,285 posts
14 May 2015, 14:14
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14 May 2015, 14:14#2
8 years as assistant coach at Bulls. I heard the Bulls had not yet offered an extension to his contract, but I think he allready has a job at WP. He may be ready to be head coach. He allways was an intelligent player- and we need those type of players to be coaches. Plus he was a backline player- not a forward trying to turn the backline into donkeys
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bluebokPro3,977 posts
14 May 2015, 15:04
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14 May 2015, 15:04#3
Maybe WP have finally realised that Flek doesn't know his arse from his elbo, and they've decided to bring in another back line coach? 
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RooinekCaptain18,117 posts
14 May 2015, 15:09
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14 May 2015, 15:09#4
"Plus he was a backline player- not a forward trying to turn the backline into donkeys."

Rather an ex-forward teaching the backline pansies to harden up than some mincing little ex-back pretending he knows anything about rucks, mauls and set pieces.

I mean really, what do backs know about proper rugby anyway? All backline posers ever do is make sure their hair is in place and lose hard-won possession by knocking on or kicking the ball away so that the tireless grafting forwards have to go back into the fray and try win the ball back again.

The difference between backs and forwards has been described as "piano players" vs "piano movers". I'll take a piano mover as my coach any day!
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clevermikeCoach57,555 posts
14 May 2015, 15:25
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14 May 2015, 15:25#5
Rooinek
I have a serious problem with having forwards as backline coaches or even attack coaches.   I have no problem having a forward as a head coach - but in the case  of the assistant coaches i would never suggest a forward being either the backline and/or the attack coach.
In the case of the Stormers there director of rugby was a top forward, so they may bring in Slaptjips as head coach, but I think the person with the best chance of landing Coetzee's job is most like Mitchell.         
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DbDraadCaptain26,388 posts
14 May 2015, 15:50
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14 May 2015, 15:50#6
Mike, John Dobson and Dawie Snyman are going to be Currie Cup coaches and according to  THIS  rather dated article, Eddie Jones might be the Stormers head coach next year. Much too early to be taking any rumors seriously ATM though. I hope they find a spot for Pieter. Although I rate both Dobson and Snyman highly I think it would be too big a step up for them to be considered for SR next year, even if they do well in the CC.
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CeradynePro9,374 posts
14 May 2015, 15:56
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14 May 2015, 15:56#7
 
Why would the Stormers want Pieter Rossouw? We have been told for ages how k@k the Bulls' backline is and how they stuff up talented young backline players...........
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clevermikeCoach57,555 posts
14 May 2015, 16:22
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14 May 2015, 16:22#8
 Ceradunce
Th Bulls backline is bedevilled by the fact that Ludeke has the final say and his side-kick Matfield is the attacking coach.  I know Matfield's main claim to fame is his moonlighting in the backline - but that still does not mean he knows anything about backline play. 
I am surprised Rossouw stayed as long as he did - with those two decrepit thinkers around he must have been frustrated years ago.
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ShezzaPro2,471 posts
14 May 2015, 16:28
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14 May 2015, 16:28#9
 Eddie Jones is coaching the Japanese Super Rugby team next year
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clevermikeCoach57,555 posts
14 May 2015, 16:41
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14 May 2015, 16:41#10
 DBDraad
I would not be surprised at all if Eddie Jones takes up the position of Head coach of the Stormers - Cape Town is a favourite place of many foreigners, who like to enjoy the art of elegant living.   As you say - it is way too early to predict anything - but I am sure that Slaptjips would not move to Cape Town without anything  waiting for him there.
Incidentally it would be interesting to see if Dawie Snyman gets promoted.   You mention him and it reminded me that his mother - who was married to a Ds Snyman - was actually a cousin of my father.   His grandmother - Aunt Maggie Pauw was a sister of my grandfather.   In the 1950's my grandfather sold his holiday home in Still Bay to Aunt Maggie Pauw on the condition that my grandparents would have the right to go to Still Bay on holiday once a year and stay in the home rent-free for a month - normally in March-April.   The home is still the holiday home of the Snyman family.
The sale came about because my mother's father had a better holiday home in Still Bay - the first double storey house there - and my parents used that home in preference to the present Snyman holiday home.                
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DbDraadCaptain26,388 posts
14 May 2015, 18:44
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14 May 2015, 18:44#11
 Mike, Dawie was one of the main drivers behind the Stilbaai touchies, which escalated into a whole coastal tournament of touchies on the south-eastern coast. Stilbaai was our holiday destination since I was a todler. My parents retired there about 25 years ago, but sadly my dad had to sell his house there about 10 years ago. They had to move closer to Cape Town for medical reasons. I saw Dawie there on numerous occasions.  He was one of my dad's rugby heroes. Is it the same Dawie coaching at WP, or his son? The Dawie Snyman I recall must be in his mid 60's not?
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DbDraadCaptain26,388 posts
14 May 2015, 18:47
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14 May 2015, 18:47#12
 OK, I checked, it is young Dawie. I'm sure his father also coached WP in the 80/90's?
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clevermikeCoach57,555 posts
14 May 2015, 21:10
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14 May 2015, 21:10#13
 Dawie Snyman senior was attached to Stellenbosch University and involved with the Matie team for years - however, you lose touch with people and you remember them as you have seen them many years ago and forget that they are also getting older.   
You know Stilbaai well - so I will tell you a story about the original Stilbaai.  The first permanent resident of Stilbaai was a chap by the name of John Saayman.   In the early years when my father was a kid a holiday in Stilbaai was a special event.   There was no shop in the place and the annual holiday comprised of a whole trek by ox wagon to Stilbaai.   They had to take cows for milking - chickens for eggs and meat - a few lambs for slaughter - spices galore and the inevitable few bottles of witblitz for medicine, etc. and obviously sugar and spices for making canned fish for the year.  
In the latter regard my father told me that one day may grandfather bought a huge fish for 18 pennies and the condition was that the fisherman would come and clean the fish at home.   Fishing those days entailed rowing out at about 2 o'clock in the morning and getting back 12 hours later - the fishermen were basically poor whites.  So when he brought the fish my grandfather found a small glass and poured it full to the rim with witblitz offering this to the very cold and wet fisherman.  He said "Dit sal my goed doen" and drank it in one go.   My father saw that and started wondering why people use the stuff since it was obviously not strong.  He took a glass poured some witblitz into it and tried to drink it - but instead of drinking it he ended up on his backside gasping for air.
However, another story my father told me was that my grandfather asked John Saayman to shoot a bush buck for him.   It was out of hunting season and obviously illegal - so the price for the shooting was a bottle of witblitz.   The shooting arrangements was a bit weird.  John Saayman had a few donkeys and they were used to plow a small field.   My father had to plough the field and crack a whip constantly.   The actual farm owner was sitting there watching the plowing and John Saayman shot the Bush Buck without him being aware of it.
The next problem was clear.  John Saayman said :  "Ons slag sommer die bok af  in die konsistorie van die kerksaal".   My  grandfather - being very religious - thought that would be sacrilege - so they decided to use the house of the local member of Parliament - then At Badenhorst (famous for the fact that he was a member of Parliament for 18 years and in that time never ever made a speech in Parliament).  So My father saw a light in the kitchen and thought the Badenhorst family had arrived - old At's daughter Anna was his first girl friend and he decided to go and see her.  When he got to the kitchen window he saw old John Saayman and my grandfather busy inside and with his flat hand slapped the window and ran away.  Old John Saayman got a fright - grabbed his shotgun and blew out the window  of the kitchen.
I can tell you a lot of stories about Stilbaai - where we went on holiday every year.  We must have been the naughtiest children ever to go there.  Our fun consisted of -
*   taking potatoes and hitting it up the exhausts of every car standing in the street behind the first row of homes (virtually no homes had garages in the 1950's) - watching the horror show when people tried to start there cars - actually dangerous because the potatoes shot out of the exhausts like stones and a hit would have meant at least a broken leg;
*    I don't know whether you have seen the original homes in Stilbaai.  Wooden homes on poles "met oop stoepe waar mense baie keer slaap met plank venters wat toegemaak word in  geval van onweer of aan die einde van die vakansie.  So we had this wonderful opportunity of throwing the huge firecrackers of those days onto the stoeps - one kid would run away and the rest would hide away behind the poles.   If the runner got caught - bad luck to him - the hiding was severe, but most got away with it since the runner would start his run before one of the others would throw the firecracker.
*    When we were kids the puff adder population was huge.   There were no street lights and our great fun was "om slangetjie te trek".   We use a belt or anything that could look like a snake and when people came past - from a hidden position slowly pulled the "snake" over the street.   The outcome normally was hilarious.
In the 1960's up to 1994 my parents and old Mat Louw - Rob Louw's father went camping every year in the caravan park in "Lappies Baai".   I have known Rob since he was a little boy and for me he was still one of the best flanks to play for the Springboks.  In the 1970's and early 1980's there was an annual club championship rugby tournament over Easter in Durban and I regularly went to see Rob during those weekends.   One day a friend of mine and myself went to the hotel where the Matie team stayed and the other team players were all over the hotel reception area - but there was not a single sign of any Matie player.  Chris Faure was the Tukkie captain and was then the boyfriend of my friend's daughter.  So we sat down talking to him but the then 19 year old Naas Botha was to shy to say a word.   Eventually the lift door open and out came Danie Craven followed by Jan Boland Coetzee - then the Matie Captain.  Danie Craven walked up to Chris Faure and said to him "I haven't got a team - all my best players are carrying injuries - you will have an easy game today".   I saw Rob and walked over to him - he was virtually shaking - so I asked him what was wrong and all he said was "Doc Craven had a team talk with us - he spoke to every player individually for near to ten minutes afterwards".  Rob then said he would talk to me later - since they are off to have a training session.    That afternoon Maties beat Tukkies 27-6 - despite all Doc Craven's "injured players".        
I can tell you a lot more about Stilbaai - but the above are just some of what made Stilbaai special long before it became a holiday resort for thousands of people.                                 
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DbDraadCaptain26,388 posts
14 May 2015, 22:45
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14 May 2015, 22:45#14
 Mike, I love Stilbaai, but like I said, haven't been there for a while. I will make a plan soon. You don't know Dr Edgar Swart by any chance. He must be about 10 years older than you and also part of one of the older Stilbaai families. Same with the Kleynhans and Scott families. Was typing you a long story about the houses on poles when my phone went bonkers and all were deleted....later.
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clevermikeCoach57,555 posts
15 May 2015, 05:17
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15 May 2015, 05:17#15
 I cannot remember Dr Swart, but Frans Malherbe's father probably knows him.  He at present lives in Stilbaai.  The Scott family I knew well at the time.   
Anyway - back to Dawie Snyman.  Dawie (senior)  was first selected to play for the Springboks in 1972 - which means that by now he must be between 63 and 66  years of age.   He has a brother by the name of Jackie - who played for WP and the Maties as well.           
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hakwaPro4,146 posts
16 May 2015, 14:57
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16 May 2015, 14:57#16
 Nice story Mike
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