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Some Advice for Saffex and Michael

Started by DezertFox6 REPLIES354 VIEWS· 31 Jul 2015, 13:47
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DezertFoxPro2,288 posts
31 Jul 2015, 13:47
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31 Jul 2015, 13:47#1
Now I personally don't advocate looking for people who agree with you and hiding behind them. It really is rather weak, as if you cannot stand on your own two feet and debate a position thoroughly, you have to resort to "but he said"  nonsense without ever evaluating or qualifying those opinions. If you are going to do this you are inadvertently branding that source of information as beyond question. This means you are now in a position where you must conform to their views religiously or you discredit them yourself! Be consistent, or you lose face. 
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clevermikeCoach57,555 posts
31 Jul 2015, 14:34
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31 Jul 2015, 14:34#2
 Disaster
I don't hide behind anybody and has never done so.  What irritate you is that we all quote articles on this site - as a matter of interest to see what others say about issues.
However, when discussing issues I shy away from general statements and go for specific examples about what happened on the field of play.   I do not look at hames and afterwards at video's and do not assign BS explanations - far away from the truth as to what happens on the field of play.   Above all I - unlike you - use lies and misrepresentation to support your point of view.
I do not go for BS - like for instance De Allende lacks upper body strength - which is proven to be false 20 times in every match he plays in.  There is ample evidence to the contrary.   I do not say he is incapbable of line breaks when the exact opposite is true.
The problem with you and your co-idiots is that you support players - who should not be anywhere near the team.  So what do you do to get sympathy for your point of view?
*   You make general statements as to the abilities of the players you favoured - but you cannot support those statements by referring to specific examples of their alleged abilities in matches they played in.
*   You malign other players that threaten the selection endlessly and in the process do not mind using total misrepresentation and outright lies that you think would support your arguments.
There is no way that any logical discussion on player performance evaluation can be held with members like Mozart, Ceradunce and yourself.   If you want to support your favourites - you are entitled to do so by motivating their candidacy by giving practical examples of what they have achieved in games - not by trying to malign other players and in the process abusing the truth.  
Th real issue issue is - stick to the truth and motivate for selection players you support through factual performance records and stop maligning players threatening their selection and in so-dong stick to the truth.   Very difficult - I know - because you support duds and it is virtually impossible to justify their selection - based on achievements in matches, but at least try to achieve that.          
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Saffolk Captain30,741 posts
31 Jul 2015, 15:07
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31 Jul 2015, 15:07#3

Foxtwat given I cant begin to respect anything you have to say about rugby......don't waste your ignorant time on me.


I have never come across a more rugby ignorant poster than you and I mean that sincerely.


Bottom line is, I cant be asked when it comes to you.


For the record, I mostly reference my own observations on players......I've been here for years.....I don't need an ignorant twat telling me the do's and don'ts.......I'd possibly pay attention to you if I actually respected your views or contributions......that's the difference between a poster like you and Moz.


I might disagree with most of Moz's views but I respect them......with you its just a bloody joke.


 

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MozartCaptain49,914 posts
31 Jul 2015, 15:38
#4
31 Jul 2015, 15:38#4
Dave thinks Michael is a fool....but will still team up with him for expediency. If I'm wrong about your views on Clevermike please correct me Dave.
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DezertFoxPro2,288 posts
31 Jul 2015, 15:45
#5
31 Jul 2015, 15:45#5
You are yourself, so by default you fit the bill. You went sheepishly quiet on your own thread regarding Meyer's Bok developments and have been incapable of defending your position on Damian. So far we just have the same worn out insults and quotes from Mallet - One time he is an unquestionable genius and at others you fall into deathly silence as he disagrees with you. 
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clevermikeCoach57,555 posts
31 Jul 2015, 16:32
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31 Jul 2015, 16:32#6
 Mozart
I may be a fool because I differ from you.  However, I keep to what is happening on the field of play and look at issues more comprehensively.  I never look at an occurrence on the field and then use lies about a player in an effort to promote another player I want to see in the team.   That kind of thing I leave to you and Disaster.   
As an example - yYou want Francois Steyn in the Springbok team and make all kinds of reasons for his inclusion in the team - but when asked when and where Steyn displayed the wonderful attributes ascribed to him - there is a reference to the 2007 WC and nothing else.  Since there is nothing you and Disaster could use to support your standpoint you  use the mechanism to malign other players who may be in the running - not hesitating to use lies, deception and misrepresentation to try and score points.
That has happened many times and in  the end you are the one who looks bad in the process.         
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Saffolk Captain30,741 posts
31 Jul 2015, 17:30
#7
31 Jul 2015, 17:30#7
No I don't think he is a fool, but lets put it this way some of his rugby views are crap  
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