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Some bad news for ou maaaikie re Frans

Started by Beeno112 REPLIES355 VIEWS· 06 Apr 2015, 19:51
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Beeno1Captain40,032 posts
06 Apr 2015, 19:51
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06 Apr 2015, 19:51#1

Ex Keo


A fit Frans Steyn – despite another public declaration that he does not expect to ever play for the Springboks again – will go to the World Cup later this year, writes MARK KEOHANE in Business Day.

Steyn is a World Cup winner, having been influential as a 20 year old in South Africa’s 2007 success.

Steyn is a Tri-Nations winner, again having contributed massively to the Springboks’ win against the All Blacks in Hamilton in 2009.

Steyn is also one of the highest-paid rugby players in the world. He played for Racing Métro for four years and now is based in Japan on a deal that allows him to play Vodacom Super Rugby for the Sharks.

The Japanese deal does not make provision for his international release for the Rugby Championship but all players the world over are released to play in the World Cup.

Steyn, through his media interviews, could be preparing for the worst but if Bok coach Heyneke Meyer is true to his stated view that he wants the best South African players wearing the Bok jersey at the World Cup, then Steyn, if not injured, will be among those challenged to win back the World Cup.

Steyn is only 27 years old. He can play flyhalf, inside centre, outside centre and fullback. His is among the longest line kicking games and he's an effective goal-kicker. Those are qualities few coaches in world rugby can find in one individual.

Steyn, a 19-year-old darling of Springbok rugby in 2006 when he played wing on debut and scored a fantastic individual try, isn’t the poster boy anymore.

The ignorant among South Africa’s support base still think any player who maximizes his income worth through a club contract in France, England or Japan, is showing a lack of loyalty to the Springboks.

It is ridiculous and so out of sync with the demands of professional sport. South Africa’s domestic competitions cannot compete with the overseas contract offers and the majority of South Africans based overseas have always made themselves available for Bok selection.

Meyer has consistently selected 10 overseas-based Boks in his respective squads of 30. Steyn, up until a year ago, was among those offshore players until he walked out of the Boks because of a financial dispute with the South African Rugby Union.

Steyn’s stance won him few friends on social media. The Neville Noboddies of South Africa’s rugby social media mob have declared war on the man who has played so many memorable Tests for South Africa. (Bwahahhaahhahaha ou maaaikie could you be a Neville Nobody?)

The abuse always gets personal and always gets nasty. The tone is disgusting and says more about the makeup of those who call themselves Bok loyalists but take such joy in their insult of one of the game’s finest players. (None of this is as bad as the turncoat Rooitwit who supports nz sides agaisnt Sa sides!!!)

Steyn doesn’t need the abuse and he certainly doesn’t need to prove to anyone in South Africa that he's good enough to be a Springbok or to play in the World Cup. He was one of South Africa’s best at the 2007 World Cup and he was among the best performing Springboks in the 2011 World Cup before injury ended his tournament.(Actually ou maaaikie is correct he does need to prove himself!)

Ironically,  many of those who lamented his premature end to the tournament in 2011, were the very same vicious voices who declared the player a pariah and not deserving of a World Cup place.

Steyn’s dispute with Saru should never have played out the way it did. The national organisation’s leadership, regardless of its like or dislike for the personality of the player, should have dealt with an asset with greater care, consideration and integrity.

Many of the world’s best sports people have an ego the equal of their talent. These talents and egos require management and not alienation.

Steyn, as a player, could retire now and be considered one of the best to have played the professional game. His international statistics, his many big performances for South Africa and a World Cup winner's medal support his claim to one of the most successful Springbok professional international careers.

But why allow the poison to fester because the young boy from Bloem hasn’t remained the inoffensive conservative kid who felt uncomfortable voicing an opinion in the media, let alone telling his employers he wouldn’t tolerate what he felt was a lie?

Steyn is not bigger than the game and he has not become a self-serving egotist who thinks he is bigger than the game.

He wants to play for the Springboks. He wants to play until he is 32, which would mean he could play in another two World Cups.

Meyer was in France and England this past week meeting with every potential World Cup player. He knows the value of the offshore players because when none were eligible to play Wales, the South African-based Boks lost in Cardiff.

Meyer wants the best South Africans in his squad of 30. Steyn is among those best South Africans and getting him to England would be a victory.

The Springbok squad will be stronger with Steyn and those who believe the Boks don’t need a player of his quality don’t have a clue about rugby.

To me Frans has to prove hims elf much of the praise relates to performances in the past

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DbDraadCaptain26,388 posts
06 Apr 2015, 20:00
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06 Apr 2015, 20:00#2
 Beenz, I did not read the whole thing, as I think Keo is an idiot. Fransie is definitely not one of the greats though. Lots of potential but no follow through. 
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Saffolk Captain30,741 posts
06 Apr 2015, 20:21
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06 Apr 2015, 20:21#3
Frans will walk the WC squad and rightly so
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Beeno1Captain40,032 posts
06 Apr 2015, 20:24
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06 Apr 2015, 20:24#4
 Draad we shall have to see what he has got. So far no great breaks and fancy footwork and good accele ration can bee seen. It would be wonderful if the Frans of old would emmerge. 
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MozartCaptain49,914 posts
06 Apr 2015, 21:37
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06 Apr 2015, 21:37#5
Frans was never about fancy footwork.....he is a take the ball to the line specialist and offload. He also denies the opposing team the advantage line through his power defence. Frans does what's effective, not what's pretty, popular or good for his stats. And then there is his huge boot....Pollard/ Fran's/ de Allende gives us power in the inside channels.
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Beeno1Captain40,032 posts
06 Apr 2015, 21:42
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06 Apr 2015, 21:42#6
 The young Frans had a very good step and nice acceleration - also good pace. Nothing of this is evident now. He does very little in a game. To my mind he has a lot to prove.He was a great palyer but is he now. Not from what he has shown so far.
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DbDraadCaptain26,388 posts
06 Apr 2015, 21:44
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06 Apr 2015, 21:44#7
 Frans is a good player, but ATM he is neither the second best 12, nor even the 3rd best 10. I used to  like him at 15, but I believe that ship has sailed as well. 
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clevermikeCoach57,555 posts
06 Apr 2015, 21:46
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06 Apr 2015, 21:46#8
 Keo must be sniffing coke again.  You cannot even consider a player which over the past three years -
*   showed zero attacking skills as a center and beside that is a poor reader of the game and a very questionable ball handler; and
*    was in the period 2013 the second worse defender in any SA franchise in Super 15. 
What is to be expected from this selection?  A dead backline with a deficient defense.  Anybody who thinks Steyn can produce anything constructive in the team must have their heads read.  I accept Plumtree's version - Steyn is no center.   His reputation and size is worthless for any team.  
If Meyer is dumb enough to select him one wonders whether SA will survive the Round-Robin phase of the competition - especially since Meyer would also select  Matfield.  A dud in the backline and a dud in the Tight 5 - what a combination.  
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MozartCaptain49,914 posts
06 Apr 2015, 22:02
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06 Apr 2015, 22:02#9
Based on Saturday I'd say the duds are Lambie and Coetzee.  
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DbDraadCaptain26,388 posts
06 Apr 2015, 22:05
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06 Apr 2015, 22:05#10
 Based on the last 2 years Fransie is a pipe dream. Not nearly good enough for the boks.
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Saffolk Captain30,741 posts
06 Apr 2015, 22:17
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06 Apr 2015, 22:17#11
Coetzee has been outstanding for some time now. Lambie has been bloody good.
Let's face it all the Sharks were poor on the weekend bar Esterhuizen and Reinach.


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MozartCaptain49,914 posts
06 Apr 2015, 22:34
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06 Apr 2015, 22:34#12
Esterhuizen waaaaaaahahahahhahahahahahaha. Hold on I take that back, he looked good when he was packing at flank.
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clevermikeCoach57,555 posts
06 Apr 2015, 23:13
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06 Apr 2015, 23:13#13
 Mozart
Whether you like it or not Coetzee is highly rated insofar as performance in Super 15 is concerned and so is Lambie.  You have forgotten about the Chiefs game where the win was actually credited to the performances of Lambie and Reinach more than anybody else. 
I would rather have Esterhuizen in my backline than Francois Steyn - at least hs defense is five times better than that of Fransie.  
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