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Started by Mozart28 REPLIES620 VIEWS· 09 May 2015, 22:44
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MO
MozartCaptain49,914 posts
09 May 2015, 22:44
#1
09 May 2015, 22:44#1

This was a nasty effort from the Brumbies, all the way to Nick White's shove on Kolby after the hooter. But with Larkham in the coaching role it doesn't surprise me. He was a great flyhalf and a brave player, but always had a dislike of South African teams. 


Today his players came out loaded for bear. The amount of tackling of players around the rucks, jersey pulling ....holding of the tackled player on the ground,  was unusual. And the attitude was clearly to be very aggressive.



Fat lot of good it did them.




DB
DbDraadCaptain26,388 posts
09 May 2015, 22:51
#2
09 May 2015, 22:51#2
 Moor's storm from more than 10m away to start a bargie after a penalty to the Stormers was way off and should have been carded. They were looking for trouble from the get go. Won't be surprised if there is some kind of trouble after their night on the town this evening. I hope Eben's cousins keep an eye on the sorry lot if they venture out of their hotel tonight.
JE
JeromeVClub Pro492 posts
09 May 2015, 23:14
#3
09 May 2015, 23:14#3
It was a typical example of how other teams try to provoke SA players into fights by trying to get penalties. It worked many times in the past so of course they will continue to look for trouble.  

Credit must go to the Stormers for handling the situation and keeping a cool head during all this, i know it isn't easy.  
DB
DbDraadCaptain26,388 posts
10 May 2015, 00:29
#4
10 May 2015, 00:29#4
 Stormers handled it well, but the ref was too lenient. It could have turned ugly.
HA
hakwaPro4,146 posts
10 May 2015, 03:38
#5
10 May 2015, 03:38#5
 "It was a typical example of how other teams try to provoke SA players into fights" really? I lost count of the number of head high shots in the Sharks vs Canes game - Too funny JeromeV. Maybe if the SA players stop using roids????

Hats off though to the Lions win over the Highlanders. Well played and very well coached during the game.
MO
MozartCaptain49,914 posts
10 May 2015, 03:41
#6
10 May 2015, 03:41#6

Sharks high tackles......a ctually all three that I saw came from tackling players being stepped. Not excusable for sure....but not intentional. Have you watched the Brumbies game?

HA
hakwaPro4,146 posts
10 May 2015, 03:47
#7
10 May 2015, 03:47#7
 Sorry Mozart, way past my bedtime. After the Highlanders loss to the Lions, sleep was the only solution to forget .

Concerning the Brumbies, it does not surprise me one bit to hear talk of dirty play by them. Plus they just came off another spiteful game against the Tahs last week.

The only issue I have Mozart was of JeromeV generalising "other teams" provoking SA players giving the impression that SA players are angels. Has he heard of the Du Plesis brothers?
MO
MozartCaptain49,914 posts
10 May 2015, 03:57
#8
10 May 2015, 03:57#8
Fair enough. I can only watch two of these games before  I start going cross eyed.
 The SA and NZ teams have some very physical games, but this game for me was different....petty. You couldn't imagine the guys having a beer together any time soon.
HA
hakwaPro4,146 posts
10 May 2015, 04:04
#9
10 May 2015, 04:04#9
 Fair enough Mozart. I guess the stakes are pretty high at present to worry about etiquette and being gentlemen of the game BUT it would be nice to play a full 80minutes brutal game against your opponent and then gloves off at the full time siren to give a bottle of wine to your respected opponent. I guess the Brumbies didnt particularly endear themselves well to the Stormers to deserve any wine .
MO
MozartCaptain49,914 posts
11 May 2015, 00:54
#10
11 May 2015, 00:54#10
Larkham quoted after the game...this guy was looking for trouble:
 "We spoke about not being intimidated by any of it.
"When stuff happened off the ball, it was good to see we stepped up and looked after our mates there"
When a  coach has that kind of attitude and expresses it so freely trouble is to be expected. 
CL
ClaydogClub Pro691 posts
11 May 2015, 04:26
#11
11 May 2015, 04:26#11
 The most disappointing thing in the match was that no one flattened Nic White when the perfect opportunity arose. Lift your game Stormers.
MO
MozartCaptain49,914 posts
11 May 2015, 05:07
#12
11 May 2015, 05:07#12
A very unfortunate fellow.  
TT
The_TruthClub Pro471 posts
11 May 2015, 11:41
#13
11 May 2015, 11:41#13
Just to give context to my comments. Although I am not a Stormers supporter, but I wanted them to win, preferably with a bonus point... But during the match my mood and view changed so that I wasn't sure whether I wanted them to win anymore.

About these comments:
"We spoke about not being intimidated by any of it.
"When stuff happened off the ball, it was good to see we stepped up and looked after our mates there"

I see nothing wrong with those comments. They knew the Stormers were going to intimidate and did not stand back or roll over and play dead.

As for the shove after the hooter. It was a nothing shove. More about the fact that he was too late to make the tackle (a little bit of frustration), but that shove would not even be able to do damage to 6 year old. The reaction from the Stormers however showed what it was all about and who were the aggressors during most of the match...

Then you have the Schalk rolling over a ruck incident, where a person was yellow carded in a situation, where he never even lifted Schalk off the ground. That was a pathetic call to say the least.
MO
MozartCaptain49,914 posts
11 May 2015, 14:21
#14
11 May 2015, 14:21#14

The shove after the hooter was just a bit of bad sportsmanship.

 

The caber toss of Schalk over  the maul, executed by a Brumbie on the wrong side of the scrum was a red card offence if done by a Bok.

 

 

The general aggressive attitude signalled by Larkham's comments was over the top. The way all the Brumbies rushed in to escalate nothing incidents reminded me of the Lions 99 tactic under McBride. an aggressive ploy disguised as defence. See this clip

 

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CnPVfbG3rVM

 

 

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ShezzaPro2,471 posts
11 May 2015, 14:38
#15
11 May 2015, 14:38#15
 What exactly did De Jong do to warrant Moore running from 10m away to confront him? De Jong of all players is not one to participate in hand bags and comes across as a pacifist on field.
BE
Beeno1Captain40,032 posts
11 May 2015, 16:32
#16
11 May 2015, 16:32#16
 Nick Mallet had thsisto say re the twit Nick White (Sport 24):

Cape Town - Former Springbok coach Nick Mallett has taken a swipe at Brumbies scrumhalf Nic White after the player was involved in several niggling incidents during his side’s Super Rugby loss to the Stormers at Newlands this past weekend.

It was an ill-tempered game, which the Stormers won 25-24 after overturning a 16-3 first half deficit.

White appeared to spark several of the niggles and the game ended in another bust-up between the teams when he pushed Stormers fullback Cheslin Kolbe after the latter had booted the ball out to end the game.

Mallett, speaking in the SuperSport studio afterwards, criticised the Brumbies No 9.

He said: “It was a very niggly game and it was probably because of how much was resting on this result, for both sides. Both teams were very physical, they played a lot of direct rugby. There were a lot of off-the-ball incidents - a lot of holding, pulling of jerseys and just getting up each other's noses. Nic White needs a good ‘klap’ quite frankly, and someone will give it to him. He rushed around inciting a lot of those incidents.(You have to love Mallets honesty!)


BE
Beeno1Captain40,032 posts
11 May 2015, 16:36
#17
11 May 2015, 16:36#17
 It is blatantly obvious they are following the kiwi example as even the se one eyed kbbs would agree!
JW
Just_winCaptain18,570 posts
11 May 2015, 19:35
#18
11 May 2015, 19:35#18
Beeno: your heroes on that show had a lot of other things to say, e.g. about the rolling maul. Perhaps you could share those with us also ?
BE
Beeno1Captain40,032 posts
11 May 2015, 21:24
#19
11 May 2015, 21:24#19
 Missed the show JW.But my observation is based on sound reasoning and observab le behaviours.

JW
Just_winCaptain18,570 posts
11 May 2015, 22:04
#20
11 May 2015, 22:04#20
Beeno: Kaplan said the rolling maul was legalized obstruction. He also explained that Pollack was penalizing the maul because of lane changes & handing the ball to a man when there was another one obstructing that was closer. He said some refs call it & some don't. This based on sound reasoning & observable behaviors.
BE
Beeno1Captain40,032 posts
11 May 2015, 22:12
#21
11 May 2015, 22:12#21
Its very seldom if ever called and only against Sa sides no doubt.
We all know the maul is obtstruction ou JW but please oak concentrate lonely brain cell on the word legal.Jw all at sea yet again.  
JW
Just_winCaptain18,570 posts
11 May 2015, 22:28
#22
11 May 2015, 22:28#22
Beeno: please take your anti-seizure meds, the image you so kindly provided of yourself looks a little more frenzied than usual. 
It's time the under the table deals that the crafty SA officials were stopped & the rolling maul was outlawed
SA
Saffolk Captain30,741 posts
12 May 2015, 11:45
#23
12 May 2015, 11:45#23
That prick of a White should have been knocked out for that cheap shove.....he is a real little prick  
HA
hakwaPro4,146 posts
16 May 2015, 13:43
#24
16 May 2015, 13:43#24
 You can always depend on White to have a brain implosion at the right time
HA
hakwaPro4,146 posts
16 May 2015, 13:51
#25
16 May 2015, 13:51#25
 Any penalties Nic gives away is bonus for all the other Teams
HA
hakwaPro4,146 posts
16 May 2015, 14:27
#26
16 May 2015, 14:27#26
 we want him picked every time for his Team
DB
DbDraadCaptain26,388 posts
16 May 2015, 14:30
#27
16 May 2015, 14:30#27
 Text Book Scrum halve play as recorded in: " Scrum Halve Play for Dummies - No Brains Needed " by F Terrier & J Russel.
HA
hakwaPro4,146 posts
16 May 2015, 14:32
#28
16 May 2015, 14:32#28
 Maybe Nick based his plays and philosophy on that book
HA
hakwaPro4,146 posts
16 May 2015, 14:42
#29
16 May 2015, 14:42#29
 Who is the most irritating half back in the competition?
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