Springbok media conference: Rassie Erasmus

Mpower

It’s based on my opinion of what I have seen and heard. One example is Swys de bruin after he left the Bok setup, videos of Rassie going off in the change room with players etc

So please provide us with what happened to Swys. As ar as I know Swys was given a rather stress free jb by Erasmus after his dctior advused him that coaching ha a totally negaive impact on his health, What commend did Erasmus made on his case?

Sure nobody else seems to know about the videos going of in the playroom - so can you post them on site please. I am sure that players who bend rules or mad bad mstakes during matches must be reprimanded - so why should that not happen. ust it happened twice that a player revolt based on real issues never have been found in the case of Erasmus - if he is as bad as you claim he is - why did it not happen. to Erasmus - bit happened twice in the case of White who was fired twice because of proven complains by his subodinates or players. .

Iy would be appreciated if you please clear up in more detail on thee findings on the issues.

Mpower

It’s based on my opinion of what I have seen and heard. One example is Swys de bruin after he left the Bok setup, videos of Rassie going off in the change room with players etc

So please provide us with what happened to Swys. As ar as I know Swys was given a rather stress free jb by Erasmus after his dctior advused him that coaching has a totally negaive impact on his health, What commend did Erasmus made on his case?

Sure nobody else seems to know about the videos going of in the playroom - so can you post them on site please. I am sure that players who bend rules or mad bad mstakes during matches must be reprimanded - so why should that not happen. ust it happened twice that a player revolt based on real issues never have been found in the case of Erasmus - if he is as bad as you claim he is - why did it not happen. to Erasmus - bit happened twice in the case of White who was fired twice because of proven complains by his subodinates or players. .

Iy would be appreciated if you please clear up in more detail on thee findings on the issues.

That reponse indicate the amazing level of prejudiced BS you manage to spread on site, Really amazing that you can makle up shit like that and expect people to believe what uoi write on rugby perfomances on site, Just one question - who scored the resultant try or was it the refs mistake and no try was scored,

Well maybe you should tell me what specifically you want me to look at. You talked about slow and poor ball carrier, so I focused on the flanker hauling him in. I didn't make up anything. Here is the video, minute 17:29 on the video clock. DDA breaks away with the ball, French #6 tackles him from behind, exactly as I described.

From the resultant breakdown DDA gets the ball and scores through the big gap in front of him. Reinach with the try assist :)

He carried the ball up to 5 meters out - at the breadown he gor up quickly and h ab ll was pased to him. joined th backline and scored a try.

That a lone put aveything you come up proven as a lie and seldf-opinionated BS. De Allende is to slow to play at center - he does not follow up in any attack

By the way you should also watch the two tries De Allende scored against the AB's - maybe you should just cntinue to put your opinion How come De Allende scors ie crucial to Springbok victories in paly-off matches in both the 2019 and 2023 RWC's.

You got caught n the same distortion Mozart spread about the try against Wales in 2019 - amd what you wrote above is real BS.

So when did St Esterhuizen get involved in similar fashion when playing for the Springboks?

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https://youtube.com/shorts/Ra3cLFoJrds?si=814NdfDI2ye9K7hh

Here uncle check it out ….

A funny one - Erasmus was in fact doing the same type of thing from the word go - yret the players act on what he says and improve their games. The act is he talks like that all the time and in act it encourages people to impro their peformances. For isnatnce he when he became coach he told he playes that reaction of new playes ofen are hey believe heir balls is bigger than New Jersey - while hey have not proved yet they had real balls on test level at all,

Some players may take offence - but the eaction in the main is positive and they do improve on peformances. His orignal thinking of Du Toit was that he was a show pony and said so initially after his appointment - but afterwards stated that he found out soon that he was indeed the top player in world rugby and said so in public as to it,

By the way is that niece of Swys who said so is again second viewpoint issues and if yu ask the actual players they rate Ersmus as the ebst coach theye ver encontered - so wh o must we actually beleive - the palyers themselves or a niece of somebody.

So really your idea is indeed narrow-minded and maybe to brash is misleading to say the least. But then you are entitled to believe whatsoever you want to believe - but whether that is in act the case insofar as the players are concerned is highly unlikely.

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Man he swears at the Players because they apparently promised something??

Everyone in there Right mind knows you can’t promise anything in Rugby it’s a unpredictable sport.

The Dr. Is almost foaming at the mouth, what a egotistical driven moment! Case closed

Np case at all until you ask what the players he addressed think of what he was saying.

Oh my goodness uncle, did you even look at the video?? Well then look again, because you don’t have to ask the players , just look at there facial expressions!

Deon Fourie turning his head away next to Thor and the rest of the Guys.. it’s written on there faces: shut the hell up, you egotistical lunatic, is what they saying!

News Flash Uncle, coaching stops the moment the Captain,s run is over! Then the team is on there own.

This is the way he treats this special group that won the WC twice, with the limited KAK Stampkar/Kick game plan that he gave them!

What a ungrateful Windgat Doos, that thinks the sun shines out his ass! CASE CLOSED….

A i - Ai - ai - and i differ from you totally and every rugby expert believe otherwise from what you have stated, . A s rto stampkar rgby the backline score more tries under Erasmus than any other coach since 2000 and their is less stampkar rugby as well. Let me explain the game plan played since Browne was appointed and change to include one process applied by New Zealand for decades - namely for the use of loosies to create defense problems for the oppositon by becoming part of the backline attack. That happens now in SA and was never really was the ase since 2 000rare ebore.

Another problem is that in 2024 the Sprinboks scored more tries than any other national team in the world, So what rugby are you looking at or do you see things you wanted to see and ignore what you do not want to see.

The real coach specializing in stampkar rugby is Jake White - he did it in every team he coached. .Yet I have not seen a word of ctticsm on our part when it copmes to White, By the way even White realized that Estrhuizen was not a good enough stampkar player and tried to move him to no 7 loosie where he was an worse stampkar player. And now Erasmu also think Esterhuizen is really not making the grade at both center and loosie,

We will know by 12 or 13 days who would be in the Springgbok team to play Australia at home. - so maybe we should wait and see who are selected and what contribution players made to the team during the first test,

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So when did St Esterhuizen get involved in similar fashion when playing for the Springboks?

DDA has over 6000 minutes of test rugby. Esterhuizen just over 1000 minutes. I believe it's safe to say that a player with 5000 extra minutes on the park has had a few more opportunities to shine, don't you?

Wrong thread.

"What a ungrateful Windgat Doos, that thinks the sun shines out his ass! CASE CLOSED…."

You are wrong...so flat out wrong...you don't like him...fine...everyone who've worked with him has the highest praise for him...and I love the Hulk smash approach the Bokke have under his guardianship.

Pakie

You posted the following comments unde another thread about the Esterhuizen issue;-

DDA has over 6000 minutes of test rugby. Esterhuizen just over 1000 minutes. I believe it's safe to say that a player with 5000 extra minutes on the park has had a few more opportunities to shine, don't you?

So why dd Esterhuizen not get more opportunities than he did. In the test matches he played in Esterhuizen showed zero positives from a performing perspective. His attacking consisted of ineffective crashballing with the loss of too many ball possessions. Way too many such carries ended up in possession turnovers, I will give you an example. Esterhuizen in many matches played against poor teams and did not use those opportunities ever. In the RWC 2019 when Kriel was injured and had to be replaced in the squad Erasmus did not call up Esterhuizen who by then had playe in 10. tests without scoring a single try - he called up Willemse - who at the time played in no tests. In his firs test appearance against Canada in 2019 Willmse scored a try.and since then scored tries and also started attacks leadig to more tries being scored.

In his test playing showed zero evidence of his ability t take patt in attacking rugby and often isolated hmself - while hs defence was at best questionable, As an example in five tests Esterhizen played in n 2018 he made 22 tackles and missed 5. In the same number of tests De Allende made 42 tackles and missed 5. That shows that Esterhuizen is an iffy defender/

Esterhuizen has other negative tendencies of isolating himself and as a result losing ball possession - something De Allende and Willemse cannot be acciused of. In none of the tests he played in De Allende was never red-carded In the.tests he played in - Esterhuizen copped red crads twice and in one case he was banned for 4 weeks from playing.

In his twenty tests Esterhizen played in he did not once prove that he deserves to be in he team and belongs there, So why should he be given at the age of 31 he should get more opportunites, If he fails to score tries before - wuld that change in the last few years of his playing career?

I do not think that Erasmus think to play Esterhuizen in future in the center position. The players in number 2 and 3 in the 12 position is obvious Willemse followed by Hooker, I would not be surprised if Hooker be used at center against weaker teams and that Willemse be used from the brnch to cover 4 backline positions due to his real potential and usage,

With Esterhuizen in the squad there may be an emergency leading to Esterhuizen being used as a loosy - but his use in that position in the last two tests showed that he may be coached into playing as a loosie - his center days are gone and that is a fact as well.

The screaming on site about the functioning of Browne is another factor, When Browne came on Board Esterhuizen was given an opportunty that he belongs in the team as a cener palyng more accoding to Browne's ideas and it took Estehuizen 3 minutes to bugger up royally and copping a four week ban. That incident confirms that in attacking backline play Esterhuizen brings zero to the game/

I can understand suggesting Hooker to replace De Allende - cannot see a single reason why Esterhuizen deserves to be the replacement.

No amount of daydreaming by you and the other Esterhuizzen .supporters can ever prove that he belongs on merit in the Springbok team - he does not. and never provided any evidence to support his continued selection in the tests he played in. .

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Hey Uncle Kak Praat you must really take your own advice. Rassie Erasmus picks Esterhuisen because he is a very good 12!

No amount of senile talk from a Fool like Yourself, will change that….

So do yourself a favour and stop talking on this Forum about Esterhuisen, as with every word you are making a bigger fool out of yourself , than you already are!!

Well - I gave examples and you respond with shit as to be expected from a "bitterbal" All shit and no facts.

I will refrainm from criticinsg Eterhuizen accountng his failures on test level - because t proof anything th rpugh fact to you is impossible. Your hatred of Easmus and some players are based on prejudced BS and nthing morre.

My advice to you is to stop making unsubstantiated BS on site iro rugby issues - which indicaste serious deficiencies ito rugby as a game,

There is no link on the internet that Erasmus somehow caused wys ro leave coaching and you r allegations about why Swys left both the Head Coach job nd the Lions abd Consultant appointment as Springboks Consultant as backline advisor at the same time by resgnnation in 2019. It Erasmus had anything to do iiyj jii deaprture - why did he left the Lions head coach at th same time. Only fake stories would link those two issues to be blamed on Erasmus.

Fact is that Erasmus helped to get a less stressful job in the coaching set-up by involving him in the Female part of DS TU's development program

So bitterbal you are thriving on fabrication of BS fantancies.

Rest over the weekemnd and stop for a change producing BS on site.

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" Swys de Bruin was brought in as an attack consultant during Erasmus’s time as head coach. His attacking style — which thrived at the Lions with quick ball movement, support play, and freedom for playmakers — didn’t quite fit with Erasmus’s more structured, defense-and-kicking-first philosophy.

De Bruin reportedly became frustrated that his ideas on expansive, flowing rugby were often ignored or overridden. Erasmus preferred a pragmatic approach: win territory, dominate physically, and exploit mistakes — not necessarily entertain with flair.

Despite his title, insiders say Swys’s input wasn’t given much weight in key games. He felt his role had no real influence. He even said in an interview later that he had to “backtrack” his suggestions because they weren’t aligned with the team’s vision.

Swys left because his attacking philosophy clashed with Erasmus’s conservative approach, and he grew frustrated with being sidelined. The “personal reasons and Mental Issues" story softened the exit, but Swys has since made it clear that it was a clash of rugby ideologies, and he didn’t feel respected or listened to."

News 24 - www.news24.com

Here you go, you lying BS spreader Deluxe….!

And for goodness sake uncle, do something about your spelling !!

B S stupid bugger-upper.

De Bruin reportedly became frustrated that his ideas on expansive, flowing rugby were often ignored or overridden. Erasmus preferred a pragmatic approach: win territory, dominate physically, and exploit mistakes — not necessarily entertain with flair.

Despite his title, insiders say Swys’s input wasn’t given much weight in key games. He felt his role had no real influence. He even said in an interview later that he had to “backtrack” his suggestions because they weren’t aligned with the team’s vision.

Swys left because his attacking philosophy clashed with Erasmus’s conservative approach, and he grew frustrated with being sidelined. The “personal reasons and Mental Issues" story softened the exit, but Swys has since made it clear that it was a clash of rugby ideologies, and he didn’t feel respected or listened to."

Swys left the Lions Head coach job simultaneously giving the same reasons for leaving BOTH JOBS - so who provided the above BS to you. If the above was true then why did he left the Lions Head Coach Job? So just tell us who gave the reasons spouted above. Did it come from Swys's niece who heard it from her second cousin who heard it from you? So give us the source of this conspiracy theory,

Further - why did Erasmus have Swys appointed by SARU in a less stressful job - sucker?.

You may believe " nameless Insiders" BS if you want to - it at least left you foaming at the mouth in your hatred of Erasmus. So another conspiracy theory based on nameless insiders. TReminds me in a way of the Russian Hoax that ah been exposed as being consstiong of lied concocted by Trump haters and fed tp the fake media by the FBI and CIA - typical BS spreading - so give us the names of the "insiders" please. .

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LolZZZ!!!

"Pakie the rugby dead head at work again with photos he gleaned from TV shows"

Yes, Pakie...if you want to post photos of games, go to the game and take your own photos.

Geez, it's like nobody ever told you that you can't belive everything you see on TV.

"TV shows"

haha is it only me that finds this so funny?

Plum

Not on TV shows BSter - but in rugby matches. That is what counts and you are particularly lying about De A llendee's [eformances and is just about as reliable a the shit I flush down the toilet.

"and I love the Hulk smash approach the Bokke have under his guardianship."

Yes, because it worked against the ABs when they were at their lowest in many years.

But as soon as they get 10% better, which they certainly will, then we're back playing second fiddle to them...for the next ten years.

That's the problem, Draad. The current talent pool is a massive advantage for us, but instead of using it to truly separate ourselves from the pack...we narrowly beat the ABs last year and drew to Ireland.

3, 6, 9 rugby will help you be competitive more easily, but you'll never properly pull away from the pack because every game is close.

Think about Carter's ABs...they didn't come to kick penalties. They came to thrash you. A winning mentality, a confident mentality. A mentality where the coach trusts the players and leaves plenty of room for them to show how much better than the opposition they are.

That's what us supposed Rassie haters want. And with the talent that we have, that is what we should be getting.

But instead, in a way that is almost insulting to our backline talent, we tend to pretty much ignore the backs for the most part. So much so that we put DDA right in the middle and instruct him to never pass.

I'll say it again, we drew to Ireland in SA last year. A team that has a fraction of the talent that we do. Why?

Why do our coaches struggle to make the best of the players?

I'll give you an example. Cheslin. Probably our best winger ever, even though if you put a gun to my head I'd pick Arendse, Cheslin is undeniable. Already an icon and a legend. How often do you see him actually brought into the game? How often do you see plays that are intended to put, probably the best stepper in rugby, into some space.

Answer: NEVER

Cheslin has to feed off of taking high balls and random counter attacks. Thats it. That's what arguably our best winger ever, and maybe in the conversation for best wingers ever in rugby, means to Rassie.

So while you love you some Hulk Smash, some of us are looking a little further and wider.

Mpower

https://youtube.com/shorts/Ra3cLFoJrds?si=814NdfDI2ye9K7hh

Thanks - the toguelashing obviously worked - Du Toit made a record number of tackles in that match and at the end was the MOM. game being the MOM in the final.

I do nt think D u Toit complained about the talk after the match,. A nd in 2024 he was World Player of the Year, .

The source is right there in my post, News24. And do you really think News24 will give up the names of there insider information??

You really dumb thinking it will work like that. Besides the point is you said there is zero article’s online about why Swys left the boks setup.

I found this online and there is more articles on this subject. So yet again stop lying thru your teeth!! You have no shame you Fool :)

Why don’t you contact News24 and demand the insiders names, then see what happens. They will most probably tell you to bugger off.

Also you don’t have any respect for any of the posters on here, because of your spelling.

I know quite a few people in there 80 ties, and none of them have your problem.

Are you dyslexic? Get some help man, it’s unbearable with your jiberish.

Mpower

You miss totally out on the real question - if Erasmus was the reason for leaving the Springbok coaching set-up why did Swys use the same reasons for leaving the Lions virtually the same time? News stories are often hearsay at best and that was a typical example of media BS spreading.

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If you keep on being rejected about your input on your coaching role, it will for sure cause mental stress!

The real Question is why did Erasmus hire Swys, if there ideologies on how to play the game, are so different??

Erasmus kept on overriding Swys,s attack mindset with his Stampkar/ Kick mindset. So anyone would get unhappy in that situation and would leave.

And the lions Job with Ackermann leaving + the Erasmus difference’s, made him leave that job to, using the same reason.

But behind the scenes the true reasons could not be revealed, as that would have caused more problems for Swys, with him still being very much in the Rugby scene.

Imagine him going Full out saying Erasmus is a lunatic control freak?!! It would have caused immense issues with his commitments for example to Supersport etc etc.

Use your brain Uncle.

Listen dimness Ackerman left a year before Swys resigned . You must be the biggest fool in the world to believe that BS.

Swys had nervous breakdown problems in New Zealand and was checked and decided to come back home before the final tour match was played, . That was BEFORE he joined the coaching staff of Erasmus and he left Erasmus' providing a medical report indicating his stress-related problems using the same report ar his resignationas Lions Head coach.

What caused your allegations are based alegations of nameless sources providing inside info as to what happened. In the normal world the leaking of inside info would have been investigated since it would have a negative impact on the fucntioning of any rganization. In this case it would have had a negative impact on team morale and ot was likely investigated and found to be BS spreading lapped up by the site idiots l0 especially comparable to the lies the CIA and FBI spread about the Russian Hoax scandal,

In your whole attack on Erasmus tied in with the similar conduct by Mozart amounting t ahte-spreadng absed on flimsy allegations. You are free to hate spreading on site - but allegations must be stated as being based on allegations and on tat case it is not factual ntil reals upp-orting evidence is provided,

You are a;sp not beng objective,= thre sis a huge dfference of the game plans used in 2018 and 2019 a ell as tegame pln implemented after Borwne joined he squad in 2024 after Browne jpined the squad. But then Mozart and you pretented it did not happen - despite the fact that in 2024 the Springboks was the top test tryscoring team in the world.

By the way are you a medical sepcialist that could put together conclusions the way you tried to do in this case, It reall smelt like BS tp me bearing in mind te stress problems Swys encounter after the departure of Ackeramn was nearly a year before his nervous breakdown in New Zealand. In essense I wold check the facts and said it may be possible - put tat would stess the situation beyond words because you have zero scientifc or other eviddence to support your statement.. . . .

Listen dimness Ackerman left a year before Swys resigned . You must be the biggest fool in the world to believe that BS.

Swys had nervous breakdown problems in New Zealand and was checked and decided to come back home before the final tour match was played, . That was BEFORE he joined the coaching staff of Erasmus and he left Erasmus' providing a medical report indicating his stress-related problems using the same report at his resignation as Lions Head coach.

What caused your allegations are based alegations of nameless sources providing inside info as to what happened. In the normal world the leaking of inside info would have been investigated since it would have a negative impact on the fucntioning of any rganization. In this case it would have had a negative impact on team morale and it was likely investigated and found to be BS spreading lapped up by the site idiots - even comparable to the lies the CIA and FBI spread ttyo the emdia on the infamous Russian Hoax scandal,

In your whole attack on Erasmus tied in with the similar conduct by Mozart amounting to hate-spreadng based on flimsy allegations. You are free to hate spreading on site - but allegations must be stated as being based on allegations and in that case it is not factual until real supporting evidence is provided,

You are a;sp not beng objective,= thre sis a huge dfference of the game plans used in 2018 and 2019 a ell as tegame pln implemented after Borwne joined he squad in 2024 after Browne jpined the squad. But then Mozart and you pretented it did not happen - despite the fact that in 2024 the Springboks was the top test tryscoring team in the world.

By the way are you a medical sepcialist that could put together conclusions the way you tried to do in this case, It reall smelt like BS tp me bearing in mind te stress problems Swys encounter after the departure of Ackeramn was nearly a year before his nervous breakdown in New Zealand. In essense I wold check the facts and said it may be possible - put tat would stess the situation beyond words because you have zero scientifc or other eviddence to support your statement.. . . .

3 best examples of how slow Dud Allende is:

1 The French flanker hauls him in from behind in WC 2023

2 Nonu totally gasses him, offloads to Barrett the Boks lose the semi in WC 2015

3 Mo’unga runs round him for a try which could have lost WC2023, except an unrelated TMO call negated the try..

"Pakie the rugby dead head at work again with photos he gleaned from TV shows"

Ja god forbid we provide actual visuals or footage of what we're talking about so that people can go check and form their own opinions, hey? What a strange way of going about a discussion :)

Notice how these emotional, child like, posters react negatively to evidence. The insults flow…if you have no ability to reason everything has to be reduced to the lowest common denominator.

Mozart

Another lie distorted by you through serious BS spreading and one of yor lies were exposed that was exposed and when that happened you claimed that you are the best rugby analyst in the world, Nobody ohter than you claimed what happened was different totally from what actually happened in that match, I thought you did have some pride and would not repeat a proven lie and now you come up with it agan - must have no prode in yourself. Shame on you. .

Nothing was exposed….all 3 of those incidents happened exactly as described/

Mike's credibility = 0

Mike's credibility = 0 - 3

Stop being so polite Plum

Mike, up your game toppie