Springbok outside centre . . .

Duplication - sorry

 Well, I do know he was short and round and turned up in suspenders but no jacket to a club. He also has a ridiculous long hairdo and he does support the Boks so that is likely to be coloured green..I approached a police sketch artist and this is what he got:

Cleancut

At least w agree on Fat Frans.  

Alberts - have you seen his gut bulging out over his shorts when they sing the  National Anthem?   Gut the same size as Gurthro and that take some doing.  So no apology in his case.   

 Fat prick dave, smother tackle on Savea?? How so? Looks to me like Savea's arms are free to pop the ball off to any support runner. Great "smother" tackle..I think you need to learn what a smother tackle is.

His tackle with the Beast on Messam is a smother tackle. The ball can not be free'd up. You getting it now fatness?

Dave, one would think that your constant lashes at Jean to take the attention away from JJ would suggest that you are saying our captain and best back this year has actually not played better than JJ? Is this what you are saying? Are you saying JJ has been better than Jean this year?? Simple yes or no will do slob!

You are very right in your statement "JJ is not effecting the tackle on Lealifano!" That is true..JJ wouldn't know how to effect the tackle.

Never once did we say all the above tackles were missed tackles. We are drawing attention to his technique. A technique that will stop men but will also coast tries if you get it slightly wrong which JJ does. It is a much lower percentage technique than taking the legs. That is all we are exposing. His technique. Not his misses.

Etzebeth is miles away from Nonu. Nonu is almost standing on JJ's toes. How can Etzebeth go low? He is nowhere near the pace of Nonu or JJ which is why backs usually beat tight forwards. Etzebeth is scrambling, JJ is perfectly placed yet he chooses to stand straight up and hug the man (which Nonu might enjoy!) Dave, you would have really benefitted from playing the game when you had the chance. You would then see it as it actually is and not have this blurred perception.

Maybe if you were man enough to answer your phone instead of watching it ring, I could have brought you up to speed.

...and on that note your honour, I think no further action needs to be taken against this delusional critter. He has been schooled and that is sufficient for his crime of stupidity. I have no doubt he will be a repeat offender but we shall deal with each instance on its merits. Possibly next time we can enroll him in "Smallcock's school of rugby" and get him started on the entry level course of "Fat guys who know fuck all and clearly never played the game!" Give this man some corn and send him on his way sir!

 Tackles made 12...Tries scored 0...Points accrued for his team 0

Tackles missed 1... Turnovers conceded 1.... Tries leaked 2....Points given away 14

Most crucial stat: Rugby championships fucked up for SA - 1!!!

So you see Dave, stats can be determined anyway you want...JJ cost us 14 points in 1 game against the AB's..Running into trouble with no support and a brilliant attempt on Barrett. He never scored shit

Summary = defensive flop!

Answer my question fuck head...Is JJ better than Jean??

Actually I make it 21 points given away. In sequence we have the overrun of the set move which should have been successful, it was the perfect platform. Two the naive inside step away from all his support, followed by the easy take down by Nonu, followed by the Read strip, followed by the crushing half time try. Three the now infamous papier- mache tackle on Barrett to lose the RC.

Of course I could be wrong, maybe Morne would have missed the conversion...hahaha.

 David, answer the question put forth please.. I will highlight it for you because you seem to over look it..

Do you think JJ was better and more valuable to the Boks this year than Jean??

Simple question really. Yes or no...

Not accountable for a single point? We are not saying he was accountable for just a single point..It was 21 that he was accountable for fatness ;-)

So he was not accountable for Barrett's try?? Forget that question though and just answer the one highlighted in bold and underlined!

   Boklogic

As expected the Ellis Park test - like the Dunedin test - will never go away.   We get the prejudiced stupid attacking their counterparts about  what really went wrong.   The mythical assumptions are incredible and used to attack individual players.

To my mind it was a comedy or errors made by a number of players - like the Barrett try for example - all of De Villiers, Morne and Engelbrecht buggered up.  

If Engelbrecht did not overrun the ball and knocked it on a try would have been scored.   Maybe - or maybe not - but seeing that Morne should have realised that a pass will go awry -  should he not do what is unimaginable for him -  namely attack the gain line himself, instead  of making a pass that is almost certain to be knocked on?  Who to blame - obviously Engelbrecht - if you have it in for the guy already - but is Morne really not partly responsible?  

In the Messam second try case - should Morne not have kicked the ball into touch when the siren was about to go off?     OOPS Don't ask Naas Botha about that one - he already had a fit on TV - and a second reminder of that could be health threatening the poor bugger would have a seizure.

In the main it was a comedy of errors starting off by Kruger - cannot cover balls after kick-ins, Alberts' seriously flawed tackle attempt on Read - Morne's flawed tackle technique and robotic play - Engelbecht's flawed tackle technique and lack of ball sense.

The idea to blame only one player for the loss is not on.  Sure their are degrees of blame for poor decision making and  execution and one wonders who was the worst offender.  Morne's name came up in the case of every debacle - so he is likely to be first offender, followed by Alberts - who all on his own though clumsiness  buggered up badly before the Messam first try - and then there is Engelbrecht with his flawed tackle technique and lack of ball sense.