CLclevermike
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CLclevermikeCoach57,555 posts
30 Sept 2015, 18:05#1
15 Willie le Roux14 JP Pietersen13 Jesse Kriel12 Damien de Allende11 Bryan Habana10 Handre Pollard 9 Fourie du Preez (c) 8 Duane Vermeulen 7 Schalk Burger 6 Francois Louw 5 Lood de Jager 4 Eben Etzebeth 3 Jannie du Plessis 2 Bismarck du Plessis 1 Tendai Mtawarira
16 Adriaan Strauss17 Trevor Nyakane18 Frans Malherbe19 Pieter-Steph du Toit20 Willem Alberts21 Ruan Pienaar22 Patrick Lambie23 Jan Serfontein
CLclevermike
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CLclevermikeCoach57,555 posts
30 Sept 2015, 18:09#2
There are two weird selections - Du Plessis as prop and Alberts. Meyer said if Alberts did not play this week he would have been gone from the squad. Jannie flopped badly in scrumming thus far - but I think Meyer does not see him as a bench player and can replace him early if he flops again.
JWJust_win
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JWJust_winCaptain18,570 posts
30 Sept 2015, 18:19#3
Well, they finally selected the two locks many were crowing about. Against Oz they should do ok.
This must be what Meyer rates as the best available side as the game this weekend is critical & Oz are no slouches. We will get some answers about the defensive abilities of de Allende and Kriel. They can bring is Serfontein if things really go badly.
Captain is a bit of a surprise as Vermeulen & Burger are playing.
DBDbDraad
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DBDbDraadCaptain26,388 posts
30 Sept 2015, 18:20#4
Nothing surprising to me. I would have picked the same team, but would have had Morne and Paige on the bench ahead of Jan and Pienaar only because after this match only USA remains.
AJArthur John
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AJArthur JohnPro1,748 posts
30 Sept 2015, 18:23#5
Well judging by Meyer's selection of captain it confirms all the rumors that circulated around the time when Meyer was about to select a captain a few years back.
Fourie du Preez was and is his first choice as captain.
Also surprised that Paige was not considered or selected on the bench as scum-half.I would be surprised if he is not selected for the Eagles game.
What are the rules regarding players who do not play in the opening round with respect to the next round in WC rugby?
This team should have no issues handling the Scots but I would rather have had Strauss and Malherbe in the starting team.
Jannie is way past his best and Bizzy is a card waiting to happen unfortunately.
AJArthur John
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AJArthur JohnPro1,748 posts
30 Sept 2015, 18:26#6
Just Win.....a bit early for the OZ game don't u think.
The game is South Africa v Scotland this Saturday.
CLclevermike
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CLclevermikeCoach57,555 posts
30 Sept 2015, 18:29#8
JW
You must not have known - back in 2012 Meyer's first idea was to get Du Preez as captain. His second choice was Matfield. Du Preez was injured at the time and declined and Matfield was not convinced that he would like to start playing rugby again after his announced retirement. De Villiers was only Meyer's THIRD choice as captain.
Meyer never changes his ideas and in this case he went back to his first choice also because Matfield was injured in any event - so not really surprised at all.
JWJust_win
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JWJust_winCaptain18,570 posts
30 Sept 2015, 18:34#9
Arthur J, you are right, it's been a long day. The Poms will have to deal with Oz this weekend.
Haven't seen enough of the Scots to know if they will test the centers but if they wear their kilts they will at least surprise them
DBDbDraad
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DBDbDraadCaptain26,388 posts
30 Sept 2015, 18:44#11
Not surprised by FdP as captain. I would have preferred Thor, but prefer FdP to Scalla.
DBDbDraad
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DBDbDraadCaptain26,388 posts
30 Sept 2015, 20:03#13
FdP and SB are the best of friens as well, so no clash of ego's expected. I'm happy enough eith the choice.
sharkbok
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sharkbokCaptain23,281 posts
30 Sept 2015, 20:56#14
Looks like a decent team. FDP and Willie LeRoux are the brains of the operation. FDP seems to understand the gameplan better than Meyer so no issue with him being the captain
BEBeeno1
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BEBeeno1Captain40,032 posts
30 Sept 2015, 21:29#15
Meyer' s best selection thus far.
Perhaps Malherbe to start. perhaps Burger as Captain. No massive blunders.
Meyer expect tough battle with Scots pack.
Hope Allende and Kriel are fully fit.
This is.much better. sanity is returning!
How disappointing for the three musketeers.
SASaffolk
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SASaffolk Captain30,741 posts
30 Sept 2015, 21:44#16
Malherbe or Coenie ahead of Jannie. Move Schalk to 6 and play PSDT at 7 and all will be well....well almost.
CLclevermike
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CLclevermikeCoach57,555 posts
30 Sept 2015, 21:46#17
Beeno
I asked Mozart elsewhere whether he - like his fellow Musketeer is predicting a loss by the Springboks on Saturday - I somehow thinks he would not respond. Ceradunce is too stupid to respond to anything in any event.
30 Sept 2015, 22:00#18
The team is looking much better. Good mix of youth and experience.
The scots are playing some fantastic rugby and I would not drop my guard against them. The Japs has shown the way of how to play against SA and i think they will target Bismarck, Jannie and Estebeth for milking penalties or even carded. The Du Pleases brothers really loses their heads when things don't go their way.
Malherbe should have started, he has been massive at tight head, no idea why we have Coenie around, they should send him back as he pretty much single handedly gave the Japs the win.
No idea what alberts is still doing their. Would have done much better with kolisi on the bench or even having Coetzee in the squad.
The scots are really competitive on the ground so need to look out for penalties. They are also good at getting their line breaks. Need to keep it tight against them and make sure that we can dominate them through the maul. I would also deploy some pick and drives to keep them from fanning out and then picking up isolated runners. No point in shifting it wide to early. Few high bombs could help too.
SASaffolk
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SASaffolk Captain30,741 posts
30 Sept 2015, 22:05#19
Yep King it's looking like a real side for once....bar a few like Louw and Jannie in the starting 15 and Pienaar and Alberts on the bench
BEBeeno1
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BEBeeno1Captain40,032 posts
30 Sept 2015, 22:11#20
Thank goodness Coenie is NOT playing as he cant scrum. It will be interesting to see if Alberts can contribute.
This is the nearest we have got to getting it right for along time.Players like Kitshoff and marcell Coetzee could ahve made the match 23. Quibles there may be about the front row. Meyer thinks jannie can anchor the scrum against the Wiley scots.Its a good pack close to being a great pack. (More work ethic from the props needed)
backline is about as good as we can field. Some brain there and creativity.
Lets hope there are no further injuries as is this side gels we could go places.
Time to give the wee haggis bashers a very hard time. At last we have a tight five! Three warrior loose forwards!! A backline that can attack with a general in Fourie.
Dr Moz, DF and cerudunce windpomp must wo nder why all this is happening - they are so confused right now!
SASaffolk
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SASaffolk Captain30,741 posts
30 Sept 2015, 22:21#21
What utter fucking rubbish re Coenie s scrumming. He was great in the scrums during the s15 and in the tests he played.
You clowns know fuck all
ABABasquefan
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30 Sept 2015, 22:24#22
you've been very lucky with the injuries,...... may be the only team in the world to which injuries strengthen instead of weaken.
Now without Matfield and JdV the boks have some chances of beating the Scottish,.... though the team could be improved in many ways (Alberts, Jannie, Louw,...) it's a competitive team.
But Scotland are going to be a tough rival,..... they've been so in the last matches against the boks,.... their forward pack can match boks' set pieces and when this happens the boks have many dificulties to develop their game.
The breakdown battle will be crucial,..... very interesting game
SASaffolk
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SASaffolk Captain30,741 posts
30 Sept 2015, 22:28#23
Spot on AB....injuries have saved us
AGAgPleezDeddy
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AGAgPleezDeddyClub Pro900 posts
01 Oct 2015, 00:37#25
I like this team a lot, there's nothing I would outright change. If Lood/Etzebeth work, then imagine the luxury of bringing Matfield on in the last 20 minutes of knockout games with all his experience.
It will be interesting to see what Alberts has left.
Harsh on Strauss to be dropped, he played well vs Samoa. Nyakane (I think more of him as a player every time I see him play) too.
No complaints with Du Preez as skipper, even though Schalk would have been my choice.
01 Oct 2015, 02:05#26
Took injuries to get your best locking and centre pair. Lood, Estebeth and Kriel, De Allende.
MOMonsterBok
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MOMonsterBokClub Pro442 posts
01 Oct 2015, 02:06#27
Very good team, as most have mentioned the Louw and Jannie issue. No real alternatives to achieve a well balanced pack. Thank God Coenie's not there. absolutely useless. Let's see what fat Alberts has.Backline run on and bench is good.
MOMonsterBok
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MOMonsterBokClub Pro442 posts
01 Oct 2015, 02:10#28
Draad,If we are successful this weekend I'm sure nucklehead Meyer will have Rudy on the bench against the good ol US of A.Banana Pienaar is the right call. He sux, but it's the right call.
01 Oct 2015, 10:42#31
Any of you SA blogger know why Arno Botha not getting a look in? Unless he is overseas now. Always thought he was big, strong, good ball carrier. Could be an asset for the boks, even as lock cover.
01 Oct 2015, 11:16#33
Oh okay, imo I would have him at 6 . Botha 7. Burger 8. Vermulen
SASaffolk
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SASaffolk Captain30,741 posts
01 Oct 2015, 11:29#34
Coetzee, Botha and Vermeulen would be a better combo
DBDbDraad
Captain26,388 posts
DBDbDraadCaptain26,388 posts
01 Oct 2015, 12:16#35
WTF is Botha...Bakkies retired ages ago
DBDbDraad
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DBDbDraadCaptain26,388 posts
01 Oct 2015, 15:33#37
Yep, Blik, Arno looks good, but he was a bit injury prone to date. I'm sure he will get his chance next year...or even at the end of this year.
SASaffolk
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SASaffolk Captain30,741 posts
01 Oct 2015, 15:38#38
Bring Bakkies back I say.......as an 8!!
AGAgPleezDeddy
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AGAgPleezDeddyClub Pro900 posts
01 Oct 2015, 16:25#39
Damn, didn't realise Arno was still so young, only 23
