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Springboks should beat Aussie

Started by 3ku117 REPLIES616 VIEWS· 14 Jul 2015, 11:03
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3ku1Pro2,580 posts
14 Jul 2015, 11:03
#1
14 Jul 2015, 11:03#1

I like the fact Meyer has blooded youth in the backline. A backline combo of 15. Le Roux 14. Senalta 13. Kriel 12. De Allende 11. Habana 10. Pollard 9. Reinach would be killer. They did good againgst Wxv. Forwards need to pick it up though. Should be too strong up front. I think after the worst SA super 15 campaign ever. Theirs a chance to gain a bit of rep before the RWC. 

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Saffolk Captain30,741 posts
14 Jul 2015, 11:12
#2
14 Jul 2015, 11:12#2
Sadly the only reason you will see Kriel and de Allende in the backline is because Fourie is fat and Jean is injured......Senatla has not smelt the side thanks to ignorant Meyer and don't be surprised to see useless Morne at 10 against Oz  
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bluebokPro3,977 posts
14 Jul 2015, 11:23
#3
14 Jul 2015, 11:23#3
I think there is a lot more riding on this game than people realise. If we win, our useless Super Rugby campaign will be quickly forgotten, but if we lose, mentally, we will not only believe we are inferior player for player "otherwise we would have done better in Super Rugby", but we will also be very aware that we have lost to a side that is some way behind the AB's. How could we possibly beat the AB's? 
It is a confidence game at the moment, and if we have a very poor RC, there will be serious doubts about our ability to perform at the WC. An away win against Aus will make anything possible, a loss will mean a massive mountain to climb, with a mountain that keeps growing!
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DennyCaptain12,893 posts
14 Jul 2015, 11:33
#4
14 Jul 2015, 11:33#4

S15 has no bearing on the RC or the RWC.


If the Boks get the basics right they'll be just fine. 

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Saffolk Captain30,741 posts
14 Jul 2015, 11:35
#5
14 Jul 2015, 11:35#5
My call is that the Boks thanks to Meyers pathetic selections will lose to Oz  
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bluebokPro3,977 posts
14 Jul 2015, 11:43
#6
14 Jul 2015, 11:43#6
Denny, it is simple, lets take NZ for example, their player pool is stronger than ours, as indicated by the dominance of their Super Rugby franchises in this years competition! If you have 100 strong player to chose a team from vs someone else who has only 50 strong players to chose from, chances are your team will be stronger. Its not an exact science, but it is logical. 
That said, I agree we should "be just fine", but not if we have a very poor RC, and we have a squad of players that lack self belief. 
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DennyCaptain12,893 posts
14 Jul 2015, 11:48
#7
14 Jul 2015, 11:48#7

 "That said, I agree we should "be just fine", but not if we have a very poor RC, and we have a squad of players that lack self belief."


Bingo!


You've nailed it.

CL
clevermikeCoach57,555 posts
14 Jul 2015, 12:00
#8
14 Jul 2015, 12:00#8
 Meyer is bound to make stupid selections like Mporne Steyn, Ruan Pienaar, Victor Matfield and Jannie du Plessis and that will give the Springbosk about a 10% chancen of winning the test.   
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DennyCaptain12,893 posts
14 Jul 2015, 12:07
#9
14 Jul 2015, 12:07#9
 Are you predicting a Bok loss?
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Saffolk Captain30,741 posts
14 Jul 2015, 12:21
#10
14 Jul 2015, 12:21#10

Disagree that our talent pool is less than that of NZ based on the S15 performances - our S15 coaches mostly get their selections wrong and sides like the Sharks were depleted with injuries.


We have as much talent, if not more than NZ, but apart from Ackerman, our S15 coaches leave a lot to be desired.


SA rugby is let down by its coaches in a big, big way both at S15 and national level.


S15 results this year are not a reflection on the talent pool in SA


To think, players like Taute, Senatla, Pat Howard, Jean, Kobus v/Wyk, Ruan Botha, Jean Kleyn, Elstadt, Rhodes, Carr, Lood, Sadie, Coenie, Rhule, Jean Cook, Oupa, Arno Botha, Visser, Serfontein, Buyers, v/Zyl, Mellett, Visagie, Hattingh, RG Snyman, Jason Jenkins, Liebenberg, Mnisi, Watermeyer, SP Marais, Jordaan, Frans, Tyler Fisher, Swiel, Lambie, Reinach, Thomas du Toit, Cooper, PSDT, Lewies, Alberts, Deysel, Mtembu etc saw little S15 action for various reasons

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3ku1Pro2,580 posts
14 Jul 2015, 12:42
#11
14 Jul 2015, 12:42#11
 SA have just amount of talent. Difference is NZ management and selections are more aware of the quality of the talent, opposed to the quantity of the talent. NZ also mostly always get their selections bang on. SA don't. That's the real difference to me. I well admit one of the reasons why NZ has had the wood over the Boks is selection. Having M Steyn at flyhalf for those years really benefited NZ. Now Wee Matfield still playing international rugby is a bit of a farce. I reckon if boks get their selections right they are prob the only team who can challenge NZ, well they are you beat us last year lol.
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DennyCaptain12,893 posts
14 Jul 2015, 12:48
#12
14 Jul 2015, 12:48#12
South Africa has talent, NZ has talent and.....better skills.  
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JeromeVClub Pro492 posts
14 Jul 2015, 12:50
#13
14 Jul 2015, 12:50#13

Even with weak links like Jannie, Pienaar and JP the boks are still competent to get the job done.

I'm predicting the boks to win by a comfortable margin. The forwards have the power to dominate up front and the backline can really fire with Damian creating opportunities.

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3ku1Pro2,580 posts
14 Jul 2015, 12:55
#14
14 Jul 2015, 12:55#14
 I think NZ does have a edge with their loose forwards are more mobile and athletic, especially their skills kinda like back skills. 
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Saffolk Captain30,741 posts
14 Jul 2015, 13:14
#15
14 Jul 2015, 13:14#15

3ku1, you are spot on.......therein lies the difference......if we had the Kiwi coaches we would be at the top of the rugby pile of that I am convinced.


Just look at our depth at prop for instance......Jannie, Beast, Thomas du Toit, Chadwick, Kebble, Kitshoff, Malherbe, Koch, S.v/d Merwe, Coenie, Maks v/Dyk, Mellett, Marcel v/d Merwe and Nyakane......do NZ have this kind of depth?

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Ka MateClub Pro246 posts
14 Jul 2015, 13:27
#16
14 Jul 2015, 13:27#16
Saffex: "do NZ have this kind of depth?"


Well bro, I could rattle off the names of every NZ Super Rugby prop (pretty much all that you have done) and simply say "YES" except I'd add "if not better"!!
KM
Ka MateClub Pro246 posts
14 Jul 2015, 13:32
#17
14 Jul 2015, 13:32#17
All Blacks to win by 30 and Wallabies to win by 5. Yarpies to cry about the refs and call everyone cheats.
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clevermikeCoach57,555 posts
14 Jul 2015, 13:45
#18
14 Jul 2015, 13:45#18
 I am of the opinion that Meyer has mucked up his selection strategies so badly over the past three years that we now is saddled with reputation players whose present performances are sub-par.   
He is not helped by dud coaches on lower level with similar - if not worse - tendencies in player selection.   The coaches are limited to and only one Ackerman has a more comprehensive game plan.  
So what can be expected on Saturday - I think the Springboks will lose if Meyer persisted with players like JP Pietersen (the Snail), Morne Steyn (the Match-loser) Ruan Pienaar (the Robot), Victor Matfield (the Moonlighter) and Jannie du Plessis (the Scrum Back-pedlar).      
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