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Super Rugby's burning questions: What's wrong with the Crusaders this season?; Rugby Stuff

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Just_winCaptain18,570 posts
29 May 2015, 07:33
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29 May 2015, 07:33#1


What's wrong with the Crusaders - and can it be fixed?

Toby Robson (Wellington): There are two major factors at play in the Crusaders malaise. One, they're nearing the end of a great era with Richie McCaw and Dan Carter managing their bodies and workloads and unable to simply will those around them to great feats, and fullback Israel Dagg is perennially injured. Secondly, they have stagnated in the way they play. The modern game has become about power running and offloads and they are the two things the Crusaders simply don't have in the midfield right now. Can it be fixed? Yes, but they'll need to find a first five-eighth and some physicality in the midfield next season. There remains a good young core to build around with promising futures ahead for the likes of Jordan Taufua, David Havili, Codie Taylor, Jimmy Tupou and Jone Macilai.

Liam Napier (Auckland): The empire is certainly crumbling before our eyes but there's no one problem. Predictable attack - the frustrating tendency to drift across field without straightening - and a lack of punch from the midfield have been major concerns for some time. The Crusaders should have moved Nemani Nadolo closer in, played Dan Carter at 10 and Colin Slade at fullback when they had the chance. Todd Blackadder hasn't been helped by underperforming All Blacks who are, no doubt, subconsciously thinking beyond this Super Rugby campaign. Injuries are another issue, but all sides endure. That's not an excuse. The playoffs are, realistically, gone and the expectant Christchurch public won't take that kindly. Next year also requires a massive rebuild. Challenging times indeed.   

Richard Knowler (Christchurch): Inaccurate execution and a predictable game plan can be corrected - not that it will help them because they are toast as far as this season is concerned. It's far too late for rescue missions. They require a miracle to make the playoffs and a win in Nelson will only offer false hope. Their inconsistent form doesn't warrant a finals position.

Is Will Skelton Australia's next antagonistic Quade Cooper?

Robson: Yes and no. Skelton doesn't appear to have the personality to get under New Zealanders skins like Cooper did. However, he does have the size, skill and attitude to be a problem for the All Blacks in years to come. Usually when New Zealanders start talking about disliking an Australian sportsman it's because they're very good. Skelton should probably tone it down a tad after his Sydney antics against the Crusaders, but his hardnosed attitude is exactly what the Wallabies need.

Napier: Seems to be setting himself up that way. Skelton's performance against the Crusaders last week was nothing short of thuggish; his two-week suspension well deserved. Perhaps you could give him the benefit of the doubt had it been one incident, but at least three times he overstepped the mark. Skelton is a man mountain. With the right attitude, he has the potential to add a much-needed physical edge to the Wallabies pack. But someone needs to pull him aside and serve a subtle reminder that playing the fool didn't work out well for Cooper.

Knowler: It depends whether Michael Cheika considers him a frontline test player and whether Skelton can risk playing the big shot on that stage. The repercussions from acting like an unhinged pub patron at that level are much more serious. Especially in World Cup year.

Injuries excluded, if a 31-man All Blacks squad was named tomorrow who is your bolter?

Robson Two. One is Hurricanes lock James Broadhurst who has put together a mountain of evidence that he can mix his natural skills with work-rate and physicality this season. He's offering more than some more established alternatives. Two is Highlanders wing Waisake Naholo who has chewed up metres, beat defenders and played with a low error rate for most of the year. Big enough to set up phase play from the blindside and quick enough and strong enough to finish the smallest opportunities.

Napier: Can't go past Nehe Milner-Skudder's irresistible form. This kid can play. Naholo presents a compelling case but Milner-Skudder's versatility and ball playing skills, honed by a two-year stint in Sydney league, set him apart.

Knowler: As a third halfback option the Chiefs' Brad Weber warrants close scrutiny.

Highlanders and Chiefs... who ya got and why?

Robson: Highlanders, but this should be as entertaining as it is close. The Chiefs, already down on locks, will miss talisman loose forward Liam Messam who pulled out late with injury. Not playing under the Forsyth Barr Stadium roof could be a major factor for the home team if the weather closes in, but the combined kicking games of Lima Sopoaga and Aaron and Ben Smith means the Highlanders are well equipped for a territorial battle.

Napier: Even down on star power the Chiefs pack should give them the edge. Deflections don't come any bigger than Brodie Retallick and Liam Messam but this team thrives on adversity. The McKenzie brothers are sure to be motivated for their Invercargill homecoming and it seems the Chiefs are again building at the right time. After a long trip back from Perth the Highlanders may run out of puff and conditions won't favour their attacking-minded outsides.   

Knowler: Chiefs by a point. The Highlanders have endured a tough three weeks on the road and their energy levels may be starting to dip. The Chiefs forwards will be up for this

CL
clevermikeCoach57,555 posts
29 May 2015, 08:18
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29 May 2015, 08:18#2
JW
I have looked at all the Crusader matches and came to the conclusion that there are three major reasons for the present problems of the Crusaders.   
I would try and summarize the reasons - but am afraid what I am going to write will not make thee NZ members on the site very happy:-
Under-performance by most of the All Blacks in the team
There is only one AB in the team who did not under-perform and that was Sam Whitelock.  The rest may have been managing their bodies - but in reality they have under-performed.   I think that the fact that the AB's management tried desperately to extend the careers of Mc Caw and Carter has backfired on them and both players this year was in reality  bog-ordinary - not the stars they used to be.   Matter of fact - in some respects they were a handicap iro the team performances. 
What happened in the case of Read is another mystery.  He did not have a good enough Super 15 - there was virtually nothing in evidence of his star performances over the last two years.
Dagg seems to be always injured but played in too few matches to contribute to the progress of the team in Super 15.
The mid-field situation
There seems to be no stability in the selection of  centers.  Crotty is not star material - I think he is rather ordinary compared to other NZ centers and he was never really playing a dominating part at center.  For the rest the center selection was a lottery ticket.
The Prop Situation
None of the above writers mentioned this as a problem, but it is one.  Crockett was found out mid-way through the tournament as being scrumming illegally and that led to a series of problems for the rest of the season.  Owen Franks this year was a joke in bad taste.   The Crusaders will have to fix that problem.
Conclusion
The Crusaders has made the same mistake as is perennial in SA team selection - they stuck with the "dead wood" for too long without bringing in new players through a process of team renewal.   There are a few younger players - but again far too few.       
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bobbok...Captain10,129 posts
29 May 2015, 11:27
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29 May 2015, 11:27#3
 Not much as a rejuvenated Crusties crush the Canes 35-18 with a bonus point victory . Grand display from Carter .
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ABasquefanPro2,549 posts
29 May 2015, 14:56
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29 May 2015, 14:56#4
 firstly, the saders are not out yet.
If the brumbies don't get a 4 try-bonus point next week and the saders get it against the blues, all will be decided in the last match of the season btwin the 2 teams. Dificult but not impossible at all.

As to the saders' problems this season, they are all reduce to one: the coaching staff, as it has been for the last 3 or 4 seasons.
There have been 2 main problems:
- The defensive weakness. The coaching staff have been unable to establish a decent defensive plan and therefore the missing tackles (specially in the backline) have been excesive and they have lead to some of the loses.
-The attacking system against rushing defenses. While the attack with Slade at 10 and Carter and Crotty as centers worked excellently against the weaker teams (Sharks, Cheetahs, reds), against the stronger teams that practice a rushing defense like chiefs or canes it fell apart (tahs also practiced it but they won just because an inexperienced ref).
There was an obvious need of changing the attack against those teams but the coaching team has been completely unable to do it. They have stuck once and again with the same attacking system.
As one of the asked journalist said, "The Crusaders should have moved Nemani Nadolo closer in, played Dan Carter at 10 and Colin Slade at fullback when they had the chance."
As I've been also saying for a long time, against those teams Carter should have played at 10, Nadolo at 12 and Slade at fullback or wing. Nadolo is able just himself at 12 (where he plays for Fiji) to break any rushing defense or when this is not possible to attract defenders and open gaps outside him for offloading.
This was a need for the team but also for the AB. Carter is still the nº1 option for the flyhalf role in the WC and untill this weekend he has not played there. He was playing very good out of his natural position and as he begun to show against canes and will show it more clearly the next games, he's still the best 10 in the world.
(mike, the fact that Matfield at 38 is not up to the test level doesn't mean that every player past the 30 is in the same boat. Carter is the best 10 and McCaw the best captain in the history. Both will play the WC if injuries permit it).

Now that Slade got injured and Freuan is back this problem could fix itself but not because any contribution of the coaching staff. Hope they at least can see it.
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WardadPro6,663 posts
29 May 2015, 15:06
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29 May 2015, 15:06#5
 There you are ,all fixed!
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