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Tackling stats...Stormers centres

Started by Mozart16 REPLIES1,266 VIEWS· 04 May 2015, 21:45
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MozartCaptain49,914 posts
04 May 2015, 21:45
#1
04 May 2015, 21:45#1

These stats are from the 10 games where both de Jongh and de Allende were on the park:

 

de Allende 67 tackles made....89 attempted.....success rate 75%

 

 

de Jongh 48 tackles made.....64 attempted.....success rate 75%

 

The stunning rubbish Moronic produces about de Jongh's defence while talking up de Allende's defence is of course typical of his bankrupt BS. The only difference I can see is de Jongh goes for a lot of low prob ability forcing tackles behind the game line.

 

 

The trouble with this kind of deception is, one naturally assumes the old provincial bureaucrat is being truthful, when he isnt.  Most posters dont have the time to fact check this deceitful man's posting, so erroneously accept the information they are given.

 

 

The truth is de Allende has been brilliant ball in hand this year, but his defence remains a work in progress.

MO
moolaaPro2,380 posts
04 May 2015, 21:55
#2
04 May 2015, 21:55#2
 De Allende's defence is non-existent for a big bloke. I'm hoping he makes the starting 15 for the Boks as he will surely be found wanting badly at the next level up.
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AgPleezDeddyClub Pro900 posts
04 May 2015, 22:08
#3
04 May 2015, 22:08#3
 Hopefully his defence improves because he's a huge weapon with ball in hand.
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clevermikeCoach57,555 posts
05 May 2015, 01:22
#4
05 May 2015, 01:22#4
 The stunning rubbish Mozart produces about De Jongh is classical.  I am one who said that the only question mark  iro De Allende is his tendency to miss tackles - but then I look at the matches and see what makes up the majority of his missed tackles and found that it is when he had to cover for other players missing their tackles - one culprit of which is De Jongh.   I never published on this site any stats on De Allende's defense and this liar is trying to get away with his normal slurs and out right lies.
However, there are positives in De Allende's performance totally missing in the performances of De Jongh and that is his ability to regularly make line breaks and beat tackles - he has the second highest stats in line breaks in the whole of Super 15 and the highest number of defenders beaten.  
This is the same kind of personal vendetta based on false information and represent Mozart as the most vindictive piece of BS on this site.  Secondly the so-called provincial bureaucrat story is based on utter lies on the part of the village idiot.   
MO
MozartCaptain49,914 posts
05 May 2015, 01:45
#5
05 May 2015, 01:45#5
The old bureaucrat  had no clue the stats were so equivalent, else he wouldnt have called out Frans  and de Jongh. Now he is supposedly incensed about a personal attack, whining about  this constructive string being a vendetta. A bit of a laugh given his own form in the personal attack arena!
Here's the thing Detritus, you aren't significant enough to warrant a vendetta.
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clevermikeCoach57,555 posts
05 May 2015, 01:59
#6
05 May 2015, 01:59#6
 Balls - every statement of yours is based on lies and misrepresentations.   The biggest liar on this site. 
The liar does not realize that the stats of both Steyn and De Jongh is not the only reason why they are so bad.  The real problem is De Allende has the ability to off-set his tackle stats by showing major positives in other aspects of his game - while De Jongh and Steyn shows virtually no positives in any other aspects of the game.
But then Mozart does not understand rugby and he would base a whole criterium of player performance evaluation on one incident is a tournament - so what else can be expected from a proven liar.     
MO
MozartCaptain49,914 posts
05 May 2015, 02:06
#7
05 May 2015, 02:06#7
Proven liar.....hmmm....produce the proof Detritus. And don't quote my opinions, opinions are just that....a point of view. Lies are deliberate misstatements of the truth.

Produce one of those lies if you can Detritus. Given how many times you accuse me of lying you should be able to produce one.
Go ahead the floor is yours. 
CL
clevermikeCoach57,555 posts
05 May 2015, 02:25
#8
05 May 2015, 02:25#8
 The first one is that you say I was a "provincial bureaucrat" and repeating that - while I never worked for any provincial administration.
The others are endless manufacturing of player disinformation on performances.    
MO
MozartCaptain49,914 posts
05 May 2015, 02:33
#9
05 May 2015, 02:33#9
The disinformation is just opinion you don't agree with....produce a factual misstatement.  
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clevermikeCoach57,555 posts
05 May 2015, 02:37
#10
05 May 2015, 02:37#10
 I would not even try, because the disinformation is constant and repeated on this site all the time.  I prefer not to try and list same - since it will take hours and will have no effect - you will just keep on repeating the BS.  
MO
MozartCaptain49,914 posts
05 May 2015, 02:42
#11
05 May 2015, 02:42#11
Produce one case where I have knowingly provided wrong facts about a player....go ahead. 

In your case for example you opined on  how bad Adi Jacobs was in a match against Oz he never even played in..there's your lie 
CL
clevermikeCoach57,555 posts
05 May 2015, 08:54
#12
05 May 2015, 08:54#12
 Lets start with the following:-
*   Du Toit his thin wrists and thin shoulders
*   Malherbe is flat on his face in scrums
*   Without realising that Vorster is an inside center - you made a claim he is slow
*   You use stats when it fits your book - and when it does not you ignore them.
*   You lie regularly about what happened on the field of play in what you call Morzoscopes.
*   Your lies about players you dislike is endless and the lies about performances of players you like is notorious.
I can go into detail in many more cases and in every case the lies would be clearer.  The above is not impressions and opinions - it is factual lies you dispense continuously on this site.
    
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CeradynePro9,374 posts
05 May 2015, 11:08
#13
05 May 2015, 11:08#13
  ".......- but then I look at the matches and see what makes up the majority of his missed tackles and found that it is when he had to cover for other players missing their tackles - one culprit of which is De Jongh......." 
Classic. 





MO
MozartCaptain49,914 posts
05 May 2015, 14:49
#14
05 May 2015, 14:49#14

Okay let's check those out:

 

1) I said du Toit has thin wrists because that's what the picture I provided showed. If you didn't think the picture showed thin writs....that was a matter of opinion.

 

2) Malherbe was flat on his face in the Bargie tests.....he was also flat on his face in the Bulls game. You may surmis e that was because Greyling was the only culprit....but as the commentator said, both the props had their feet way back.....no lie.

 

3) I said Vortster looked slow when he made the break early in the game against the Cheetahs....again a qualified opinion.

 

 

4) I use stats when they prove my point certainly....but I would never use stats to claim something is true when I know there are stats that disprove my point.

 

 

So there we are. You can't even prove one lie.....so your claim that I lie all the time, is in fact a big fat lie.

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clevermikeCoach57,555 posts
05 May 2015, 15:12
#15
05 May 2015, 15:12#15
 F#ck the dimwit has just proved again that he states his personal vendetta opinions as facts - while in fact they are in fact outright lies.   He quotes an incident that was inconclusive as a fact and when challenged he comes up with it as his personal opinion.
When personal opinions are repeated without any factual support basis or stats - they represent falsehoods and disinformation dressed up as personal opinions.   They are in fact slanderous lies.  That is why one can never trust anything Mozart ever writes  on this site as factual.
You turn outright falsehoods into "personal opinions" and keep repeating them on this site as if they are factual.    That is when "personal opinions" based on disinformation turns into lies.   Dumb idiot - you fail to understand that.  
     
 
MO
MozartCaptain49,914 posts
05 May 2015, 15:24
#16
05 May 2015, 15:24#16

So you can't produce one example....I thought not.

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CeradynePro9,374 posts
05 May 2015, 15:43
#17
05 May 2015, 15:43#17
  "F#ck the dimwit has just proved again that he states his personal vendetta opinions as facts - while in fact they are in fact outright lies.   He quotes an incident that was inconclusive as a fact and when challenged he comes up with it as his personal opinion."
Hahahaha. FFS, mate. Do your ever proof read what you write?

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