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The Antipodean challenge

Started by Kitchener128 REPLIES3,201 VIEWS· 30 Aug 2015, 09:35
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becsPro4,378 posts
31 Aug 2015, 15:44
#41
31 Aug 2015, 15:44#41
 You constantly tell me I am ignorant and stupid, Saffex. 
The fact that I can think of myriad Schools where the parents pay a fortune in fees and get the little darlings taught by " Directors of Rugby ", instead of a good old P.E teacher in an ill fitting tracksuit , who never get near an England shirt as opposed to those who go to those bog standard State Schools that do make the grade, just says it all really, doesn't it ? 
Why, DA ? Do you want to watch ? 
SA
Saffolk Captain30,741 posts
31 Aug 2015, 16:34
#42
31 Aug 2015, 16:34#42
 Name the schools stop fucking ducking and diving....woman up and name them 
BE
becsPro4,378 posts
31 Aug 2015, 17:59
#43
31 Aug 2015, 17:59#43
 Woman up ?! Ha ha ha ! Unlike you, I don't have a chart on my wall containing the Top 100 Schools Rugby Teams, Saffex. As you well know, I am a barren old trout, so I don't really spend a lot of time watching young boys in shorts on the glorious fields of England. 
I do know that KES Aston was the Natwest Schools Cup Vase Semi Finalist last year, that Moulton College is obviously very highly thought of these days and that both Skinner's and Sir Thomas Richard's are in the Top 10 Schools 7's sides. 
I also know that a high percentage of Grammar Schools are still State Schools and are run accordingly, so I really don't know why you would wish to remove them from your extensive list ? 
I could also add that Ben Cohen attended Kingsthorpe Upper ( now Kingsthorpe Community College ) 
That is 4 recent/current England players, including RWC winners, that I have listed for you, all of whom attended State Schools. 
SA
Saffolk Captain30,741 posts
31 Aug 2015, 20:51
#44
31 Aug 2015, 20:51#44
Oh wow, the vase semi finalists......geez.......there is a reason no-one has heard of KES Aston.......or Thomas Richard's for that matter.
I have already said that Grammar schools play rugby......that's not up for debate......so wake up and work out the reason they are not part of the list.
As I have said, govt schools in England are crap at sport, for sport is not given the time of day.....that includes rugby, so trying to tell me the opposite tells me you are either blissfully ignorant or...................
Um, the fact that the likes of Cohen etc made it as rugby players has stuff all to do with their schools and everything to do with the clubs they would have played for as juniors and thats a fact.
I am not after players names, I am after a list of govt schools that are a force in rugby.....you are yet to name a single one, so try again.
It might save you looking a fool trying to tell me that govt schools play rugby at some respectable level......one would swear I was new to England, had not coached at junior level or had kids attend England schools - how fucking insulting

AJ
Arthur JohnPro1,748 posts
31 Aug 2015, 21:11
#45
31 Aug 2015, 21:11#45
 Kitchener you obviously live in that prime area of London called Hackney.
Sout Piel.
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becsPro4,378 posts
31 Aug 2015, 22:52
#46
31 Aug 2015, 22:52#46
Oh wow, yeah, the competition wasn't filled to the brim with Public Schools, now was it ? Which, by your reckoning, it should be. 
And, whether you have heard of those teams or not, number 4 and number 8 in the 7's Schools teams for this Season are definitely State Schools. There may be more, I do not know. 
Ben Cohen played for Old Scouts. Heard of them ? 
Sport in State Schools is poor, is it ? Not bothered with ? Tell me where Paula Radcliffe, Greg Rutherford and Louis Smith went to School ( just off the top of my head ) and I also know you have heard of the School where the current Backs Coach of Exeter Chiefs studied. I think you'll find none of those attended a Public School, did they ? 
As you do nothing but call me a fool, an idiot, stupid or ignorant, I think you really do have some front accusing anyone else of being insulting. 
DA
Devil's AdvocatePro7,008 posts
01 Sept 2015, 07:40
#47
01 Sept 2015, 07:40#47
becs
 
Status: Bok regular 
Posts: 1871RE: The Antipodean challenge
August 31, 2015, 15:44:12

Why, DA ? 

Do you want to watch ? 


Get over yourself Becs
The last thing I want, or need to see, is that 
In fact, I almost just threw up a little bit in my mouth now just reading that

 
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becsPro4,378 posts
01 Sept 2015, 11:30
#48
01 Sept 2015, 11:30#48
 It was a joke, DA. 
Maybe you should take your own advice and  " get over yourself "

DA
Devil's AdvocatePro7,008 posts
01 Sept 2015, 12:06
#49
01 Sept 2015, 12:06#49
Becs, rather just let anyone get over you
It might just lighten your mood 
BE
becsPro4,378 posts
01 Sept 2015, 12:10
#50
01 Sept 2015, 12:10#50
I was the one making a light-hearted comment. Not the one reacting like a grumpy brat, DA. 
Would you have just made the same comment to a male poster ? 
DA
Devil's AdvocatePro7,008 posts
01 Sept 2015, 12:33
#51
01 Sept 2015, 12:33#51
I also made a light-hearted comment
Is your comment only considered light-hearted because you are a female?
Lmao, get off your high horse lady
BE
becsPro4,378 posts
01 Sept 2015, 12:46
#52
01 Sept 2015, 12:46#52
 It was just a query. 
I'm not on a horse, I find equines fairly difficult to mount, under the circumstances ! 
DA
Devil's AdvocatePro7,008 posts
01 Sept 2015, 12:55
#53
01 Sept 2015, 12:55#53
There are far more easier things to mount Becs, that are much lower down .....Like a bicycle 
DB
DbDraadCaptain26,388 posts
01 Sept 2015, 12:56
#54
01 Sept 2015, 12:56#54
 Shyt,  some funny stuff,  especially with the wordblock highlighting certain words. Pun paradise! 
Becks, I'm sure DA has some issues with equestrian  mounting as well. 


BE
becsPro4,378 posts
01 Sept 2015, 13:01
#55
01 Sept 2015, 13:01#55
 I can't mount those either, DA.....even with stabilisers. It truly is a sorry state of affairs ! 

I thought he would be an accomplished bareback rider, Draad ! 
DB
DbDraadCaptain26,388 posts
01 Sept 2015, 13:03
#56
01 Sept 2015, 13:03#56
 Kitchener's stuff is even funnier when keeping in mind who actually wrote it.  That Lambie compliment should have been a giveaway,  obviously intended for Foxie. Pity he's absent. 
DA
Devil's AdvocatePro7,008 posts
01 Sept 2015, 13:08
#57
01 Sept 2015, 13:08#57
On the contrary Db
I called my last girlfriend Mountain Dew, due to her obvious capabilities
The one before that I called Brandy, given that it's the name of a hard liquor
DE
DennyCaptain12,893 posts
01 Sept 2015, 13:09
#58
01 Sept 2015, 13:09#58
 "Pity he's absent"...naaaah....he's around...lurking. Pouring every morsel of a post.
DB
DbDraadCaptain26,388 posts
01 Sept 2015, 13:14
#59
01 Sept 2015, 13:14#59
 No,  I mean Card. He has a way with words and Lambie is on of his tells. 
JW
Just_winCaptain18,570 posts
01 Sept 2015, 13:28
#60
01 Sept 2015, 13:28#60
DB & Denny: Glad to see the "cult of the duck" is growing
DA & Becs,on the matter of mounting, the circumstances are important, lol 
I see we can use the edit block program to make our naughty puns for us & therefore defeat its purpose The Irony, I love it!
JW
Just_winCaptain18,570 posts
01 Sept 2015, 13:28
#61
01 Sept 2015, 13:28#61
Becs, the ratings don't mean much this close to the RWC. They are used to help determine the teams that will play in the RWC but that was determined a long time ago for RWC 2015.
DE
DennyCaptain12,893 posts
01 Sept 2015, 13:30
#62
01 Sept 2015, 13:30#62
 Yes JW, I've noticed. What's that again about the start of the Duck Cult?
JW
Just_winCaptain18,570 posts
01 Sept 2015, 13:40
#63
01 Sept 2015, 13:40#63
Denny: I was referring to an earlier post of yours under the thread JW where you said "this could turn into a cult thingie".
Would pass the time of day if other posters used a version of a duck avatar to make their statement. So far there are three.
SA
Saffolk Captain30,741 posts
01 Sept 2015, 14:01
#64
01 Sept 2015, 14:01#64

In 7's get a fucking grip who gives a shit about 7's.....ah so you reckon the schools Radcliffe, Rutherford and co went to would have taken athletics seriously and it was down to their schools that saw them make it in the sport - what utter bullshit, these athletes would have belonged to clubs......govt schools would have had little input.


Fuck you are stupid you really are if you think you can tell me that sport is taken seriously in govt schools. Joke of the century.....I know for a FACT, sport is given very little attention in govt schools apart from PE lessons......govt schools don't have teams at every age group playing matches against other govt schools.....when they do (say in rugby) its usually with a team made up of 6 players who can play rugby and the rest get to fill in......why do I know this, because the majority of the kids in my club side attended govt schools and told me as much.......much like friends and colleagues throughout the county have confirmed the same.


There is a reason my sons school only plays against private schools, as they are the only schools who provide worthy competition.....when they do get to play the govt school sides in the early rounds of the Nat West they put over 100 points on these sides, playing our 2nd team.


Stop bloody lying, its embarrassing  

DE
DennyCaptain12,893 posts
01 Sept 2015, 14:05
#65
01 Sept 2015, 14:05#65
 Dave, it's exactly the same here in Sydney. Rugby is only played in Private schools not in govt public schools. I have no idea what happens in the other states of the country. I've always wondered what rugby could be if kids in Gov schools were given a shot.
JW
Just_winCaptain18,570 posts
01 Sept 2015, 14:10
#66
01 Sept 2015, 14:10#66
A new avatar for Mozart with a duck motif, is that CleverMike he is conversing with?

At least it looks like a civilized discourse
JW
Just_winCaptain18,570 posts
01 Sept 2015, 14:10
#67
01 Sept 2015, 14:10#67
Duplicate
DE
DennyCaptain12,893 posts
01 Sept 2015, 14:12
#68
01 Sept 2015, 14:12#68
 why not Beeno?
JW
Just_winCaptain18,570 posts
01 Sept 2015, 14:29
#69
01 Sept 2015, 14:29#69
 Beeno Etzabeth avatar(before & after):
Steroids, what steroids? 


SA
Saffolk Captain30,741 posts
01 Sept 2015, 15:03
#70
01 Sept 2015, 15:03#70

The kids that go to govt schools play their rugby for clubs here.


Hell the majority of govt schools in this country don't even have sports fields and if they do, you wont see any rugby posts or cricket pitches......you might see the odd set of football goal posts.


The govt schools here are pretty crap in general......no sport and ill disciplined kids.


Not a patch on the govt schools back home.......one thing England falls well short on is its education and how the schools are run.


I chose to fork out and pay for my kids education as there was no way I was putting my boys through the sad excuse for schools in this country. Imagine going to school and not playing sport......no pride in their schools at all   

BE
becsPro4,378 posts
01 Sept 2015, 16:01
#71
01 Sept 2015, 16:01#71
 That's right Saffex, continue to denigrate the country you have chosen to live in and the people you have chosen to live amongst. 
Are you practising your own form of social Apartheid by only associating with those of a high enough class/education as your own perchance ? Because those who have been to a State School clearly are not good enough for the likes of you and yours, are they ?
" ..on average 14-16 year olds ( partake in ) 100 hours per week ( of sport ) " ".....out of hours sport at School Sports Club after School or at lunchtime " " Teams that play in Intra-House ( within school ) and Inter-School ( between two or more Schools ) Leagues and Competitions. Many Schools also have links to Sports Clubs in the same town or city encouraging young people to do more sport " 
All quotes from School Sports websites, Saffex. 
The Saints Community Team has been in existence for a good number of years now and they go into all Schools in the area, Primary and Secondary, taking lessons. Players are on rota systems and take the kids in training sessions; Teachers can also learn quite a bit from them.
There are a number of State School educated kids in the England Squad for the RWC, players like Lawes and Dan Cole, for example. But we all know my team is useless, blah blah blah. 
And, don't worry Saffex. Message received loud and clear. 

BL
bluebokPro3,977 posts
01 Sept 2015, 16:17
#72
01 Sept 2015, 16:17#72
Easy Becs, Saff isn't having a go at you! He's pointing out one of very few advantages of life in South Africa. I am sure he is well aware of the fact that space is a plenty in SA, allowing schools ample opportunity to have fields etc for sport. As for ill disciplined kids, that is the result of a lack of ability to discipline children, a problem most countries that have abolished corporal punishment are having to deal with. 
Long story short Bec's, for every one good thing we have in SA, we have ten monumental problems! Saff, amongst others, is there because he feels it is better than South Africa, so obviously he doesn't think your island is so terrible . Let us have our sports fields, we have enough shart to deal with. Also, don't be too sensitive! 
SA
Saffolk Captain30,741 posts
01 Sept 2015, 16:48
#73
01 Sept 2015, 16:48#73

Becs why don't you stop making more of a fool of yourself than you already have......your opening two paragraphs are insulting


Good that you have the message.....consequence of speaking shit

DA
Devil's AdvocatePro7,008 posts
01 Sept 2015, 17:16
#74
01 Sept 2015, 17:16#74
Can't say I blame Becs to a certain degree here
Some of Dave's comments could be seen as holier than thou and belittling anyone who goes to a state school, which at times is obviously beyond their own immediate control
Now before you jump on that high horse Dave, take note of what I am saying here.
You mention ill discipline, bad behaviour, no sports at state schools etc etc 
Besides ill discipline, bad behaviour, which is within each person's control, you can't say they don't have pride in their school if they don't play sports, what has that got to do with the students?
Regarding ill discipline and bad behaviour, don't paint everyone with the same brush is all I am saying, just because it is a "state school"
 
GE
generaltitPro3,164 posts
01 Sept 2015, 17:25
#75
01 Sept 2015, 17:25#75
 The last of a true Englishman...

https://youtu.be/y6JxSHmVB5g



SA
Saffolk Captain30,741 posts
01 Sept 2015, 18:18
#76
01 Sept 2015, 18:18#76

DA stop speaking shit.......the whole issue was about whether govt schools played rugby at a respectable level......they don't


Pride in ones school is the product of representing that school on the sports field, or on stage etc.


Only my last post spoke of my choice to send my kids to private school, so saying Becs cant be blamed for her bullshit reaction is nonsense 

DB
DbDraadCaptain26,388 posts
01 Sept 2015, 19:57
#77
01 Sept 2015, 19:57#77
 Blue,  in good old SA,  you get two kinds of government schools.  The almost free,  with a fee of about R159 per quarter,  and the previous model C schools (old white government ),  which will cost you 1K a month.  These are the schools that excelle in sport. Some of them are just as expensive as the private schools. 
DA
Devil's AdvocatePro7,008 posts
02 Sept 2015, 08:25
#78
02 Sept 2015, 08:25#78
Saffex
 
Status: Hall Of Fame 
Posts: 13372RE: The Antipodean challenge
September 01, 2015, 18:18:50

Pride in ones school is the product of representing that school on the sports field, or on stage etc.



What a crock of shyte
So all students who don't participate in this cannot be proud of their school?
You are sounding a bit ostentatious here
BE
Beeno1Captain40,032 posts
02 Sept 2015, 08:59
#79
02 Sept 2015, 08:59#79
 Draadie please dont be too hard on my good friend JW. Obviously he has no clue about rubgy (Like all the kbbs) but he is a decent enough oak - if you scratch deeply enough. I think Justin Marshall has been having a good influence on JW. Only wish Cloudy would escape the malign influence of wee mcaaaaaw.
Ducks of the world unite. For the rest of us its time for some duck hunting! 
The glass jaw Kitchener didnt last long!! Hahahahahaha. Could it be rooitwit I wonder. 


SA
Saffolk Captain30,741 posts
02 Sept 2015, 10:25
#80
02 Sept 2015, 10:25#80
So DA tell me what instils pride in govt schools here in the UK then.....talk me through it, given its non existent......take your time  
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