31 Aug 2015, 15:44#41
You constantly tell me I am ignorant and stupid, Saffex.
The fact that I can think of myriad Schools where the parents pay a fortune in fees and get the little darlings taught by " Directors of Rugby ", instead of a good old P.E teacher in an ill fitting tracksuit , who never get near an England shirt as opposed to those who go to those bog standard State Schools that do make the grade, just says it all really, doesn't it ?
Why, DA ? Do you want to watch ?
SASaffolk
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SASaffolk Captain30,741 posts
31 Aug 2015, 16:34#42
Name the schools stop fucking ducking and diving....woman up and name them
31 Aug 2015, 17:59#43
Woman up ?! Ha ha ha ! Unlike you, I don't have a chart on my wall containing the Top 100 Schools Rugby Teams, Saffex. As you well know, I am a barren old trout, so I don't really spend a lot of time watching young boys in shorts on the glorious fields of England.
I do know that KES Aston was the Natwest Schools Cup Vase Semi Finalist last year, that Moulton College is obviously very highly thought of these days and that both Skinner's and Sir Thomas Richard's are in the Top 10 Schools 7's sides.
I also know that a high percentage of Grammar Schools are still State Schools and are run accordingly, so I really don't know why you would wish to remove them from your extensive list ?
I could also add that Ben Cohen attended Kingsthorpe Upper ( now Kingsthorpe Community College )
That is 4 recent/current England players, including RWC winners, that I have listed for you, all of whom attended State Schools.
SASaffolk
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31 Aug 2015, 20:51#44
Oh wow, the vase semi finalists......geez.......there is a reason no-one has heard of KES Aston.......or Thomas Richard's for that matter.
I have already said that Grammar schools play rugby......that's not up for debate......so wake up and work out the reason they are not part of the list.
As I have said, govt schools in England are crap at sport, for sport is not given the time of day.....that includes rugby, so trying to tell me the opposite tells me you are either blissfully ignorant or...................
Um, the fact that the likes of Cohen etc made it as rugby players has stuff all to do with their schools and everything to do with the clubs they would have played for as juniors and thats a fact.
I am not after players names, I am after a list of govt schools that are a force in rugby.....you are yet to name a single one, so try again.
It might save you looking a fool trying to tell me that govt schools play rugby at some respectable level......one would swear I was new to England, had not coached at junior level or had kids attend England schools - how fucking insulting
AJArthur John
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31 Aug 2015, 21:11#45
Kitchener you obviously live in that prime area of London called Hackney.
Sout Piel.
31 Aug 2015, 22:52#46
Oh wow, yeah, the competition wasn't filled to the brim with Public Schools, now was it ? Which, by your reckoning, it should be.
And, whether you have heard of those teams or not, number 4 and number 8 in the 7's Schools teams for this Season are definitely State Schools. There may be more, I do not know.
Ben Cohen played for Old Scouts. Heard of them ?
Sport in State Schools is poor, is it ? Not bothered with ? Tell me where Paula Radcliffe, Greg Rutherford and Louis Smith went to School ( just off the top of my head ) and I also know you have heard of the School where the current Backs Coach of Exeter Chiefs studied. I think you'll find none of those attended a Public School, did they ?
As you do nothing but call me a fool, an idiot, stupid or ignorant, I think you really do have some front accusing anyone else of being insulting.
01 Sept 2015, 11:30#48
It was a joke, DA.
Maybe you should take your own advice and " get over yourself "
DADevil's Advocate
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01 Sept 2015, 12:06#49
Becs, rather just let anyone get over you
It might just lighten your mood
01 Sept 2015, 12:10#50
I was the one making a light-hearted comment. Not the one reacting like a grumpy brat, DA.
Would you have just made the same comment to a male poster ?
DADevil's Advocate
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01 Sept 2015, 12:33#51
I also made a light-hearted comment
Is your comment only considered light-hearted because you are a female?
Lmao, get off your high horse lady
01 Sept 2015, 12:46#52
It was just a query.
I'm not on a horse, I find equines fairly difficult to mount, under the circumstances !
DADevil's Advocate
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01 Sept 2015, 12:55#53
There are far more easier things to mount Becs, that are much lower down .....Like a bicycle
DBDbDraad
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DBDbDraadCaptain26,388 posts
01 Sept 2015, 12:56#54
Shyt, some funny stuff, especially with the wordblock highlighting certain words. Pun paradise!
Becks, I'm sure DA has some issues with equestrian mounting as well.
01 Sept 2015, 13:01#55
I can't mount those either, DA.....even with stabilisers. It truly is a sorry state of affairs !
I thought he would be an accomplished bareback rider, Draad !
DBDbDraad
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DBDbDraadCaptain26,388 posts
01 Sept 2015, 13:03#56
Kitchener's stuff is even funnier when keeping in mind who actually wrote it. That Lambie compliment should have been a giveaway, obviously intended for Foxie. Pity he's absent.
DADevil's Advocate
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01 Sept 2015, 13:08#57
On the contrary Db
I called my last girlfriend Mountain Dew, due to her obvious capabilities
The one before that I called Brandy, given that it's the name of a hard liquor
DEDenny
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01 Sept 2015, 13:09#58
"Pity he's absent"...naaaah....he's around...lurking. Pouring every morsel of a post.
DBDbDraad
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DBDbDraadCaptain26,388 posts
01 Sept 2015, 13:14#59
No, I mean Card. He has a way with words and Lambie is on of his tells.
JWJust_win
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01 Sept 2015, 13:28#60
DB & Denny: Glad to see the "cult of the duck" is growing
DA & Becs,on the matter of mounting, the circumstances are important, lol
I see we can use the edit block program to make our naughty puns for us & therefore defeat its purpose The Irony, I love it!
JWJust_win
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JWJust_winCaptain18,570 posts
01 Sept 2015, 13:28#61
Becs, the ratings don't mean much this close to the RWC. They are used to help determine the teams that will play in the RWC but that was determined a long time ago for RWC 2015.
DEDenny
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01 Sept 2015, 13:30#62
Yes JW, I've noticed. What's that again about the start of the Duck Cult?
JWJust_win
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JWJust_winCaptain18,570 posts
01 Sept 2015, 13:40#63
Denny: I was referring to an earlier post of yours under the thread JW where you said "this could turn into a cult thingie".
Would pass the time of day if other posters used a version of a duck avatar to make their statement. So far there are three.
DEDenny
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01 Sept 2015, 14:05#65
Dave, it's exactly the same here in Sydney. Rugby is only played in Private schools not in govt public schools. I have no idea what happens in the other states of the country. I've always wondered what rugby could be if kids in Gov schools were given a shot.
JWJust_win
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JWJust_winCaptain18,570 posts
01 Sept 2015, 14:10#66
A new avatar for Mozart with a duck motif, is that CleverMike he is conversing with?
At least it looks like a civilized discourse
JWJust_win
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JWJust_winCaptain18,570 posts
01 Sept 2015, 14:29#69
Beeno Etzabeth avatar(before & after):
Steroids, what steroids?
01 Sept 2015, 16:01#71
That's right Saffex, continue to denigrate the country you have chosen to live in and the people you have chosen to live amongst.
Are you practising your own form of social Apartheid by only associating with those of a high enough class/education as your own perchance ? Because those who have been to a State School clearly are not good enough for the likes of you and yours, are they ?
" ..on average 14-16 year olds ( partake in ) 100 hours per week ( of sport ) " ".....out of hours sport at School Sports Club after School or at lunchtime " " Teams that play in Intra-House ( within school ) and Inter-School ( between two or more Schools ) Leagues and Competitions. Many Schools also have links to Sports Clubs in the same town or city encouraging young people to do more sport "
All quotes from School Sports websites, Saffex.
The Saints Community Team has been in existence for a good number of years now and they go into all Schools in the area, Primary and Secondary, taking lessons. Players are on rota systems and take the kids in training sessions; Teachers can also learn quite a bit from them.
There are a number of State School educated kids in the England Squad for the RWC, players like Lawes and Dan Cole, for example. But we all know my team is useless, blah blah blah.
And, don't worry Saffex. Message received loud and clear.
01 Sept 2015, 16:17#72
Easy Becs, Saff isn't having a go at you! He's pointing out one of very few advantages of life in South Africa. I am sure he is well aware of the fact that space is a plenty in SA, allowing schools ample opportunity to have fields etc for sport. As for ill disciplined kids, that is the result of a lack of ability to discipline children, a problem most countries that have abolished corporal punishment are having to deal with.
Long story short Bec's, for every one good thing we have in SA, we have ten monumental problems! Saff, amongst others, is there because he feels it is better than South Africa, so obviously he doesn't think your island is so terrible . Let us have our sports fields, we have enough shart to deal with. Also, don't be too sensitive!
DADevil's Advocate
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01 Sept 2015, 17:16#74
Can't say I blame Becs to a certain degree here
Some of Dave's comments could be seen as holier than thou and belittling anyone who goes to a state school, which at times is obviously beyond their own immediate control
Now before you jump on that high horse Dave, take note of what I am saying here.
You mention ill discipline, bad behaviour, no sports at state schools etc etc
Besides ill discipline, bad behaviour, which is within each person's control, you can't say they don't have pride in their school if they don't play sports, what has that got to do with the students?
Regarding ill discipline and bad behaviour, don't paint everyone with the same brush is all I am saying, just because it is a "state school"
GEgeneraltit
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01 Sept 2015, 17:25#75
The last of a true Englishman...
https://youtu.be/y6JxSHmVB5g
DBDbDraad
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DBDbDraadCaptain26,388 posts
01 Sept 2015, 19:57#77
Blue, in good old SA, you get two kinds of government schools. The almost free, with a fee of about R159 per quarter, and the previous model C schools (old white government ), which will cost you 1K a month. These are the schools that excelle in sport. Some of them are just as expensive as the private schools.
BEBeeno1
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BEBeeno1Captain40,032 posts
02 Sept 2015, 08:59#79
Draadie please dont be too hard on my good friend JW. Obviously he has no clue about rubgy (Like all the kbbs) but he is a decent enough oak - if you scratch deeply enough. I think Justin Marshall has been having a good influence on JW. Only wish Cloudy would escape the malign influence of wee mcaaaaaw.
Ducks of the world unite. For the rest of us its time for some duck hunting!
The glass jaw Kitchener didnt last long!! Hahahahahaha. Could it be rooitwit I wonder.
SASaffolk
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SASaffolk Captain30,741 posts
02 Sept 2015, 10:25#80
So DA tell me what instils pride in govt schools here in the UK then.....talk me through it, given its non existent......take your time