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The Antipodean challenge

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DA
Devil's AdvocatePro7,008 posts
02 Sept 2015, 11:02
#81
02 Sept 2015, 11:02#81
No need to take my time here Dave, it will be quick
You are missing the point entirely
This is not about the UK or government schools at all, although you maintain it is
What your pride means to you, and what being proud of, or having pride for, is different in every other individual.  That pride may not be significantly apparent, in your eyes, but it certainly is not "non existent"
You are making a blanket statement saying that there will only be pride regarding that school if that student represents that school on the sports field or on stage.
That is very sanctimonious of you, and complete b.u.l.l.s..h..i. .t
Pride for coming top in the country in another sport or academic achievement which requires no "sports field" is just as good.  Being the top student in the entire school is also something one would be very proud of achieving or not?, or is it because it's a state school that pride no longer exists for these types of achievements?
How about breaking a 50 year old school sports athletics record?
You are making it just about sports field achievements, and more specifically rugby ones, and also getting on stage as defining that as being successful and bringing pride to your school........ it's far from it and you should know that
Then you throw in your kids private school education that you pay for
It just looks like boasting and gloating to me
JW
Just_winCaptain18,570 posts
02 Sept 2015, 11:50
#82
02 Sept 2015, 11:50#82
 On the issue of state vs. private schools, in NZ we have very few schools that you pay for but rugby thrives in both & there is a sense of pride in your school. It is not a money issue as most of the best rugby players come from state funded schools.
Kitch y would have been tolerable if stuck to rugby.

By the way here is Devil's Advocate avatar in the duck motif:


SA
Saffolk Captain30,741 posts
02 Sept 2015, 12:23
#83
02 Sept 2015, 12:23#83

What bullshit, if you come first in the country for another sport or academically that has stuff all to do with having pride in the school and everything to do with pride in oneself.


If that kid attended a govt school and came first in a national 100m sprint that would have nothing to do with the school as sport is practically non existent in govt school......that achievement would be down to the athletics club that kid attended.


As I said you are speaking utter crap, clearly knowing nothing about the subject.


The majority of the kids in this country don't really give a toss about their schools.....its a gathering of mates and when the home time bell rings.....they are out the door.


Team sports build pride in ones school.......you were clearly a loner who played no sport at school.


You cant break a 50 year old athletics record when you don't actually have any form of athletics at school. 


Boasting has stuff all to do with it you ignorant twat......the debate was whether govt schools played rugby at a respectable level or not - I know for a FACT they don't.


I sent my kids to private school after my little man was sent with his year 6 class to the local secondary school for a taster day and they were locked in the tennis courts at break time for their own safety and had a police officer on site as standard practice.

DA
Devil's AdvocatePro7,008 posts
02 Sept 2015, 13:55
#84
02 Sept 2015, 13:55#84
Saffex
 
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September 02, 2015, 12:23:15

What bull[removed], if you come first in the country for another sport or academically that has stuff all to do with having pride in the school and everything to do with pride in oneself. Yet earlier you posted "Imagine going to school and not playing sport......no pride in their schools at all" you said that, not me, care to rephrase that. And explain this..."Pride in ones school is the product of representing that school on the sports field, or on stage etc".  And if they are not on a sports field or on a stage?


If that kid attended a govt school and came first in a national 100m sprint that would have nothing to do with the school as sport is practically non existent in govt school......that achievement would be down to the athletics club that kid attended.  B...l..l..s..h..i..t, and you know it, it starts at school first, then they get identified, scouted etc etc to an athletics club / school for further development, unless you are categorically stating here that all top sportspeople to ever represent England were developed and groomed at a top level school from their first day starting school.  Don't talk s..h..i..t Dave. 


As I said you are speaking utter crap, clearly knowing nothing about the subject.  You are getting yourself into a corner here Dave


The majority of the kids in this country don't really give a toss about their schools.....its a gathering of mates and when the home time bell rings.....they are out the door.  As I said, don't paint everyone with the same brush, just because of a few bad ones, but you always do, and in this case when you do, you make them sound like they are beneath you, which is ugly to see in writing.


"Team sports build pride in ones school".......you were clearly a loner who played no sport at school.  So with your fantastic theory here, a long distance runner, chess player, pole vaulter, high jumper, sprinter, javelin thrower, weight lifter, hammer thrower etc etc should have no pride in his school because it's a singular event, not a team event as you specifically mention above here like cricket and rugby? LMAO... ok Dave


You cant break a 50 year old athletics record when you don't actually have any form of athletics at school. I said breaking a 50 year old school athletics record to be proud of you idiot, and are you telling me there are no athletics at schools?... 


Boasting has stuff all to do with it you ignorant twat......the debate was whether govt schools played rugby at a respectable level or not - I know for a FACT they don't.  I never mentioned rugby, you did, I am covering other sports that kids could take a lot pride in, since you say there is no pride at all, only maybe in your elite private sector or if it's a team event


Lol, ok Dave


I sent my kids to private school after my little man was sent with his year 6 class to the local secondary school for a taster day and they were locked in the tennis courts at break time for their own safety and had a police officer on site as standard practice.


Not sure what you mean here, what was the danger

 

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SA
Saffolk Captain30,741 posts
02 Sept 2015, 15:26
#85
02 Sept 2015, 15:26#85

Are you stupid? No need to rephrase anything.......one reinforces the other. Sport = pride in the school.


I take it you don't live in England do you......that's plain to see given your ignorant assertion under 2. No kids do not take part in athletics at govt schools so no that is not where they start and its not where they get scouted to join athletics clubs......what utter ignorance......as I said you clearly do not live in England so stop insulting us with your presumptions.....its pathetic.


No dumbass.....the singular sportsman or musician is not representing his school, so cannot possibly assign pride to that school......what part of govt schools in the UK not taking sport seriously are you struggling to comprehend......what part of this is not sinking in huh? The high jumper will be competing in the name of a club not the school.


No there is no athletics at govt schools you idiot so no 50 year record can be broken.....there might have been athletics in that school some 20 years ago.


Answer this - where do you live?

DA
Devil's AdvocatePro7,008 posts
02 Sept 2015, 16:22
#86
02 Sept 2015, 16:22#86
Dave, you silly little man
Why don't you look very carefully through your very own posts and see how you assign what or where a person's pride is attributed to regarding state vs private schools.
Once you comprehend your very own stupid statements and assessments, will you maybe realise that you are back tracking and trying to cover what you initially said.
For a lawyer you are bit slow on the uptake here big boy
No wonder Becs had you over a barrel... and quite easily I may add
Where I live is of no consequence, just like it is of no consequence with what happened to your kids or where your kids now go to school regarding your remarks, it has no relevance whatsoever to your stupid and egotistical remarks about state schools and their scholars vs your elite private school scholars and how if they are not in a team sport, these poor state scholars will never experience pride in one's school
You are very narrow minded, and you must live with blinkers every day.
What a moron you are, and your kids must be so very very lucky that they do not have to endure going to these pathetic uneducated state schools on a daily basis
Make sure they thank you every day for this incredible sacrifice you have made that unfortunately millions of others born in England could never have.
And while you are at it, maybe you should thank England for all the other wonderful things it has given your family that the millions of other illiterate and ill disciplined kids and families that were actually born in the UK don't have.
You ungrateful sod  
SA
Saffolk Captain30,741 posts
02 Sept 2015, 17:12
#87
02 Sept 2015, 17:12#87

No you thick shit I know exactly what I have said......its clear for all to see......but given how utterly stupid you are, I'll summarise......to start with I asserted that rugby is not played at a respectable level in govt schools, followed by my assertion that the same applied to all sports in general be it individual or team.


Thereafter I pointed out that team sport instil pride in ones school, to which you countered with individual sports only for me to point out that individual sports are not played at govt schools either......something you would know if you actually lived in the UK


But your arrogance knows know boundaries for you feel equipped to pass comment on something you know nothing about nor have first hand experience of.


Your are just an arrogant prick making his name mud in the process.....but don't let me stop you, keep digging.


I'll say it one more time, the vast majority of the govt schools in this country are crap.....no pride, no discipline, no boundaries.......and NO SPORT

GE
generaltitPro3,164 posts
02 Sept 2015, 18:57
#88
02 Sept 2015, 18:57#88
When you see the motive behind this post what a load of undesirable substance... I for one fell  guilty to this senseless post...good posters have ignored this cods wallop... we all are guilty but a huge load of s h iee t e

DA
Devil's AdvocatePro7,008 posts
03 Sept 2015, 07:38
#89
03 Sept 2015, 07:38#89
Saffex
 
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September 02, 2015, 17:12:03

I'll say it one more time, the vast majority of the govt schools in this country are crap.....no pride, no discipline, no boundaries.......and NO SPORT


I see
This happens in the vast majority of govt schools, as you say.
Of course this does not happen and has never happened in the elite private schools that your own kids are lucky enough to attend..... just the lowly govt schools 
You have reaffirmed my entire point on this topic with just this paragraph alone big boy.... thank you.

BE
Beeno1Captain40,032 posts
03 Sept 2015, 08:40
#90
03 Sept 2015, 08:40#90
 DA stop squaking up a storm. Everyone knows a school doing well in sport builds pride in a school.
If England did not insist in taking in millions of immigrants English kids may have got a better chance. Just keep letting the hordes in and you are doomed if not already. 
DA
Devil's AdvocatePro7,008 posts
03 Sept 2015, 08:51
#91
03 Sept 2015, 08:51#91
Ok thank you for that valuable insight Beeno
So now that is the reason why state schools have all these problems with kids and no pride at all, and the elitist private school kids have all the pride and no problems
Great logic there
Gee, all these poor ill disciplined kids across the whole country, if only they could go to these elite private schools, then all would be sorted hey 
DA
Devil's AdvocatePro7,008 posts
03 Sept 2015, 09:01
#92
03 Sept 2015, 09:01#92
In between the lines, this is Dave's egotistical belief, as stated above in various posts
If you do not go to an elite private school, you automatically have no pride, you are ill disciplined, and you have no interest in your school, and you just get by in life by doing what the hell you want
You are doomed
But attending a private school resolves all those issues
Narcissistic springs to mind
SA
Saffolk Captain30,741 posts
03 Sept 2015, 10:12
#93
03 Sept 2015, 10:12#93

DA I would expect nothing less form you concluding the above, for that is how profoundly stupid you are.


The only point I really wanted to make was that sport is virtually non existent in govt schools in the UK, and the little that is played is of a pathetic standard.


Beenkop, the state of sport and the govt schools in general in the UK has stuff all to do with immigrants - what an ignorant comment

DA
Devil's AdvocatePro7,008 posts
03 Sept 2015, 10:44
#94
03 Sept 2015, 10:44#94


Saffex
 
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September 03, 2015, 10:12:02

"The govt schools here are pretty crap in general......no sport and ill disciplined kids"

"Pride in ones school is the product of representing that school on the sports field, or on stage etc"

"So DA tell me what instils pride in govt schools here in the UK then"

"I'll say it one more time, the vast majority of the govt schools in this country are crap.....no pride, no discipline, no boundaries.......and NO SPORT"
"I sent my kids to private school"



I made it extremely easy for you Dave, here are five individual statements that you made above
Each statement by you here clearly illustrating how bad and s-hitty government schools are in the UK with ill disciplined kids who have no pride and have no interest in their schools.
Everything else you posted above is about these wonderful private schools like the ones your own kids attend and how great they are compared to state schools, and the private school students are better than those that attend government schools and have more pride
Enough said, that is how you come across..... an elitist 





SA
Saffolk Captain30,741 posts
03 Sept 2015, 12:06
#95
03 Sept 2015, 12:06#95

DA you are spot on here - that is exactly what I am saying with regards to private schools being far, far better than govt schools here, which in general are a disgrace.


There was no way in hell I was putting my kids through the shambles of a state education system they have in place here.


I am anything but elitist, just doing the best for my kids and thereby ensuring that they are best equipped for life's journey.


In effect in order for my kids to experience the kind of schooling (govt) I had, I needed to send them to a private school here in the UK.


My boys are absolute gems and I have their school partly to thank for that.


By the way I don't give a flying toss what you think

DA
Devil's AdvocatePro7,008 posts
03 Sept 2015, 12:29
#96
03 Sept 2015, 12:29#96
Best of luck with that Dave, and I mean it
Glad your boys turned out to be gems...... and I really mean that as well
So let's take a moment now then to reflect on all those poor families and parents out there that now have to deal with all these young rebellious uneducated and ill disciplined brats that have no pride at all, not one of them, that fill up all those pathetic government schools and have no ambition in life.
If only they had all gone to an elite private school, and not a government one, then all those kids and their families would be better people, not so?
Because that is what you have been saying all along, even with this last post of yours
Nothing wrong at all with going to a private school, nothing whatsoever, but making a blanket statement and comparing how good private school kids are, not schools, the kids themselves, is incredibly narcissistic 
That my friend.... is being an elitist, which you say you are not
Yeah..... ok
SA
Saffolk Captain30,741 posts
03 Sept 2015, 13:00
#97
03 Sept 2015, 13:00#97
Where did I say that every kid that went to a govt school was ill disciplined, uneducated and had no chance in life?
DA
Devil's AdvocatePro7,008 posts
03 Sept 2015, 13:47
#98
03 Sept 2015, 13:47#98
Saffex
 
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September 03, 2015, 13:00:08

"The govt schools here are pretty crap in general......no sport and ill disciplined kids."


Not a patch on the govt schools back home.......one thing England falls well short on is its education and how the schools are run So the government schools don't offer a decent education, only the private schools?

I chose to fork out and pay for my kids education as there was no way I was putting my boys through the sad excuse for schools in this country

Note: You said your kids private education here, not his sport, and you say a sad excuse for the government schools education.  So what education did the kid get at a government school?
I'll say it one more time, the vast majority of the govt schools in this country are crap.....no prideno disciplineno boundaries.......and NO SPORT

I am anything but elitist, just doing the best for my kids and thereby ensuring that they are best equipped for life's journey. So kids going to a government school are not best equipped for life compared to a child attending a private school?
Listen Dave, maybe you never meant it to come across in the way I took it, all I am saying, is that is the impression I got from your posts, because you were repeating the same comparisons between a privately educated child, and a child who attended a government school.
Enough said


SA
Saffolk Captain30,741 posts
03 Sept 2015, 14:10
#99
03 Sept 2015, 14:10#99
Yep at no point did I say every govt school kid was a lost cause and there are some good govt schools out there, but sadly they are far and few between  
DA
Devil's AdvocatePro7,008 posts
03 Sept 2015, 14:36
#100
03 Sept 2015, 14:36#100
You didn't need to type that out Dave, it's the impression I got from your posts 
What you do say though, is that kids attending government schools are not educated
What you did say as well, is that kids attending government schools are all ill disciplined
So I provided 2 out of 3 for you, since you requested it, the 3rd was the overall impression you gave from your continuous bashing of government schools.



 

 
SA
Saffolk Captain30,741 posts
03 Sept 2015, 14:52
#101
03 Sept 2015, 14:52#101
Bullshit now you are lying I did not say anything about education and I certainly did not say ALL govt school kids are ill disciplined
DA
Devil's AdvocatePro7,008 posts
03 Sept 2015, 15:20
#102
03 Sept 2015, 15:20#102
Eina Dave, this is going to hurt me more than it hurts you
"Bulls-hit now you are lying I did not say anything about education"

Dave you are a lawyer, if you really believe this statement of yours to be true and accurate, despite what proof I have provided above already, then I have to seriously question how capable you are as a lawyer.
And this lie
"and I certainly did not say ALL govt school kids are ill disciplined"

"The govt schools here are pretty crap in general......no sport and ill disciplined kids."


Sorry Dave, I missed the part here where you say only "some" government schools have ill disciplined kids.  Please...... show me where you say it is only some government schools, and not ALL


This should be fun 


DB
DbDraadCaptain26,388 posts
03 Sept 2015, 15:39
#103
03 Sept 2015, 15:39#103
 Just an observation.  Education and academic qualification is not the same thing.  IMO,  discipline and the ethos you learn from sport and other non academic activities are part and parcel of a good education... amongst other things as well. 
DA
Devil's AdvocatePro7,008 posts
03 Sept 2015, 15:46
#104
03 Sept 2015, 15:46#104
I completely agree with you on that Db

DB
DbDraadCaptain26,388 posts
03 Sept 2015, 15:51
#105
03 Sept 2015, 15:51#105
 PS,  knowing Saf,  I assume he overstated his argument a tad,  but in essence,  he might tot be too far off. 
DA
Devil's AdvocatePro7,008 posts
03 Sept 2015, 15:59
#106
03 Sept 2015, 15:59#106
Personally, I think he got too emotionally involved and said some very stupid things
Just my opinion
DA
Devil's AdvocatePro7,008 posts
03 Sept 2015, 16:09
#107
03 Sept 2015, 16:09#107
The kids in general are very ill disciplined these days, and I won't argue that point.
But that is across the country, and in fact around the world.  
You cannot make a general statement though that the one child's behaviour is worse than the another, based on what type of school they each attend. To me, that is a pathetic and elitist comment to make.
You also cannot make a statement that paying for your child's education automatically means your child is better educated than another child whose parents are not paying for their education..... that's just narcissistic
 
GE
generaltitPro3,164 posts
03 Sept 2015, 16:42
#108
03 Sept 2015, 16:42#108
 The drivel just goes on an on...but entertains some..issues... most of you have points but schools in SA are vastly different to English schools... good government schools in SA are Grey Bloem, Affies, Maritzburg College, Paarl High and Gym,SACS, Selbourne,Dale,Rondebosch,KES, PBH,Glenwood and a host of others, private schools are Hilton, Bishops,Kearsney and Michaelhouse and St Andrews in Saffex's town.

I went to one that produced 2 WC winning no 10s Joel and Butch..Peter Grant was also there.

Ofourse we have pride...Becs understand Saffex's pride...he played with Hennie Le Roux at Graeme College part of the W C winning side in 1995.


CE
CeradynePro9,374 posts
03 Sept 2015, 16:58
#109
03 Sept 2015, 16:58#109
 "Grey Bloem, Affies, Maritzburg College, Paarl High and Gym,SACS, Selbourne,Dale,Rondebosch,KES, PBH,Glenwood and a host of others, private schools are Hilton, Bishops,Kearsney and Michaelhouse and St Andrews in Saffex's town."
Come now, Seb. Those are not your "nornal" SA Govt school now, is it?


GE
generaltitPro3,164 posts
03 Sept 2015, 17:03
#110
03 Sept 2015, 17:03#110
They are all govt schools.... I said GOOD govt schools..,.I should know ...I was boarder at MC...we were very proud and still are... it's v ery natural
CE
CeradynePro9,374 posts
03 Sept 2015, 17:08
#111
03 Sept 2015, 17:08#111
 OK. Let's repeat that:
"Come now, Seb. Those are not your "nornal" (sic) SA Govt school now, is it?"
Sorry for the typo, but I am sure that it should not be a major issue.
GE
generaltitPro3,164 posts
03 Sept 2015, 17:33
#112
03 Sept 2015, 17:33#112
Yesl, you're right but we have a peasant govt...that hates accolades from the past...slowly disentigrating old world values just like Lenin f...up the decency of erronous decent people in 1917...Colonialism, Imperialism, Capitalism, Racialism...Communism, Socialism...all catch slogans to manipulate by politicans
SA
Saffolk Captain30,741 posts
03 Sept 2015, 17:37
#113
03 Sept 2015, 17:37#113
Geez DA, kindly provide the evidence where I said that ALL govt school kids are ill disciplined you stupid fool......provide the material evidence....failing which shut your ignorant trap up.  
GE
generaltitPro3,164 posts
03 Sept 2015, 19:04
#114
03 Sept 2015, 19:04#114
 We all live in this troubled world of charlatans that take power through their campaigns... most , if not all is fake...are there men anymore or anywhere???? SA men are losing their manhood... we are pacific to corruption, wrong doing and crime..,. in England ask the girls...in USA its  an affront... gay rights...how we all  live and accept this s h ite
DB
DbDraadCaptain26,388 posts
03 Sept 2015, 19:43
#115
03 Sept 2015, 19:43#115
 Seb;  some of the good government schools are even more expensive than your run of the mill private schools. For all practical reasons they are the same as private schools. Yes,  the government fund them,  but with the same per capita amount as they do the rest.  All the extra's are paid for by the parents and sponsors. Only actual difference being is that the school property belongs to the department of education. 
DA
Devil's AdvocatePro7,008 posts
04 Sept 2015, 07:49
#116
04 Sept 2015, 07:49#116
Saffex
 
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September 03, 2015, 13:00:08

Where did I say that every kid that went to a govt school was ill disciplined, uneducated and had no chance in life?


This was a walk in the park to prove.... too easy
Saffex
 
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September 03, 2015, 17:37:31

Geez DA, kindly provide the evidence where I said that ALL govt school kids are ill disciplined you stupid fool......provide the material evidence....failing which shut your ignorant trap up. 


How did you pass the bar exam Dave?
"you are lying, I did not say anything about education"
You still stand by this above statement Davey?
Dave, the lying lawyer
Enough said, I rest my case
SA
Saffolk Captain30,741 posts
04 Sept 2015, 10:16
#117
04 Sept 2015, 10:16#117

Yes I said nothing about govt school kids being uneducated you liar......but more to the point lying twat, where did I say that ALL govt school kids are ill disciplined.


Here is a little legal lesson for you, given your profound ignorance on the subject......if you are claiming I said that ALL govt school kids are ill disciplined then it is your duty to prove beyond reasonable doubt that I said as much......no inferences, no presumptions ......just material evidence that I said ALL govt school kids are ill disciplined - good luck little man.


Here is some advice for you, ignorant twat.....stick to topics you know something about......which by all accounts is fuck all......there is nothing more stupid than a clown thinking he is an authority on a subject and then gets exposed for such ignorance and blatant arrogance.


You are small fry

DA
Devil's AdvocatePro7,008 posts
04 Sept 2015, 11:14
#118
04 Sept 2015, 11:14#118
Ok, this is again directed to the resident lying lawyer
"I said nothing about govt school kids being uneducated you liar"

"I chose to fork out and pay for my kids education as there was no way I was putting my boys through the sad excuse for schools in this country"

Mr lawyer boy, why would you pay for your kids education "because of the sad excuse for schools in England?"  What sad excuse are you referring to here, since you admit here that you would rather choose to pay for an alternative education at a private school, than let them attend a government one?

"Not a patch on the govt schools back home.......one thing England falls well short on is its education and how the schools are run."

If England falls well short on it's education in government schools, and you chose to pay for another education at a private school, did I miss that you are actually saying that the students at government schools get the same education that you have to pay for at a private school and that in effect, you are spending your money foolishly because it's actually the same standard?

 
SA
Saffolk Captain30,741 posts
04 Sept 2015, 12:19
#119
04 Sept 2015, 12:19#119

The only LIAR here is you, you idiot, but you are too fucking stupid to even realise that.


pay for my kids education as there was no way I was putting my boys through the sad excuse for schools in this country


That statement has nothing to do with govt school kids being uneducated or the standard of education.....I was talking about govt schools as a whole package, more down to the fact that the kids play no sport and the ill discipline in the schools - my reaction to not wanting to put my boys through govt schools was on the strength of my kids taster day at one, where the level of education never came into the equation.


"Not a patch on the govt schools back home.......one thing England falls well short on is its education 


That is a comparison between SA and UK schools as a whole - the complete education package and I include the private schools here. The old traditional govt schools in SA are better than the majority of private schools here.


So why not man up and apologise for your utter ignorance and arrogance.....but chances are you are too fucking small to admit you have been owned and by the way, h ow about providing the evidence that I said ALL govt school kids are ill disciplined you fucking low life.


Game set and match......you are such easy pickings, up your game, pathetic LIAR


DA
Devil's AdvocatePro7,008 posts
04 Sept 2015, 13:14
#120
04 Sept 2015, 13:14#120
Saffex
 
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September 04, 2015, 12:19:20

The only LIAR here is you, you idiot, but you are too [removed]ing stupid to even realise that.


pay for my kids education as there was no way I was putting my boys through the sad excuse for schools in this country


That statement has nothing to do with govt school kids being uneducated or the standard of education.....I was talking about govt schools as a whole package, more down to the fact that the kids play no sport and the ill discipline in the schools - my reaction to not wanting to put my boys through govt schools was on the strength of my kids taster day at one, where the level of education never came into the equation.


Ok Davey, let me better understand you here. You were very concerned and unhappy about the no sport and ill disciplined kids at government schools, so as long as your kids could play sport and have friends and fellow students who behaved, it didn't matter how bad the academic levels were at that private school, as long as they played sports and had students who behaved, because, in your own words, the level of education your kids would receive never came into the equation?


"Not a patch on the govt schools back home.......one thing England falls well short on is its education 


That is a comparison between SA and UK schools as a whole - the complete education package and I include the private schools here. The old traditional govt schools in SA are better than the majority of private schools here.


Ok I see, so you make a reference to the government schools back home as a comparative, not the private schools back home, just specifically the government ones, but then make no reference or remark about including the UK private schools in this statement or comparison.  You only now "include" the private schools in that comparison because you have been called out on it and you see that you have been found out to be an egotistical moron who brags about private schools and private education, and how UK government schools have no pride at all, only the esteemed private schools do.  Only now are you saying that you actually also included the private schools in that statement, even though there is no proof, but you actually meant to ..... very convenient you mention that now to save face.


So why not man up and apologise for your utter ignorance and arrogance.....but chances are you are too [removed]ing small to admit you have been owned and by the way, how about providing the evidence that I said ALL govt school kids are ill disciplined you [removed]ing low life.


I provided that already, and even challenged you for your response which you have yet to do.  Are you blind as well as dumb?


Game set and match......you are such easy pickings, up your game, pathetic LIAR


I have seen that a few people who know you quite well have questioned you in the past regarding their hesitation about your ability to perform your duties in your chosen profession..... now I know why


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