The Bok RWC tackling monster
"Well Saffolk, I can go right now and find a video on YouTube to prove his dominant play.
But I do not know how to post videos on here from my I phone.
Besides that Blobbie has put many a Video on here of sous….
But to be honest and I am sure you can confirm this, that video won’t matter to you as you have made up your mind.
So no I am not a liar."
Well said Mpower
There are some issues here that peple does not talk about. Mostert in 2019 was used a times whn players like De Jager was not available, In essense thee were two incidents that backline playes ran straigh through poo defense of Mostert - the first were in the RC match against A rgentna where the Agentine flyhalf ran stright threough a poor tackle attempt b y Mostert and a repeat happened in the WC first match in 2019 where the AB wing ran straight through a similar tackle attempt by Mostert. In both cases the flops ended in tries scored byhe opposig teams.
In the six minutes the English was attacking the tryline Mostert made two tackle attempts - the first one was tackled and went down forwad up to a meter of the English tryline and Mostert lost hold of the feet of the English player and Malherbe stopped hih fom going further. In the second case during the same match Marx was joined by Mostert and a powerful tackle was made by the two players - but it as always clear in that case the power in the tackle came fom Marx.
After the RWC match against AB's in 2019 the two incidents led to him being used as a bench player and he never started again as Springbok starting player in the criticl games of the SSpringboks in the rest of the 2019 RWC.
I want to go back to the famous Welligton test won by the Springboks in 2018, In that test Mostert missed 2 open field tackles on AB players. Together with the two 2019 tackles I referred to above it was clear that he was not a good enough open field tackler and in many cses where Mostert made tackles the players went forwad in tackles and easy recovery of the ball by oppossng teams were easy to make especially when other Springbks was involved in tackles credited by the stats to Mostert. In fact to describe him as a tackling monster is to my mind total delusion BS. As Mozart once describe being process tackles of players he disliked - the fact is that virtually all Mostert tackles were process tackles - nohing more,
In the famous 2023 RWC final Du Toit made 28 tackles and won the test for the Springboks. He was player of the match in the final and in 2024 he was rated as Player of the Year for the second time. Du Toit also was captain of the Springboks in tests - Mozstert was not in the mix of senior players ever. This type of comment on Du Toit Mozsrt came up with is ridiculous nonsnse, anyway.
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So this ‘greatness’ which true believers can see, has to be in something else….leadership, ‘court coverage’, grunt, intimidation?
Does that sound like bullshit to you? It does to me. Great contributions have to show up in the numbers. They do for any other great player.
Dud has actually added a few elements this year. He was once seen trying to fetch. He offloaded once or twice. I can recall him running some good lines. I would like to be more enthusiastic. He is a nice bloke and as a kid I admired the great Piet Spiere du Toit.
But to be fair to the rest of the team. He wasn’t always great in the RWC. Hopefully he continues this late development in his career. He was a much better player in 2024 than he was in 2018, which ironically tells you all that gushing back then was nonsense.
. . . further proof that rugby noob and pompous twat is not a great combination . . .
Further proof that grunts can’t follow logic.
Correct . . . and he's also a pompous twat.
Then Dud shouldn’t be the designated ball carrier…..what’s the point of a ball carrier that never gives you penetration and never offloads. Explain that to me, what is the purpose? Snyman offloads brilliantly and creates opportunities for the next player. Eben is not a regular ball carrier.
Eben is a lock…..Dud a blindside flank, your typical hard yards ball carrier. Here are their WC carries:
NZ …..4 Eben/5 Dud
England 2 Eben/ 8 Dud
France 6 Eben/ 7 Dud
Ireland 4Eben/Dud 6
Scotland 2 Eben/ Dud 7
Eben 18/Dud 33.
In the RWC Dud carried almost twice as much as Eben. Because he is a programmed runner. He positions himself at first receiver off rucks. Eben carries when the flow of play puts him in position to run, or sometimes close to the line because of reach and weight.
You say Dud plays like a lock. Bingo.,,.he is a lock. But his involvement in lineouts is way less than locks. He’s not pushing behind the props.
So you say he isn’t supposed to be an effective ball carrier….so stop giving him the ball. He got the ball 33 times, Kolisi got the ball 10 times…and he never got the ball once against France, England or New Zealand. We never trusted Kolisi to carry once in the knockouts….he only carried 10 times in the whole WC.
The lack of a forward running game is a big part of our attacking mediocrity and Dud Toit sucks up far too much good ball.
So tell me Dave as a lock that is playing flank, but not expected to the duties of a flank or the duties of a lock, what does he do apart from tackle?
* Don’t pass the ball wide.* If you run the ball the first objective is to avoid a turnover, so you run Dud and not Kolisi* You win games by tackling and scrumming.* Fetching isn’t a consideration because possession doesn’t matter, only field position
Dud is a great servant of the Rasmus’ game plan.
Dud is a great servant of the Rasmus’game plan.
BS - Mozart is a great serant of RUGBY IGNORANCE and prejudice .
Have a nice glass of warm milk and a Marie biscuit.
Mozzie calls Du Toit "DUD" This dispite Du Toit being World player of the year TWICE.
I can't think of a bigger blunder in rugby Judgement than this other than Mozzie's absurd judgement regarding the Great Rassie Erasmus. Two unequalled monumental blunders that show that Mozzie is unable to evaluate matters fairly and logically.
Bye the way Du Toit has to make more tackle s out wide than Mostert against tricky backline players.
Dave of course is also right to point out that Du Toit is a lot harder tackler than Mostert.
Of one thing you can be sure the highly peeved Mozzie will never admit he was wrong about Du Toit and Rassie. His noze is too severely out of joint.
What Dave is not getting is that it's the Mosterts of the world that set hyped players up for success.
Eben and PSDT + Mostert > Eben and PSDT + anybody else.
If you insist on starting RG, then I'm dropping Kolisi for Mostert.
My try of the WC.
Crucial try by a great player.
When in doubt, run at the flyhalf.
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