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clevermikeCoach57,555 posts
22 May 2015, 15:09
#1
22 May 2015, 15:09#1

It was an interesting situation today of the Sharks playing one of the weakest teams in Super 15 and the Bulls playing one of the strongest teams.  So how did the two inside centers perform in the two games:-


 

Steyn0/0112/3/2001205/10/010/0



Serfontein1/151/4/32303027/10/000/0


There can be no reasonable comparison between these two players - - especially looking at the stats for the various activities.  Steyn's only positive was converting three penalties and a try conversion.  Two of the kicks were difficult - the other two were easy.   For the rest he carried the ball twice and even though he beat 1 defender - all of which happened behind the gain line, so there was no meter gaining in his carries.   He off-loaded balls twice  - which even though the off-loads resulted in nothing of substance was a positive, but he also gave away a penalty.  A dead-beat game typical of the constantly talking Steyn.


On the other hand Serfontein scored a try and through quick thinking was instrumental in the scoring of another try.  He carried the ball 3 times beating 3 defenders and making a territory gain of 23 meters.  He also had a better tackle record than Steyn.


To compare these two centers with each other is like comparing chalk with cheese - the one performs well, the other one not.    

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MozartCaptain49,914 posts
22 May 2015, 18:14
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22 May 2015, 18:14#2

Did you see Step in that foot race....man did he look slow. Solid game by both centres really. Frans had by far the touger opponent. Best SA centre today was actually Odendaal who was far more dangerous than Step. Here are his numbers for comparison.  JJ actually had a good game on defence apa rt from a rather feeble efort leading to the last Chiefs try. The correct  Step numbers are also provided, including a penalty....so your point about Steyn's penalty is moot Moronic.

 

CSerfontein1/051/4/5230301 6/10/010/0

 

R)Odendaal0/000/1/3351200 1/00/000/0
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clevermikeCoach57,555 posts
22 May 2015, 20:29
#3
22 May 2015, 20:29#3
 Mozart
With respect must we accept that Odendaal today was the best center, with Serfontein second and Fransie a distant third?   Last week - when Serfontein was opposed by Moala - nothing counted in his favour and he was roundly condemned, but this week because Steyn had a tough opponent in Kerevi - who played the fool with him - a reason had to be found to exonerate Fransie.
Is what happened today going to be the case when Fransie is the Springbok 12 and he meets up with a tough opponent?  However, it is clear - there was some progress - in Fransie's performance last week - but this week it was back to mediocrity.   
You published a later version of Serfontein's stats - so I will proceed and do the same in respect of Fransie:-
Steyn0/0112/6/2001215/30/010/0
With respect - do you find a missed tackle ratio of 37,5% acceptable? 
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hakwaPro4,146 posts
23 May 2015, 03:45
#4
23 May 2015, 03:45#4
 Reds were no walk over, far from it. And remember they were playing at Suncorp Stadium.
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clevermikeCoach57,555 posts
23 May 2015, 06:06
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23 May 2015, 06:06#5
 The Sharks victory can largely be attributed to the kind help they got from James O'Connor.   That kick of his leading to the second try of Ungerer was a classic case of abominable kicking.  I have only in my lifetime seen three such bad relieving kicks before.  One was by Morne Steyn in the Brumbies play-off game in 2012 and the other two by Francois Steyn in the tests against England and Argentina in the same year.
All four efforts let to the scoring of tries by the relevant opposing teams.   
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DezertFoxPro2,288 posts
23 May 2015, 07:18
#6
23 May 2015, 07:18#6
I dub thee "Sour Grape Mike".


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clevermikeCoach57,555 posts
23 May 2015, 07:44
#7
23 May 2015, 07:44#7
 The village idiot at it again - what a farce
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DezertFoxPro2,288 posts
23 May 2015, 08:19
#8
23 May 2015, 08:19#8
 Sour Grape Mike trying to win a debate, in art form:


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hakwaPro4,146 posts
23 May 2015, 08:52
#9
23 May 2015, 08:52#9
 The Reds lost because of poor decision making and attempting to push every pass instead of waiting for their moments.
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