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The dilemma of the Sharks

Started by clevermike8 REPLIES223 VIEWS· 20 Apr 2015, 09:34
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clevermikeCoach57,555 posts
20 Apr 2015, 09:34
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20 Apr 2015, 09:34#1

The return of their red card players will take place during the upcoming tour and it is likely that Lambie will be back in two weeks time as well.


Lambie is seriously missed by the Sharks and Pieter-Steph du Toit equally so.  The latter has another 6 weeks to go before he can be considered to play again and I doubt whether that would happen before the RC.


Now lets look at the situation pertaining to Francois Steyn, Bismarck du Plessis and Jean Deysel.


Francois Steyn


Steyn played at 12 for the Springboks in 2012 and his record was not awe-inspiring.  In the six tests he played in his performances varied from average to poor.  He was overweight and slowed down and the long distance epnalty kicks for which he was famous vanished from sight.   Part of the problem then could have been attributed to the dismal performance of Morne Steyn at flyhalf.  However, after his 6th test appearance he got injured off the field - probably th result of a serious overweight problem - that ruled him out of rugby for the rest of the year.


Steyn played at center for the Sharks in Super 15 in 2013 and the early part of 2014.   His record in the 2013 tournament was abysmal.   He was grossly overweight and slow, while his poor performances were tainted by poor defence and decision-making.   Plumtree publicly said he is no center and dropped him from the starting line -up of the Sharks and afterwards used him at fullback coming from the bench.  Plumtree eventually were forced as a result of the injury to Jordaan to bring him back to play two games at center - he was seriously injured in the second game and played no further rugby n 2013.


His performances of 2014 was equally questionable - in some cases dismally poor.  He had the second worst defensive stats of any no 12 in SA franchises bar Ryno Benjamin and he made in total 1 line break at center and one at flyhalf  in all matches he played at center beating a total of 8 defenders.   That was by far the worst attacking record of any other center or for that matter flyhalf. 


Steyn developed a knee problem that could not be set right medically since it was the directly related to his over-weight problem, which impacted on hso pace and his defensive abilities.  


His temperament and ego caused major hassles in Meyer's squad in June last year and a day before the team announcement for the first test against Wales  he left the squad on the pretext that SARU owed him money.


When he came back from Japan he was physically in better shape than he was since 2012.   He lost a lot of weight - his weight came down by 12 kilos - and the general opinion was that he would make a positive impact.  However, his performances - both at center where he played for three games - and at flyhalf in his other game this year was even worse than his poor record last year.  His serial offences this year - leading to a yellow card in his first match and a red in his third match - shows a serious deficiency and there can be no excuses for his ill-tempered displays on the field of play. 


Since his replacement - Andre Esterhuizen - had solid to good games and did better in both defense and attacking play than Steyn did for the past two Super 15 seasons - I am of the opinion that Steyn was not missed in the period he was suspended.  In my opinion Esterhuizen should be retained as the Sharks number 12 and at best Steyn should be on the bench.   


Bismarck du Plessis


If there was one player who showed a serious decline in both his performances and his temperament in 2014 it as Bismarck du Plessis.   He looks like Mallett said recently in a bad temper whenever on the field and reacted badly whenever a player dares to touch him. 


Problem with Bismarck is - where he initially was always the first choice starting hooker  his performances in 2014 deteriorated so badly that Meyer more frequently started with Adriaan Strauss last year.  The impression gained that his age he will soon be 31 years of age - is having a detrimental affect on his performances.


His initial replacement was Kyle Cooper.  That proved to be a disaster - Cooper was unlike in the past when he did replace Bismarck - was abysmally poor and in the last two matches he was replaced by Franco Marais a youngster who did remarkably well when he started at hooker


I think Bismarck was missed by the Sharks and his return would help the team.  However, what is clear as daylight is that he must clean up his performances and deliver the goods better than he did over the this year, as well as last year.


Jean Deysel


Performance-wise Deysel is pure and simply not good enough to play at Super 15 level.  He has the worst disciplinary record of any loosie in SA and is a serious liability on the field of play.


Unfortunately his replacement is Alberts - who looked better than he normally does on Saturday.  Unfortunately Alberts is slow and his defense at times is poor. A typical example is the br eak around the scrum of Paige - which let to the try scored by Hougaard.  Paige had no more than 4 meters space between the blindside of the scrum and  and the touchline - and Alberts did zero to stop him.   


The issue here has to do with the actual performances of Alberts as well - he delivers very little as a flank forward.   So in fact the Afrikaans saying applies to Deysel and Alberts :  Hulle is soos finkel and koljander - die een is so sleg soos die ander.      


      

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CeradynePro9,374 posts
20 Apr 2015, 10:32
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20 Apr 2015, 10:32#2
 "The latter has another 6 weeks to go before he can be considered to play again and I doubt whether that would happen before the RC."
So much for him being out for only a week.........
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clevermikeCoach57,555 posts
20 Apr 2015, 10:51
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20 Apr 2015, 10:51#3
 Dofdoos
Are you crazy or  something - simpleton?

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CeradynePro9,374 posts
20 Apr 2015, 11:01
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20 Apr 2015, 11:01#4
 Nope. The p@epol who said that PSDT would be out for a week is the crazy one.
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MozartCaptain49,914 posts
20 Apr 2015, 14:55
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20 Apr 2015, 14:55#5

Yep and I don't believe he will play in the RC either.

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clevermikeCoach57,555 posts
20 Apr 2015, 15:08
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20 Apr 2015, 15:08#6
 This from the two idiots who plastered the this site with newspaper reports - gleefully announcing that Du Toit is out for the year - before any medical report has been received.   When the report came out - Mozart (our resident medical specialist) - decided that does not meet his personal prejudice in favour of Matfield and is now pushing his own medical opinion about when Du Toit will be fit to play.  
Problem is Mozart has never seen Du Toit in his life and his medical expertise resulted in an opinion that Du Toit's thin wrists and shoulders is a reason for his knee injury. 
Mozart, it really is time for you to admit that your medical knowledge is deficient and that you suffer from hallucinations - your shrink might just be able to alleviate the situation slightly.  
Is it really necessary to wish an injured player out of the way for 6 months - it seems downright nasty to me.      
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CeradynePro9,374 posts
20 Apr 2015, 16:28
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20 Apr 2015, 16:28#7
 Jou arme sot. Moz placed one article about it. You then jumped on the bandwagon explaining what an idiot Moz was for repeating what was in the media and the next moment, judging by PSDT "walking around", you announced that it wasa  minor issue and that he would be back within a week. Who is the f'king idiot who should admit things around his won "medical knowledge"? P@epol.
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CeradynePro9,374 posts
20 Apr 2015, 16:32
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20 Apr 2015, 16:32#8
 There you go, ou CleverP@epol. How is this for "medical knwoledge"?clevermike
 
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Not a serious injury - the guy had his knee strapped and is walking around - will be back next week.   H e had a great game before his injury though. 
The Dofdoos  Mozart must be bitterly disappointed - the bloody fool is hoping that Du Toit gets injured so he would not be a threat to Ouma Victoria. 


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clevermikeCoach57,555 posts
20 Apr 2015, 16:55
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20 Apr 2015, 16:55#9
 Dofdoos
Mozart placed on article on the site and then followed it up with the same article which appeared in other newspapers.  His glee - and yours - were basically beyond all bounds. I repeated what the commentators said and that was not a deadly sin.   When I warned you flippin idiots must wait for the necessary medical reports by the Specialists after taking a scan - you went even further in your gloating about Du Toit's injury.
Mozart then went further - when the report came out - he implied that eh knows better than the specialists and continue with his campaign that Du Toit will not play rugby again this year.    He then added the jewels about thin shoulders and thin wrists.
If ever there was a couple of members of this site - who made complete dofdose of themselves you two are it.   I have never seen a player injured in a game - where people on this site in fact wish that he is out of rugby the way you two did.  It is at best atrocious on your part. 
However, this thread does not deal with Du Toit's imminent return to rugby - i dealt with the others and essentially the red card specialists.   So why not comment on the essential issue raised about Steyn, Du Plessis and you dofdoos comrade Deyzel.  Why silence on those three and picking on Du Toit.   
That is why you are so D of Doos.            
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