The idiot beanhead now justifies slavery

Beeno: strange that you can be so literal in interpreting the bible but the exact opposite when reading the scoreboard. 

 JW I am sure you will agree my comments on Exodus are reasonable.My comments re the scorebaord not necessarily reflecting the rugby polayed are likewise reasonable.Beeno all in all a very reasonable person.
Dear Cloudy could you please stop quarelling with poor Redsman. 
Beeno' s peace keeping efforts continue!

 If thats your idea of reaching out redman you are way off the mark ,kudos to all who serve especially in either the Aussie Or Kiwi armed forces I have allways backed that up and that is their service no one elses. As for your uncle I have seen too many dickheads claiming this that or the other thing regarding service to take things at face value just ask him about scumbags who claim to have served and you will see why .Once again kudos to him .And your previous posts leave me dubious of anything you say and I see nothing conciliatory in your post ,if you are trying to put your hand out dont qualify it by adding nasty shit in there .I dont hate Aussies ,my kids are Aussies as were my previous wives so dont get what your saying there ,I direct vitriol at you but only by way of reply to whatever nasty crap you post ,what are we to congratulate you for posting garbage ? As for the wobblies I was at Suncorp barracking for them [ I have no problem with that so long as they arent playing the ABS] where were you ?Is picking on gay Asian Kiwis conciliatory ? which bit of your post is ? As for cooper you have no problem droning on rubbish regarding ABs like Maccaw so sauce-goose ....And you chose not to go to the ADFA ? ??? doesnt mean anything other than you didnt want to serve .If you dont what folks getting at you stop with the shit ,easy as that .Beandork sayiing slavery is justified because master hardly ever beats his property and treats them as well as he does his cattle is no justification .

 True cloudy ,if someones been taking shots at me and suddenly sticks their hand out ? I;m looking to see what he has in the other hand .Reds-man [ there you are a small courtesy ] after years of hate filled posts from you you can hardly blame us for not trusting you .heres a good rule of thumb ,dont post anything you wouldnt say to someones face .As for your uncle ,yup I can accept you not naming him but be aware that many people try to bask in unearned or reflected "glory " .

 warped dud calm down please. Take a deep breath and then find 10 good things to say about Redsman. If you get stuck ask Cloudy. Thereafter ask saSUE, then JW and finally the esteemed hacked waaaagh! I am sure success will meet your efforts.
I trust you feel enlightened about my excellent post re Exodus 15?  

Baboon-ou, I see you have used the following phrase several times on the threads where you are trying to promote your laughably stupid and childlike views: "the Universe created itself from nothing using the laws of gravity".

Where did you suck this crap from? Who ever claimed that the Universe "created itself" from nothing using the laws of gravity? Hmmm? Please answer the question and put up some proof.

As far as I know, no-one is claiming that the Universe "created itself from nothing" which is a silly and childlike notion that you have dreamt up. When it comes to the formation of the universe, modern cosmologists are pretty much agreed on the Big Bang theory which says nothing about creating anything from nothing.

According to the Big Bang theory, over 13 billion years ago, every single atom in the universe, every grain of sand, every planet, every star and every galaxy was condensed into a singularity so incredibly small, so dense and so hot that we cannot conceive of it. Gravity didn't cause the singularity to explode into the universe we know today. During the first few trillionths of nanoseconds of the Big Bang (the Planck epoch), the four fundamental forces of nature (electromagnetism, gravitation, weak nuclear interaction and strong nuclear interaction) were all one force. It was only between 10–43 second and 10–36 second after the Big Bang that gravity separated itself out from the other forces, during what was known as the Grand unification epoch.

I'm not claiming to be a cosmologist or a physicist but I do defer to the expertise of our modern day scientists when it comes to things like this rather than the fairy-stories created by primitive herdsmen.

Baboon-ou, if you want to talk about the Big Bang then at least read up about the basic fundamentals of the theory. That way you won't sound like a complete moron. If you think mine is some crazy minority view, do a bit of reading and you'll find that it is the accepted view of educated and non-brainwashed people.

 rooitwit the person propounding this aburd notion is the atheist Stephen Hawkin. He was of course desparate to disprove any idea of God creating the universe. Dont act dumb, I explained all this to you and even quoted  what Hawkins said and a step by step demolition of his ludicrous arguments.
Bwahahhahahaha this is the best the atheistis have - Hawkins being their top brain. 
Face facts rooitwit you guys are toast.  Science has been catching up with bible revelation and now its all egg for the poor atheists! 

 rooitwit you can read it in Stephen Hawkin's book the Grand design(a misleading title as he says the is no design).On page 180 he writes:"because there is a law of gravity, the Universe can an will create itself out of nothing".Better still read Prof John lennox's book re God and Stephen Hawkin. He completely demolishes this rediculous statement.In the end you see how desaparete the atheists are - they are indeed toast. I am glad you realsie how stupid this si but wonder if you really understand how daft it is. Do you recall my posting Lenn oxes refutation of this absurd view?

 Rooineck is spot on , evidence for the "big bang " theory is overwhelming ,Edwin Hubble first came up with evidence of an expanding universe ,indeed many many smarter men than you beenhead have thought this out .But a mountain of evidence means nothing to someone who thinks the ABS have lost to the Boks for the last 2 years .Like all deniers you choose to overlook actual evidence over what some peanut came up with while sitting on the dunny .[ where all that bullshit of yours belongs ]

 For those interested re the time frame of creation read Prof John Lenoxes book "Seven days that divide the world".Read pages 52 to 63 for starters.The verb created in genisis1 is in the perfect tense," and the normal use ofthe perfect tense at the very begining of a pericope is to ensure that an event that took place before the storyline gets under way.Thus the "begining" of geneiss one DID NOT TAKE PLACE ON DAY ONE AS IS SOMETIMES ASSUMED.It is clear the initial creation took place before day one. This means the age of the earth and universe is a separate question from the interpretaion of the days. The age of the Universe is not disclosed. It may well be old. THE BIBLE DOES not PRECLUDE AN OLD UNIVERS/EARTH.Looking very closely at the hebrew text Lennox makes some very interesting points.In the seventh day there is no mention of evening and morning - a striking ommission. The seventh day continues until today as God is "resting from his work of creation" although still working re sustaining the universe.In genesis 2.4 the word "when" is used to translate "in the day" and here its like an eldery man saying In my day there were quite a few aircraft in the sky. He would be using the word day correctly but not to referIng to a 24 hour period.It is also noted that the defite article is not used to describe days 1 to 5 but only 6 to 7.I cannot go into all the detail here but it is clear that again the bible does not preclude for example days of creation separated by time. Lennox is a professor of pure mathematics at the University of Oxford. He has a brilliant clear thinking mind.
I would remind all that the atheist postion was that the universe had no beginiing. Ou rooitwit bought into that position. When debating Richard Dorkins Prof Lennox reminded dorkins of that error that modern science has debunked.  Dorkins tried to shrug it off saying it was no big deal as the bible may have got it right but it had a fifty fifty chance of being right!! HahahahahahahahahaBut it was of course a very big deal. All this accounts for Stephen Hawkin's desparate attempt to argue "because there is a law of gravity, the Universe can an will create itself out of nothing".There is now nowhere to hide for the atheist. The discovery of the Human genome and its billions of letters (using a 4 letter language) and the mind blowing complexity of the simplest cell have totally undone the aethist. RIP aethism. Trouble us no longer. "The fool has said in his heart there is no God" Time to become wise.

 More embarrassment to you friend JW. Its modern science that is burying the atheist. What is great is those believeing the bible got it right. In the begining. Yes there was a begining and at long last science has had to acknowleddge that. 
So what would you think more logical JW. This incredibly complex and brilliantly designed universe was created or that the laws of gravity created it from nothing.(The aethists best shot at explaining matters which even ou rooitwit thinks is crazy - could be some hope for ou rooitwit but I mustnt get too optimistic as he just doesnt want to face facts)

Sorry to laugh at all this oaks but to think sane people actually believe all this nonsense is really incredible. Hahahhahahahaha

 Dev adv we have been talking some science here. Have you anything to refute the biblical and scientific view that the universe has a beginning. I await with interest your views if you have anything coherent to say.  
I do trust you can do better than the hapless dorkins! 

Beeno: where does it say in the bible that the scoreboard dosen't count? lol

 Jw I didnt say dont count but I did say it does not tell the whole story and also that it sometimes arrives at the wrong conclusion. 
Yes Cloudy a more absurd postion on matters would be very difficult to imagine. Hence the biblical quote - a fool has said in his heart there is no God. The heavens declare the GLORY of God. 
Time to wise up. Put away this nonsense and seek God while you can as He will reveal himself to all those who seek Him.

Beeno: both sides have taken up their weapons it might be time to make your exit  

 

 

JW: looking out for his friend Beeno