MOMozart
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MOMozartCaptain49,914 posts
12 Jul 2015, 16:56#2
Another lurid headline. Say Tokkie while we are talking about Village idiots, fill us in on your educational accomplishments. Do you have a matric?
CLclevermike
Coach57,555 posts
CLclevermikeCoach57,555 posts
12 Jul 2015, 17:31#3
I may not be a doctorate and pretend that I am a medical specialist like you - but have a lot more than a matric certificate. But that has nothing to do with rugby discussions on this site. What is applicable is the issue of rugby and that is where common sense iro of the game itself counts.
No admit it - you use the players I listed above to escape from tight corners you painted yourself into.
12 Jul 2015, 17:41#4
Ou Tokkie HangtieteMorne Matfield Morne Matfield Morne Matfield
CLclevermike
Coach57,555 posts
CLclevermikeCoach57,555 posts
12 Jul 2015, 17:58#5
Ceradunce
You have it wrong - I do not use diversion by bringing in players not at all dealt with under a topic in discussion - that is the preserve of Mozart, Desert disaster and yourself.
When I do mention under team selection the non-performers it includes -
Morne Steyn, Ouma Victoria Matfield, Oupa Jannie du Plessis, Fat Francois Steyn, Datter Willem Alberts and Snail JP Pietersen.
Happy Idiots Day to you.
MOMozart
Captain49,914 posts
MOMozartCaptain49,914 posts
12 Jul 2015, 18:16#6
So Tokkie....if I was so wrong when I said this Stephanie stuff is wishful thinking, where is Stephanie? Who was right and who was wrong.
12 Jul 2015, 18:17#7
This thread was about JJ and Serfontein:
Where JJ goes can Step be more than a step behind
..... and then this was the very first reply.....
"He amounts to more than most of your present favourites do. Morne is slow without a step (fact is slower than a carthorse)"
MOMozart
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MOMozartCaptain49,914 posts
12 Jul 2015, 18:34#8
Classic. I suppose it's kind of the same thing, we all have favourites and non favourites. The difference is Morne, Alberts and Victor have made huge contributions to Springbok rugby...WCs, TNs, S15s
But in the case of Lambie, Reinach, Stephanie, Stepfontein, Lomp and his great hero Labuschagne...what have they actually done? I guess there is Lambie's kick...that's it. But there is so much on the negative side, like Lomp running into touch when the Boks were on the edge of beating NZ in NZ, missing the Bargie scrum half for a try.
The other massive difference is Tokkie lies....over and over again. About de Allende against Kurodrani most recently....but about Victor and Morne all the time.
CLclevermike
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CLclevermikeCoach57,555 posts
12 Jul 2015, 18:48#9
The list of Mozart players are longer than those I mentioned the Steyns, Fourie and Pietersen? I mentioned them because of the hypocrisy involved here. You take sideswipes at players you do not like - but when the players are worse than the players you dislike - there is not a word about their deficiencies. Fransie is far slower than Serfontein and clumsy to boot - but he is held up as a faultless hero, Serfontein is denigrated without any limit on the falseness or not of allegations made. The same with Morne, Jacque Fourie and JP Pietersen.
I am not defending any player - but when BS is written about them - often based on false interpretation of things often including lies and dubious statements - I am not at all happy about it. I will then defend players even though I myself have reservations about them.
Honesty si the best policy - hypocrisy is BS.
12 Jul 2015, 19:15#10
"....... I am not defending any player......."
Really?
"Meyer Bosman's mother told me that Goosen........"
CLclevermike
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CLclevermikeCoach57,555 posts
13 Jul 2015, 01:46#11
And you - without seeing matches and relying only on newspaper reports knows better. What a joke. Incidentally Goosen is in the same position as anybody else - I respond to poison pen stupidities by some members - you included - and try and get a real perspective as to what is going on.
I have been clear on players - no performance and no access to the Springbok team - That applies to all players and that is why I am not punting Goosen at present. That is where I differ from the three Village Idiots who are stuck in the past and savage any players they dislike - whether their arguments are factual or not. Fact is that the players whom I criticize are basically substandard in performance - while you three do not mind to lie about what happen in matches and carry on with foibles you dreamt up yourself.
However, that has nothing to do with what is intended with this thread. It deals only with how the three Idiots use certain players to divert attention away from issues discussed on this site when they are cornered with no logic in their statements.
13 Jul 2015, 12:06#12
Wrong. I rarely comment on games that I have not seen and when I have not seen it, I say so, before commenting and have no issue to be corrected. You, on the other hand, comment on gamed that say that you have seen and then blatantly lie about what you saw.
CLclevermike
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CLclevermikeCoach57,555 posts
13 Jul 2015, 13:05#13
Ag foeitog Doffies
The people that say I lie normally pretend things happened the way they want to see it happening - so far removed from the truth that it is unbelievable. I write what really happened and that is the end of the story. This may not be popular with the prejudiced idiots - of which you are one.