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The Montpellier - Youlon game

Started by clevermike22 REPLIES322 VIEWS· 08 Nov 2015, 03:45
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clevermikeCoach57,555 posts
08 Nov 2015, 03:45
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08 Nov 2015, 03:45#1
After a absolute lot of garbage about the match written by Mozart and Ceradunce - where they blamed Jacques du Plessis for the loss - some clarification of what actually happen is necessary. 
The following from News 24:
"Australian flyhalf Quade Cooper enjoyed the ideal introduction to the Top 14 as he steered Toulon to a 52-8 thrashing of Montpellier on Saturday.

Cooper flourished behind a dominant pack, with Fijian wing Josua Tuisova scoring a second-half hat-trick as the home side ran in eight tries to one for a well-deserved bonus point.


"You can see with Quade that after just two training sessions, he's very much at ease!" Toulon centre Maxime Mermoz said.


"He attacks a lot and doesn't hesitate to force the pass."

Cooper was little used by the Wallabies in the World Cup, but showed few signs of ring rustiness in his first run-out for the three-time European champions.

His fallibility and genius were both on show in the first-half, a no-look grubber setting up the second of Lachie Turner's tries but a forced one-handed sling pass leading to Montpellier's intercept try through Julien Malzieu.


Toulon might have been missing the likes of Bryan Habana, Matt Giteau, Drew Mitchell, Ma'a Nonu, Leigh Halfpenny, Duane Vermuelen, Paul O'Connell, Frederic Michalak and James O'Connor, but they could still afford to field a star-studded team packed with experienced internationals.


Bernard Laporte named nine foreigners in his starting Toulon line-up, with Montpellier coach Jake White plumping for a staggering 11. There were a further eight foreigners on both benches in a sharp realisation of the globalisation of the Top 14, where clubs are funded by multi-millionaire owners. In this case it involves Mourad Boudjellal, who has bankrolled the star-studded Toulon team through the millions made from his comic book empire, and Mohed Altrad, who made his millions in scaffolding and cement after a tough early life that saw him start out as a bedouin in the Syrian desert.

In an ironic twist, even the referee was a foreigner: Argentinian Juan Silvestre officiated the game in English.


Toulon scrumhalf Jonathan Pelissie sent a penalty effort wide early on in a cagey start by both sides

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Montpellier's loosehead prop Bees Roux paid the price for three collapsed scrums in the opening 10 minutes, Silvestre brandishing the yellow card.


Delon Armitage, with a clear two-on-one, failed to pass to his brother Steffon with the line beckoning, Montpellier's Australian captain Ben Mowen also shown yellow for a ruck infringement in the build-up.


Toulon finally broke the deadlock after 21 minutes when American lock Manu Samoa split the cover to sprint in from 30 metres for a try.  With Montpellier's defence in disarray, Toulon skipper Juan Smith managed a great inside pass to Turner for a second home try at a sun-kissed Stade Felix-Mayol. Turner crossed for his second just two minutes later, Cooper producing a beautiful, no-look grubber for the winger to touch down over the line.


Ben Lucas finally got Montpellier on the board with a 36th-minute penalty before Cooper handed the visitors a lifeline back into the game. A forced pass was intercepted by ex-Clermont winger Malzieu, who outran Turner over 70 metres, Lucas going wide with the conversion.


Toulon nailed an attacking bonus point when Fijian winger Tuisova scored the first of three quick-fire tries, played in after Cooper held up his pass from close range.    Tuisova scored his second after Malzieu was sucked off his line from a five-metre scrum, allowing the Fijian a free run-in and Anthony Floch's misspass was picked off by Tuisova, who sprinted in for his hat-trick in the 62nd minute.


Ubiquitous No 8 Steffon Armitage was at the back of a driving maul to dot down for Toulon's seventh try, before France scrum-half Sebastien Tillous-Borde rubbed salt in Montpellier's wounds, cutting back in for a fine try after being played in by Georgian giant Mamuka Gorgodze and Juan Martin Feranadez-Lobbe following a turnover, converted by former All Black Tom Taylor."


Jake is in the same boat as Meyer - useless player selections and a poor archaic game plan.   A few years ago Mozart wrote books about Pat Cilliers when he was playing for the Stormers - this game proved that he is a flop.  


Being totally ignorant about player evaluation White made some serious contracting errors.  Bees Roux - what a rubbish selection.  


What our local village idiots do not realize is that Toulon with Quaie Cooper  played proper rugby - the crud dished up by coaches like White and Meyer is taking rugby backwards. 

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MozartCaptain49,914 posts
08 Nov 2015, 06:51
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08 Nov 2015, 06:51#2
Haha...good old Quail Cooper. Actually I said nothing about the game, but it's gratifying to see you were taken off your elicit sites for as long as it took you to write this book about nothing.  
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clevermikeCoach57,555 posts
08 Nov 2015, 08:07
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08 Nov 2015, 08:07#3
 Mozart - Dofdoos
I do nit visit illicit sites - you thick bloody idiot.  So you said nothing about Jacques du Plessis - you repetitive liar?  
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CeradynePro9,374 posts
08 Nov 2015, 23:08
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08 Nov 2015, 23:08#4
 "After a absolute lot of garbage about the match written by Mozart and Ceradunce - where they blamed Jacques du Plessis for the loss"
Eish ou Sopdoos. Now wouldn't it be great if you could quote my exact words were I blamed Jacques Du Plessis for the loss? Come on. I dare you. Quote me. 
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MozartCaptain49,914 posts
08 Nov 2015, 23:22
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08 Nov 2015, 23:22#5
You incredibly thick troller of elicit sites....I made a comment about Jacques du Plessis when you and the Neanderthal were convinced he hadn't played in the game and told us so.....so how, I ask you with tears rolling down my cheeks, could my comment about du Plessis have been about the game?
Thick doesn't begin to cover it.
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clevermikeCoach57,555 posts
09 Nov 2015, 02:20
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09 Nov 2015, 02:20#6
 That comment from the thickest and most rugby brain deficient troll on this site is really rich.  I am not a great supporter of Du Plessis as a loosie - never was - but as a lock he is twice the player Matfield was during the period March 2014 to date.
White is as thick as you are - playing a lock at 7 means you are trying to play the game with a Tight 6 combination - losing a loosie in the process.   However, in your case you want to play low work rate Alberts at 7 to off-set the deficient Matfield as a Tight 5 player - losing both a lock and a loosie in that process and still ending up with a Tight 4 situation.   .      .  
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MozartCaptain49,914 posts
09 Nov 2015, 04:57
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09 Nov 2015, 04:57#7
Diversion...let's get back to the question. How could I have been commenting about the game when I commented about du Plessis....when you and the Neanderthal had just told us, wrongly, he wasn't playing in the game.
Answer that and stop sliming off the topic. 
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clevermikeCoach57,555 posts
09 Nov 2015, 08:12
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09 Nov 2015, 08:12#8
When Saffex mentioned in a new thread the massive loss by Montpellier, the braindead Ceradunce came up with a vicious attack on Jacques Du Plessis and the equally brain dead Mzoart carried on with the attack.  There was a diversion when ABF found a difference on the club website in that they mentioned Willie du Plessis and not Jacques du Plessis as the player at 7 - but that was settled afterwards.
The dofdose did not apologize for their original attack on  Du Plessis and now the most idiotic attempt at diversion followed.  The attack on Du Plessis because of the game being reported on had suddenl;yu nothing to do with the game.  How this dofdoos can say that is beyond the limit of understanding of any logical person.  
The worm is wriggling around now and that is evident in virtually all threads he is commenting on so as to save face in future.   A bad out-of-date and completely idiotic member is finding himself more and more covered in egg and is trying to get out off it.      
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CeradynePro9,374 posts
09 Nov 2015, 10:51
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09 Nov 2015, 10:51#9
Come on you think piece of after birth of a syphilis pig. Quote me where I (a) made a vicious attack on Du Plessis and (b) blamed Du Plessis for the loss. Quote me or STFU. Doos.
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carpetmuncherPro1,667 posts
09 Nov 2015, 11:04
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09 Nov 2015, 11:04#10
 ceradyne there is no need for that hey 
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carpetmuncherPro1,667 posts
09 Nov 2015, 11:11
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09 Nov 2015, 11:11#11
 white suffers from the same meyer syndrome lack of ablity to understand the changes and if you overcoach this is the kind of results one gets...
meyer and white are cut from the same cloth and the more they lose the more they over coach....its a natural response from people that lack vision.
conceptional skils are just as important for a coach as technical skills. if you cannot think long term and align your short term and long goals you are on the road to nowhere.
the same concept applies in business no difference
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clevermikeCoach57,555 posts
09 Nov 2015, 11:11
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09 Nov 2015, 11:11#12
 Dofdoos
Your sarcasm on the issue of Du Plessis being in the losing team - the only player mentioned by you - was clear evidence of an attack on that player - stupid fart.   Your background on this site is murky - so I would not come out with the foul-mouthed rubbish you tried above.
What is clear is that you indeed are a dofdoos.       
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CeradynePro9,374 posts
09 Nov 2015, 11:30
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09 Nov 2015, 11:30#13
   You are clutching at straws you thick fcuk.
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clevermikeCoach57,555 posts
09 Nov 2015, 11:33
#14
09 Nov 2015, 11:33#14
 Nobody in his wildest efforts to beat you can be thicker than you are.
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CeradynePro9,374 posts
09 Nov 2015, 11:36
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09 Nov 2015, 11:36#15
 Still sidestepping................ .........?
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KalaedFreddieClub Pro495 posts
09 Nov 2015, 12:57
#16
09 Nov 2015, 12:57#16
 Guys this site is technically inept - but you can copy and paste.  Instead of calling each other silly names like preschooler kids why not just (Mike) copy and paste where the guy(s) said what you are implying? Clearly for me, a person of colour, like you fools like to call us, - it is clear that the accuser does not possess the evidence he claims to have, which in that case means that the accuser is falsely accusing the accused in an endeavour to garner favour with like-minded posters which is clearly unethical and should be contemned by all.
However if the accuser can produce hard evidence then the accused stand fairly accused and should publicly apologise.   
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CeradynePro9,374 posts
09 Nov 2015, 13:03
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09 Nov 2015, 13:03#17
 Fine by me Freddie. 
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PakieCaptain17,321 posts
09 Nov 2015, 14:18
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09 Nov 2015, 14:18#18
Mike won't be able to quote anything because, as usual, he was lying. That's why he is ducking and diving around a very simple and direct request instead of just providing the necessary backup to his claims. So let me help.
Ceradyne: "Quote me where I (a) made a vicious attack on Du Plessis and (b) blamed Du Plessis for the loss." 
This was Ceradyne's comment on Jacques du Plessis: "Nope. Fransie didn't play but the great brilliant magnificent Jacques du Plessis did."

It applies to neither (a) nor (b) of Mike's accusations.
Here is what Mozart said:"Oh the mighty Jacques.......another of Dave's 2019 WC winners. Totally useless at flank, and not enough grunt at lock. Perhaps he can try moonlighting in he backline like Lomp"

Nowhere did either of them blame him for a loss of anything. Mozart is probably "attacking" the player, but Mike asking someone to apologize for attacking a player is about as hypocritical as it gets - especially after launching his own attack on White, Alberts and Matfield in just one comment in this thread alone.
Hope that's all sorted out now.
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KalaedFreddieClub Pro495 posts
09 Nov 2015, 15:40
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09 Nov 2015, 15:40#19
 Aha - Thank you Pakie.  You see there is always an issue when the accuser does not come to the party but a third-party does and brings with it the voice of reason.  Mozarts comment is not as much an attack as it is a bit of tong-in-cheek with his comparison.  As for Ceradyne, the attack (like many I have noticed) was totally unfounded - at worst he could be guilty of a sarcastic statement - which without the face-to-face emotion could be interpreted either as sarc or as genuine.
Seems to me as if in this instance the accuser stands accused of gross manipulation of posted content.
Mike my broer ek bid vir jou.  Salaam!
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CeradynePro9,374 posts
09 Nov 2015, 15:49
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09 Nov 2015, 15:49#20
 Guilty as charged, Freddie. 
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DennyCaptain12,893 posts
09 Nov 2015, 15:51
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09 Nov 2015, 15:51#21
 Hang him!
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CeradynePro9,374 posts
09 Nov 2015, 16:29
#22
09 Nov 2015, 16:29#22
 Hahahaha. In die kak.
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DennyCaptain12,893 posts
09 Nov 2015, 16:31
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09 Nov 2015, 16:31#23
 what's new? Welcome to the club....
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