This centre pairing can't win the WC

Agreed, but what is this mystical evidence that says we are a way better team than 2019. The sum of the parts suggests exactly the opposite.

Beast is way better than Kitshoff….Beast won the WC

Willie is far less likely to make a big mistake than Willemse and he sees the field better….ergo better

Mostert was better than Lomp in the final and he’s be better today.

Am even if he plays is not the Am of 2019.

And I can’t see one of those 2023 players who has gained skill, athleticism or nous since 2019, and except for those I indicated, few are even as good.

Draad raises the white flag,

bizarre but interesting deductive reasoning there...I think...not!

I agree ….you think…not.

The Boks under Erasmus endeavour to reduce the game to a structureless mess. 50/50s when SA is most likely to get the nod from the ref. Ireland rose above the mediocrity, but Scotland didn't (exactly as predicted). 

Wehe . . . funny thread this!

Moffie and Doos maintain that the Springboks cannot win a RWC with De Allende and Kriel as the centres.

In 2023 (after the Boks won a RWC with DDA at inside centre) Moffie shoots himself in the foot by reviving this thread. When it's pointed out that we did in fact win a RWC with DDA at centre, Moffie and Doos immediately backtracked claiming it was the pairing of DDA and Kriel that couldn't win us a RWC.

Now another year has gone by and we did in fact win a RWC with DDA and Kriel as the centre pairing . . . so what do these two sputtering egg-faced clowns say now? Is it too much to ask them to man up and admit they got it wrong?

LMAO!

Rooinek

Thanks for recovering this threat initiated by a prejusiced rugby idiot who lied about what happened in WC matches on a constant basis.   The thread started after Meyer - a hero of Mozart he never criticized - selected a WC squad in which 8 of the playes were factually unplayable - and who in the case of Alberts never had a minute game time in the 2015 RWC.   Some of the farts he picked were totally unplayable (for instance Matfield and Morne Steyn) - the ohers played for 1 match of much less than that.   .   

The first lies about Du Toit and De Allende originated from the piss head started then and never stopped.    I can give a long list of lies about what happened in 2019 and rhe 2023 WC by the same piss head idiot.    Examples - he lied about the try scored by De Allende against Wales - he lied about the fact that Du Toit scored a try against the All Blacks and claimed Du Toit only becme the World Player of the Year because the Springboks won the World Cup. - in other words the 8 interntional experts who dcided on the honour were fools and he knows rugby better than anybody else.

He claimed that the Springboks and Erasmus did not deserve to win the 2023 RWC and is sstill in mourning about the fact that they did.   He lied about a try scored by De Allende against the French and gave no credit for the heroic defense of Du Toit in the final.

For Piss head Mozart Easmus is a phony as a coach and he introduuced no improvement in the style of rugby played by the Springboks and lied about what caused the loss of the Irish test in July and  the  RC test against Argentina lost becuase the two players key to any victory - De Allende and Du Toit - was missing from the team that day.    So the two players whom experts regard as the best in their positions in world rugby are shit - and the coach produced nothing to improve SA rugby.   His moaning about Erasmus on site was on virtually a daily basis repeated since he came up with the classic in April 2018 that SARU should never have replaced Coetzee by Erasmus..  

Mozart has a reputation on site that when he raised rugby issues  in what he said happened  must always be regarded as the exact opposite to what he claimed is the case.   .

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Very very embarrassing for Mozzie and Doos. 

Doos felt so embarrassed after our second RWC win that he unfortunately flounce off after some epic meltdowns. 

Mozzie stayed on hoping Rassie would at some point crash and he could say I told you so. Trouble is nothing can change the success Rassie has already had. 

Mozzie in a tight spot! 

Obviously I was wrong. 

Thanks Mozart  for that admission - after all we are human and make mistakes, but this is the first time you admitted on this site that you were wrong.       

Yes, it’s a very rare occurrence…

"Yes, it’s a very rare occurrence…"

Not really...the rarity is in you admitting it...it's a start I suppose...I see you also slightly changed your stance on PSDT...Thanos level sh!+...small steps Moz, we don't want you to upset the balance of the multiverse too much...

And of course I was right in my original statement, we didn’t win WC 2015 largely because Dud Allende failed to prevent Nonu from setting up the winning try by Barrett.