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Tim Swiel lost to Quins

Started by Saffolk 21 REPLIES388 VIEWS· 08 Apr 2015, 13:57
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Saffolk Captain30,741 posts
08 Apr 2015, 13:57
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08 Apr 2015, 13:57#1

In news that is unlikely to really surprise anyone, Tim Swiel has opted to join Harlequins full-time from the start of the new European season.

 

Former Western Province age-group star Swiel was signed by Jake White with much fanfare ahead of the 2014 Super Rugby season, but rather than delivering further on that promise, endured a frustrating ten months in Durban. Beset by injury and unable to nail down a regular starting berth, it was a frustrated young men who left for the UK in October last year to join Quins on a loan basis. The idea was to let him finally get some game time under his belt and build up a head of steam before returning for this year’s Super Rugby campaign.

 

For Swiel, who is English-qualified, the lure of playing for the country of his birth was always going to be a factor and this, coupled with his immediate “fit” into the Harlequins set up and game plan seem to have signaled the death knell to his Sharks ambitions. Originally slated to return to the Sharks in time for the Super Rugby competition, there has been no sign of Swiel in Durban; most fans jump to conclusions in the absence of information and in this case, I guess we’ve got it pretty much right.

“It is with great excitement that I am committing to Harlequins full time. The decision wasn’t a tricky one due to the fact I had such a great time on my loan spell. The Harlequins set up and supporter base is amazing and I can’t wait to wear the quarters again,” says Swiel on the Premiership Rugby website.

 

Glad to know that it wasn’t hard for him to leave the Sharks – nor is there any need to thank them for agreeing to release him early from his contract. It’s not clear what Tim will do for his remaining time as a Sharks player – clearly pitching up at practice is not on the immediate agenda.

 

Stuffed around at the Sharks and now backing a side that showed faith in him - typically useless SA sides who have no clue when it comes to player investment.

 

We can expect the same from the likes of Pat Howard at WP, Tyler Fisher at the Sharks and Dries Swanepoel at the Bulls......it wont come as a shock to see these three sign up north shortly

sharkbok
sharkbokCaptain23,285 posts
08 Apr 2015, 14:05
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08 Apr 2015, 14:05#2
He would have done better under Plumtree who encouraged more running, and less kick and chase. That is all that South African coaches understand is kick and chase.
RO
RooinekCaptain18,117 posts
08 Apr 2015, 15:12
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08 Apr 2015, 15:12#3
"That is all that South African coaches understand is kick and chase."

I don't think Joke White even understood that.
MA
manceRookie63 posts
08 Apr 2015, 17:14
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08 Apr 2015, 17:14#4
 Stuffed around at the Sharks?
Was there 10 months, was mostly injured and was poor to average in the few times he got on the field. The Sharks biggest mistake was to sign him and let Rob Du Preez go.
CL
clevermikeCoach57,555 posts
08 Apr 2015, 17:32
#5
08 Apr 2015, 17:32#5
 The biggest problem was that the stuffed up Coetzee let this player slipped through his fingers and ended up with the useless and clueless Catrakillis and Coleman as Stormers flyhalf.
Jake White grabbed the guy and he was rarely used - because White's idea about a flyhalf is that he must kick the sh!t out of balls and for the rest do nothing of note with the ball.  Swiel did not fit into that type of thoughtless rugby and the few times he did get playing time he had Fransie at center and Fransie could not understand the plays Swiel tried to get going after reading of the game - so most moves broke down.  
Problem is that the only Provinces where Swiel would have been appreciated were the Cheetahs and the Lions - the rest are or have been coached to play dead-head rugby.  
Swiel did well for Harlequins when eh played for them in December - January and that is the reason why he was signed by them.  I think he will have an interesting career and his previous coaches will yet realize they were fools to let him slip through their fingers.       
SA
Saffolk Captain30,741 posts
08 Apr 2015, 17:40
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08 Apr 2015, 17:40#6
Ah mance as ignorant as they come .........Swiel is twice the talent du Preez or useless Zielanga is......they messed him around big time 
CE
CeradynePro9,374 posts
08 Apr 2015, 17:46
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08 Apr 2015, 17:46#7
 s clevermike

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April 08, 2015, 17:32:35  The biggest problem was that the stuffed up Coetzee let this player slipped through his fingers and ended up with the useless and clueless Catrakillis and Coleman as Stormers flyhalf.
Jake White grabbed the guy and he was rarely used - because White's idea about a flyhalf is that he must kick the sh!t out of balls and for the rest do nothing of note with the ball.  Swiel did not fit into that type of thoughtless rugby and the few times he did get playing time he had Fransie at center and Fransie could not understand the plays Swiel tried to get going after reading of the game - so most moves broke down.  
Uhmmmm. It was actually Rob Wagner who could not sway Swiel's old man who was/is a friend  of Jake White.

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manceRookie63 posts
08 Apr 2015, 17:51
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08 Apr 2015, 17:51#8
 LOL..........I've noticed your exeptional talent for spotting the "next best thing" after seeing them play a few junior games on TV. Your hard on for Tyler Fisher is still the subject of much mirth.
SA
Saffolk Captain30,741 posts
08 Apr 2015, 17:56
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08 Apr 2015, 17:56#9

Ah let me guess you are one of those little wankers from Sharksworld......you little twats still all sitting in a circle holding hands.....how sweet.

 

Given how bloody useless the Sharks are at present.......it would hardly have taken much to have worked out that Tyler Fisher at 13 might just have been the answer.......but you are to thick to comprehend this basic fact  

CE
CeradynePro9,374 posts
08 Apr 2015, 18:31
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08 Apr 2015, 18:31#10
 Why so bitter ou Dawie? Don't tell me that you were banned from Sharksworld as well.
MO
MozartCaptain49,914 posts
08 Apr 2015, 18:35
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08 Apr 2015, 18:35#11
Swiel a loss? Ah well he and Goosen can communicate by semaphore...bench to bench 
MA
manceRookie63 posts
08 Apr 2015, 19:06
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08 Apr 2015, 19:06#12
 Lol.....you must have seen Fisher play a lot to make a statement like that!!
SA
Saffolk Captain30,741 posts
08 Apr 2015, 21:30
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08 Apr 2015, 21:30#13
No one would probably only need to watch Fisher once to realise he is a far better option than washed up Murray but hey what do I know?
Let me guess a clown like you is more in favour of a Murray or JP at 13......go figure.
And you wonder why the Sharks keep getting their arses kicked.
Bunch of ignorant hand holding twats


SA
Saffolk Captain30,741 posts
08 Apr 2015, 21:34
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08 Apr 2015, 21:34#14
No Moz we all join you in rejoicing in the departure of our bright young talents and find favour in supporting the selections of the likes of old man Matfield......It all makes perfect sense!!!
I give thanks everyday that I don't see our beloved game through your eyes!!
MO
MozartCaptain49,914 posts
08 Apr 2015, 22:59
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08 Apr 2015, 22:59#15
But you do see it through my eyes Dave.....the actual Bok teams are far closer to my choices than yours.
If you could see him through my eyes....he doesn't look English at all" 

Compliments to Cabaret.
CL
clevermikeCoach57,555 posts
09 Apr 2015, 01:47
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09 Apr 2015, 01:47#16
Mozart's dismal lack of knowledge about the game of rugby makes his observations about players constant flops.   He would not recognise talent if it hits him smack in the face.
The guy who support the Steyns - enough said.   
MO
MozartCaptain49,914 posts
09 Apr 2015, 04:51
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09 Apr 2015, 04:51#17
Well  if your talent would only stay healthy long enough to judge, perhaps  they could persuade the sceptics. As it is the biggest excitement is reading their medical reports. Speaking of which, how much longer is the Reid/ Fruean bunny going to convalesce.
SA
Saffolk Captain30,741 posts
09 Apr 2015, 13:34
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09 Apr 2015, 13:34#18
 Yeah Moz and therein lies the problem, your team lost to Wales, Ireland, NZ and Oz last season.....your team keeps coming second and true to form you don't see the problem with that.
The day your and clueless Meyers side start coming first is the day I starting listening to you.
That day will never come for your team never comes close to reflecting the best players we have at our disposal.....forget game plans and patterns.....you guys can't even get the basics right like selecting the best 15.
Imagine finding favour in 38 year old Matfield as your starting lock.....its beyond a joke. It seriously defies belief.
CL
clevermikeCoach57,555 posts
09 Apr 2015, 14:10
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09 Apr 2015, 14:10#19
Mozart
Jordaan should be back before the return of everyone's bunny (Francois Steyn).  If he just manages to stay on the field of play long enough without being carded for illegal play he could perhaps (and it is a long shot) perhaps for the first time since his return from France in 2012 show us something of value.   
MO
MozartCaptain49,914 posts
09 Apr 2015, 14:19
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09 Apr 2015, 14:19#20

Dave no team that has Coetzee and Mohoje as flanks, Reinach and Lambie as half backs and the utterly ordinary Stepfontein as a centre......is my team.

 

That was more your team than my team, only Victor, Mohoje, Hendricks  and Jean were non starters in your ...er....books. It was more your team than my team that lost.

 

 

MO
MozartCaptain49,914 posts
09 Apr 2015, 14:22
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09 Apr 2015, 14:22#21
Read your post again Moronic ...it's so clumsy, it seems you are saying Jordaan is a card risk. Is that what you mean or is this just another assault on the language?
CL
clevermikeCoach57,555 posts
09 Apr 2015, 14:25
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09 Apr 2015, 14:25#22
 Mozart
Fransie is a card risk and has been sh!t poor since his return from France.  Who the hell is Joubert? 
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