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Started by Saffolk 8 REPLIES340 VIEWS· 24 Oct 2015, 23:13
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Saffolk Captain30,741 posts
24 Oct 2015, 23:13
#1
24 Oct 2015, 23:13#1
That the AB's are a better coached side who are used to winning. They are a team that knows how to execute whereas at times the Boks lacked direction.
The AB's achieve the upper hand through familiarity and consistency in selection. For the Boks Kriel, DA, Lood and Malherbe are new to the team as are du Preez and Schalk in terms of the period they have been away from the side.
The AB's don't have better players they just have a better unit of players....a better TEAM.
The Boks need to identify their best 25 players and make sure they play as a team for the next 2 years....with the odd new find coming into the mix.
PE
poi-ePro1,044 posts
24 Oct 2015, 23:23
#2
24 Oct 2015, 23:23#2
 That's a tad on the rich side considering we've won 11 out of 13 against the Boks, dominated super rugby and the rugby championship.  If you truly had the better players it would be reflected in some scrap of success in any tournament.
No country produces the depth New Zealand does.
SA
Saffolk Captain30,741 posts
24 Oct 2015, 23:29
#3
24 Oct 2015, 23:29#3
 Rubbish our players are as good if not better than yours....you have a far superior coach....therein lies the difference....Kiwi coaches dominate the international stage for a reason.
Right now I think we have better depth than you....we don't have the coaches apart from Ackers and Swys at the Lions and the new Bulls coach looks on the right track.
One certainty is that the AB pack did NOT dominate the Bok pack as you imply elsewhere...that is rubbish 
PE
poi-ePro1,044 posts
24 Oct 2015, 23:32
#4
24 Oct 2015, 23:32#4
 I think you'll find then wider rugby community would disagree with you Saf.
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Saffolk Captain30,741 posts
24 Oct 2015, 23:41
#5
24 Oct 2015, 23:41#5
Well do an in depth analysis of the young player base in SA and how pathetically conservative our coaches are.....I'd love to see a few Kiwi coaches unleashed on these youngsters.
There is no way a Kiwi coach would pass up on the likes of Faf de Klerk,  Kitshoff, Jaco Kriel etc for instance 
CA
carpetmuncherPro1,667 posts
25 Oct 2015, 10:46
#6
25 Oct 2015, 10:46#6
 we have the best talent that i do agree with but talent is worthless if not used correctly.
jaco kriel kitshoff brussouw faf de klerk and co are world class.... they are used in a pattern that allows them freedom to execute there skills within a pattern of play that allows us to play...when your rugby mindset is fundamentally flawed about how you approach the game then your just nog going to go anywhere
if sa rugby gets its house in order watch out rugby world
the hard calls need to be made now for us to move forward....jurie roux and co need to make the changes now and plan and build 
BE
Beeno1Captain40,032 posts
25 Oct 2015, 11:31
#7
25 Oct 2015, 11:31#7
 The squad selection was compromised by quotas and some poor selections. 
The wee abs won this on the back of a reversed penalty and a moment of madness by habana (his charge on Dan taking a penalty)The fact that we should have won the game barring these two incidents and playing such a poor game plan shows the Boks are unquestionably better.
Oh that the Boks would awake from their slumber and modernise!
The roll played by Oz George Ayoub I suspect was milignant as well. Was mcaaaw penalised for his foul on Louw - yet again.  
How many times in Super rugby do we get shafted by down under refs. Every week a SA side gets the short end. Time we went north for sure if at all possible.

JW
Just_winCaptain18,570 posts
25 Oct 2015, 12:17
#8
25 Oct 2015, 12:17#8
 Beeno, again making is post-game scoreboard adjustments. It doesn't work that way in the real world Beeno.  There are always "if only"... there were many suche events on the ABs side of things as well.
Looking forward to the final & then next year we will see how the Boks & ABs deal with the exodus of players.
CL
CleanCutPro9,905 posts
25 Oct 2015, 14:31
#9
25 Oct 2015, 14:31#9
 
Thing is ... for how much longer are we going to use he excuse of "if sa rugby gets it's house in order ... watch out" ... ??

With the current regime we will always be forced into including unwanted quotas. In fact the quota percentage can only be increased at the insistence of the government.

Nah ... it's time we accepted the fact that we are a third world nation with a third rate teams that lose to lowly countries like Japan and Scotland and Argentina.

We will never be allowed to have our best represent us.

 

 

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