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Total Lack of Respect

Started by Canterbury50 REPLIES1,373 VIEWS· 09 Aug 2021, 09:16
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CA
CanterburyClub Pro160 posts
09 Aug 2021, 09:16
#1
09 Aug 2021, 09:16#1

Very well summed up:

https://www.rugbypass.com/news/where-this-springboks-side-now-sits-after-lions-series-win

Only those in South Africa will deify this side, led from the top by an egotistical man who has enjoyed the glory but showed he can’t hack it under pressure and act with humility when the going gets tough.

Their first loss in the series led Rassie Erasmus to go on a toxic whinge-fest on social media, stooping to a new low and really setting the bar at Trump-levels of sour, sore loser behaviour that rugby has never seen.

All in the name of justice for the truth and absolute accuracy of the game, right? Where was this good-willed fight with World Rugby after games two and three? Ah right, nowhere to be found, only when your team loses.

Champions don’t need to play the victim-mentality blame game or bring the sport into disrepute. They just win and get on with it. The comeback series win would have looked so much better without Erasmus’ damaging cryfest.

Absolutely no respect down under or in Europe.


MO
moolaaPro2,380 posts
09 Aug 2021, 09:30
#2
09 Aug 2021, 09:30#2
A very cutting report but a lot of truth in it, especially about Rassie’s shameful rant that frankly nearly ruined the series. What do you say to this Saffex??
SE
SebPro2,680 posts
09 Aug 2021, 09:41
#3
09 Aug 2021, 09:41#3

Taken totally out of context, a very common tendency by those who just see what they want to see...no- where men.

CA
CanterburyClub Pro160 posts
09 Aug 2021, 09:41
#4
09 Aug 2021, 09:41#4

I have a lot of respect for the Boks because of their very good rugby history and the rivalry with the AB's.

To be honest - There are alot of things I like about Rassie but what he did during the Lions series from the rants and raves after the team lost and bullshit about being water boy were absolute bullshit.

I had problems with the South African TMO - That should not have happened.

And before you say it - It applies to the Bledisloe cup as well - The controlling team for each match should not be from NZ or Australia - This is very slack on the part of World Rugby - They have had plenty of time to sort this shit out.  

CA
CanterburyClub Pro160 posts
09 Aug 2021, 09:44
#5
09 Aug 2021, 09:44#5

There were real issues with the TMO in the 3rd test.

He should have never been placed in that position.

No I don't think he is a poor TMO - He just should not have been TMO for a series involving South Africa.

CA
CanterburyClub Pro160 posts
09 Aug 2021, 09:45
#6
09 Aug 2021, 09:45#6

That South African should have been binned and the try was originally from a knock on.

But you don't see Gatland jumping up and down about the fuck ups.

DB
DbDraadCaptain26,388 posts
09 Aug 2021, 10:18
#7
09 Aug 2021, 10:18#7

It's not a lack of respect,  it's an reaction to the lack of respect shown...might be the wrong reaction, but it's totally blown out of proportion. 

PA
PakieCaptain17,321 posts
09 Aug 2021, 10:23
#8
09 Aug 2021, 10:23#8

That South African should have been binned and the try was originally from a knock on.

There was no way to call a knock-on from the available evidence. I have watched that incident more times than I care to remember and I still can't see the ball going forward of Wiese at any point.

TH
TheTraditionalistPro4,003 posts
09 Aug 2021, 13:02
#9
09 Aug 2021, 13:02#9

South Africa was awarded three WCs for political causes, as the world of rugby felt necessary (and are still feeling necessary) to clear their dubious association with the apartheid regime in an attempt to kickstart at last rugby in South Africa.


That being reminded, it is gross to claim that champions just play and win.

In sports, and especially rugby, teams or people are reffed based on standings.Which means that a champion team, WC holder, is reffed as such. Now when the standard of reffing does not match the standing, which may have been the case for the first game, then a champion must complain.

A champion is a champion and is owed respect.

TH
TheTraditionalistPro4,003 posts
09 Aug 2021, 13:03
#10
09 Aug 2021, 13:03#10

That nearly ruined the series.... Nope, the series was ruined before that.

sharkbok
sharkbokCaptain23,233 posts
09 Aug 2021, 13:32
#11
09 Aug 2021, 13:32#11

Traditionalist, you will bow before your masters...

 -1st - IRB Rankings
- World Cup 2019 Champs
- British & Irish Lions winners (2021)
- 4 Nations champions (2019)

Springbok Lives Matter....


AU
AugenöffnerPro6,974 posts
09 Aug 2021, 13:38
#12
09 Aug 2021, 13:38#12

2009?

sharkbok
sharkbokCaptain23,233 posts
09 Aug 2021, 13:51
#13
09 Aug 2021, 13:51#13

fixed

sharkbok
sharkbokCaptain23,233 posts
09 Aug 2021, 13:51
#14
09 Aug 2021, 13:51#14

fixed

SE
SebPro2,680 posts
09 Aug 2021, 14:20
#15
09 Aug 2021, 14:20#15

It all could have been avoided if the ref just answered simple questions posed to him after the game, that's all, it is as simple as that. The coach and players just wanted to know what they did wrong so that they would not repeat them in the match to come...there was no insinuation to disrepect the ref.

Men of rugby behaving like drama queens.

SA
Saffolk Captain30,741 posts
09 Aug 2021, 14:57
#16
09 Aug 2021, 14:57#16
Who gives a fuck what you sour little Kiwis think sitting at number 2 in the world rankings Poor little babies
MO
MozartCaptain49,914 posts
09 Aug 2021, 15:51
#17
09 Aug 2021, 15:51#17

That article has made the point I have been trying to make,  more comprehensively. A team using 25% of the attacking elements of the game will never be a great team. This team plays old style Bools rugby…remember how we used to despise that.

Erasmus needed to fix our defence….Nienaber did that for him. We needed to fix our set pieces, Proudfoot sorted that for the WC. And we needed to improve the efforts HM and Coetzee made to develop an attacking game. Erasmus and the previously fired Stick contrived to go backwards.


The author talks about competing against the best. Erasmus never wanted to do that in 2020….the virus was an excuse to not compete. To bask in the glory of a WC win. There was no desire to go out there and flaunt our stuff. Because, I suspect, Erasmus wasn’t confident that would work out.


So I’m afraid this article has pretty much nailed it. Few in South Africa will agree….but that won’t change the views of rugby fans around the world. Unless we beat the ABs playing decent rugby, we will remain the team others want to see lose.


The ironical thing is the same fans that were turned off by the Lions’ series, were willing to look past the loss to the ABs in pools and there was real admiration for our WC win. And a chance for the Boks to really wear the world’s best mantle. Gone now with 2020’s chicken run, our Bools rugby  and Erasmus’ shameful and inaccurate tape.


SA
Saffolk Captain30,741 posts
09 Aug 2021, 16:03
#18
09 Aug 2021, 16:03#18
It’s already a great team
DB
DbDraadCaptain26,388 posts
09 Aug 2021, 17:56
#19
09 Aug 2021, 17:56#19

Ja Saffex, the detractors can't live with the truth, so they deny it...

MO
MozartCaptain49,914 posts
09 Aug 2021, 18:18
#20
09 Aug 2021, 18:18#20

Draad reading an old Boer using this woke language is priceless. You forgot ‘haters’ though.

DB
DbDraadCaptain26,388 posts
09 Aug 2021, 19:30
#21
09 Aug 2021, 19:30#21

Woke? That button doesn't work on me no more. WTF?...Old Boer...I'm 50, not that old these days. 

I'm just enjoying the Boks we have ATM...never thought we'd see it again after the 57-0 against NZ in 2017...thought we'd never come close to beating top teams again...was pleasantly surprised. 

SA
Saffolk Captain30,741 posts
09 Aug 2021, 19:35
#22
09 Aug 2021, 19:35#22
Great team, some really great players and a brilliant coach The Boks are back where they belong after decades in the wilderness Thank you Rassie
MO
MozartCaptain49,914 posts
09 Aug 2021, 20:40
#23
09 Aug 2021, 20:40#23
Decades….the article above just proved our 2007 to 2009 Boks have the superior record.
BE
Beeno1Captain40,032 posts
09 Aug 2021, 23:32
#24
09 Aug 2021, 23:32#24
The whole trouble here is we have an ongoing vendetta against Rassie that is old and tired, full of bile and vindictiveness. Talk about being butthurt! Bwhahahahahahhaha the more they blabber on the more obvious their bias and bigotry!As for this hapless nitwit Canterbury he is a gormless oaf who cannot be taken seriously.The record stands and nobody can possibly say anything other than its been a great achievement by players and coaches. Nobody but an embittered humiliated wretch can say otherwise! Hahahahahahahahahhahahaha Those whose egos have been badly bruised and all their hopes dashed again and again.
Sad people gripped by RDS that ravages them day and night!
Meanwhile true Bok supporters salute the Great Rassie and the Boks, rejoicing in an incredible run of victories. In the other corner we have the sour pusses joined by some who appears to be a kiwi as as clueless as ou warped dud. - their moaning and whining is so unbecoming but they are beyond help.The video was a masterstroke and a highlight of the series. Took a great man to do that!!! Loved it!!!!

CA
CanterburyClub Pro160 posts
10 Aug 2021, 00:42
#25
10 Aug 2021, 00:42#25
Saffex - You seem to be a very angry type of person.In fact I think Angry is an understatement.
SA
Saffolk Captain30,741 posts
10 Aug 2021, 00:53
#26
10 Aug 2021, 00:53#26
Angry with someone I dont know nor give a toss about???
AU
AugenöffnerPro6,974 posts
10 Aug 2021, 03:59
#27
10 Aug 2021, 03:59#27

Back after decades in the wilderness? Worst Bok side since 2002. It's not even close. Barely able to make it in the weakest era of SH for 50 years. 

MO
MozartCaptain49,914 posts
10 Aug 2021, 05:46
#28
10 Aug 2021, 05:46#28
Oh dear….if one doesn’t like Bools skop en donder  rugby you are full of bile. Actually many of those who were howling at HM for not being adventurous enough….are now lauding a coaching team that is  way more verkrampt than HM ever was.

AU
AugenöffnerPro6,974 posts
10 Aug 2021, 06:21
#29
10 Aug 2021, 06:21#29

Their outlandish outbursts highlight how much they are over compensating. The Snowflake approach: If you keep aggressively exaggerating, eventually you blur the line between reality and fiction. 

CA
CanterburyClub Pro160 posts
10 Aug 2021, 06:59
#30
10 Aug 2021, 06:59#30

that Saffex sure does have a heap of anger management problems.

I love getting bites from idiots like that.

CA
CanterburyClub Pro160 posts
10 Aug 2021, 07:02
#31
10 Aug 2021, 07:02#31

What a laugh.............

Throw the line out and you automatically get a bite from Saffex 

SA
Saffolk Captain30,741 posts
10 Aug 2021, 10:30
#32
10 Aug 2021, 10:30#32
Canterbury are you really this stupid?
sharkbok
sharkbokCaptain23,233 posts
10 Aug 2021, 11:06
#33
10 Aug 2021, 11:06#33
At least the Boks are not cheating. The All Blacks under Mccaw were cheats that won games they should have lost. 
Nowadays refs penalize the All-Black forward pack much more. 
AU
AugenöffnerPro6,974 posts
10 Aug 2021, 11:38
#34
10 Aug 2021, 11:38#34

The McCaw days formed a dark era for world rugby. Strangely, he was absolutely mauled in 2009. He was poor during the French two-test series, where they were beaten at home in game one, and barely won the next. Barely beat Italy in New Zealand and in Italy (ref was forced publicly apologise for penalising the All Blacks in Italy). McCaw was absolutely dominated by Brussow and the Wallabies. He had one good half against Wales, the first half, but the Welsh came back. Somehow, he won World Player of the Year. Brussow was the best player that season, and the very reason we were so dominant. 

TH
TheTraditionalistPro4,003 posts
10 Aug 2021, 13:06
#35
10 Aug 2021, 13:06#35

A team using 25% of the attacking elements of the game will never be a great team. This team plays old style Bools rugby…


SA does not know how to play a different insult to rugby. They will never learn how to play rugby. And they will keep enjoying the support from the world of rugby due to the past.

Most of the backline comes from the underfed population in SA as people are dying from starvation. They do not belong to SA rugby. The one winger who does played for the Lions and Scotland.

TH
TheTraditionalistPro4,003 posts
10 Aug 2021, 13:10
#36
10 Aug 2021, 13:10#36

People who love the rugby game have never bowed down to SA rugby. No matter the victories, they have stood tall .

SA could win all the WCs or more exactly be gifted all the WCs, it would change nothing.

SA rugby is the antithesis of the rugby game spirit and its values. A festering wound. Better to sever the limb than losing the whole.

Rugby life matters.

DB
DbDraadCaptain26,388 posts
10 Aug 2021, 13:21
#37
10 Aug 2021, 13:21#37

"Most of the backline comes from the underfed population in SA as people are dying from starvation. They do not belong to SA rugby. The one winger who does played for the Lions and Scotland."

Wrong African country arsehole...we've got the best living conditions on the continent for poor people...people are struggling,  but definitely not starving to death...

DB
DbDraadCaptain26,388 posts
10 Aug 2021, 13:22
#38
10 Aug 2021, 13:22#38

"People who love the rugby game have never bowed down to SA rugby. No matter the victories, they have stood tall."

Name them arsehole. 

KI
kingcornPro3,695 posts
10 Aug 2021, 13:27
#39
10 Aug 2021, 13:27#39

The Rassie rugby is a machine, that can easily swap players in and out. It is not  about putting the best players on the park and create an environment for them to express themselves but rather drummed into them with not much creativity. 

Everyone fails when they try to play All Black rugby, I say that with respect as they are the most attractive team to watch. Very frustrating when you go 7 or even 14 up and then they wipe the floor with you within 5 min and you find yourself 7 point behind if not 21. 

Look at what they did to Australia over the weekend. Ran the ball from within their own 22, found the space wide, good passes to the inside, you have a lock like Brodie tracking for 60 m, to act as the pivot, gain some meters and then off load. 

The boks only have 2 or 3 players that can do that, maybe 5 at a push. but the whole All Black team possess that skill. 

So what do you do when you face the best, tackle them backwards, wait for their mistakes and take the 3 points or if you can, play off errors and use the 3 players that can do that. Willie, Kolbe and Am. Then you have Mpimpi who is brilliant finisher . 

But not once did I see any line breaks from the boks. Those are as scarce as crocodile tears when it comes to the boks. 

sharkbok
sharkbokCaptain23,233 posts
10 Aug 2021, 13:32
#40
10 Aug 2021, 13:32#40
Traditionalist is clearly an ardent supporter of Black Lifes Matter. (Blame White people)

Kids are starving in Africa because of poor parenting by black people- particularly black men. 
Most black kids have never met their father, and either grew up with just a mother or within an orphanage or on the streets. 

African-American family structure - Wikipedia

https://en.wikipedia.org › wiki › African-American_famil...
Poor families have so many children they can't afford to feed them. 
And this is supposed to be white people's fault. 

Sing us a song... 



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