FIXTURESNo upcoming fixtures — check back soon.
FORUM / RUGBY /  Trump not doing well in Iowa - Beeno in mourning

Trump not doing well in Iowa - Beeno in mourning

Started by clevermike64 REPLIES1,230 VIEWS· 02 Feb 2016, 05:33
SHAREXFACEBOOKWHATSAPPTELEGRAMREDDITLINKEDIN
CL
clevermikeCoach57,555 posts
03 Feb 2016, 11:25
#41
03 Feb 2016, 11:25#41
 Beeno
I have nothing against Trump - just realism.    Trump does not have staff on the g round like other candidates - but has a management team to manage his campaign.
There was a discussion on TV (Al Jazeera) where the problem was highlighted by experts - even those who were in the employ of Bush.  The opinion poll figures was as indicated by me two days before the caucuses - so there is nothing weird about my statement - that he failed to get his supporters to he caucuses.
Trump is not electable as President - he has too many negatives and to alienate the Latino voters and Negroes is one hurdle too many.  The Democratic Party can put up their donkey and the donkey will win the election with Trump as the RP candidate.    The candidates in the Congress election will not be able to support him - since that would lose them their own elections and they would be in a fix with Trump the presidential candidate.
Trump may shout and scream slogans - but hat will not get him to be president.  You may support him - but get back to reality for a change.            
CL
CleanCutPro9,905 posts
03 Feb 2016, 12:24
#42
03 Feb 2016, 12:24#42
 
I can understand a nation's fear of allowing millions of religious nut jobs access to you families and everything you hold dear but that in itself is not reason enough to run after this looney toon Trump.

There must be another way.

I get the feeling that this chump and his comb-over, comb-under and all-about-over-under has an itch he needs scratched and that very act could plunge the rest of us into a world war.

The middle east is volatile enough on it's own and doesn't need some power hungry wack job poking a stick at them. 

It is truly amazing how fear can cloud one's judgement.

Running after the promises of a madman in the hopes of home security could end up costing you everything.

Ask Germany.

He smacks of tyranny. I would stay far far away from this loon.  

 
DA
Devil's AdvocatePro7,008 posts
03 Feb 2016, 12:31
#43
03 Feb 2016, 12:31#43
"He smacks of tyranny. I would stay far far away from this loon"
That is a possibility, yes
CL
clevermikeCoach57,555 posts
03 Feb 2016, 12:37
#44
03 Feb 2016, 12:37#44
 CC
Every time Trump opens his mouth - he said we will fix it.  How that fixing is going to work he never describes and to promise to fix things by unkown means is not the answer the people actually need.   
The American President is not almighty - he has serious limitations on what he can do.  He can provide direction - but ultimately Congress can undermine him or refuse to  provide funding for his schemes.    

CL
CleanCutPro9,905 posts
03 Feb 2016, 12:48
#45
03 Feb 2016, 12:48#45
 
So what your saying, Mike, is that a determined power hungry warmonger will at no time find a way to take his fantasy of tyranny to the next level, right?

Not out of the USA anyway.

His hands are bound and he'll do as he's told, right ?

Hmmmmmmm??

The most powerful man on the planet a mere puppet.

Interesting!!!





 
BE
Beeno1Captain40,032 posts
03 Feb 2016, 13:06
#46
03 Feb 2016, 13:06#46
 CC you halfwit Trump has something to sound off about unlike so many!!There is substance to the man. You say TrUmP is going about it all wrong eh ou maaaikie - but he is leading the GOP by miles.He dominates the media, twitter  facebooK etc.He spends far less than the corporate politicians bought by big business. 
Your big mistake ou maaikie is reading far, far too much re Iowa a result you do not understand!You also haven't seen the articles showing Trump is gaining more negro support than previous GOP candidates! Ditto latinos.
BWAHAHAHAHAHAHA OU CC SAYS TRUMP SMACKS OF TYRANNY. WHAT A COMPLETE DOPEWAKE UP CC TRUMP IS FIGHTING THE ELITIST GLOBALISTS WHO CONTROL THE ECONOMY AND THE MAIN STREAM MEDIA. THESE ARE THE TYRANTS. THE LEAD THE WEAK MINDED LIKE CC TO THE SLAUGHTER AND THEY ARE NONE THE WISER. OH WHAT ABYSMAL IGNORANCE. 
THE PROBLEM HAS BEEN THESE ELITISTS HAVE PLACED THEIR MAN IN THE WHITE HOUSE BE HE DEMOCRAT OR REPUBLICAN. THIS IS WHAT HAS BECOME CLEAR AT LAST TO SO MANY AND IS DRIVING THE ANTI ESTABLISHMENT MOVEMENT.

BE
Beeno1Captain40,032 posts
03 Feb 2016, 13:10
#47
03 Feb 2016, 13:10#47
Some infromation for the floundering ou maaaikie

A SurveyUSA poll released in September showed that 25% of black respondents said they would vote for Trump over Clinton.

According to The American Mirror Trump would more than double the best result for a Republican in modern American history.

Looking at the last 10 presidential election cycles, the highest black vote share for a Republican was 12% for Bob Dole in 1996.

Now there’s even better news for Trump.
40% of black voters and 45% of Hispanic voters support Donald Trump.
If these numbers hold up Donald Trump would win the 2016 election in a landslide.

World Net Daily reported:

Pundits might point to billionaire Donald Trump’s huge lead in the GOP presidential primary race as being the result of his generally anti-Washington, anti-government, anti-establishment, anti-politically correct attitude.

If so, it’s not just whites who are ticked at the bureaucracy, but minorities too.

Because a new poll, which still has Trump leading the race, shows 40 percent of blacks are lining up behind Trump, as are 45 percent of Hispanics, and even nearly 19 percent of Asians.

Blacks and Hispanics, in fact, even support Trump at a higher level than whites.

The results are from a new WND/Clout poll by Clout Research, a national opinion research firm in Columbus, Ohio. The telephone survey of registered voters was taken Dec. 18-27, except for the holiday, and has a margin of error of plus or minus 3.35 percentage points.

After Obama, Americans are yearning for a leader who loves America, for a change.

You bet. Gooooooo President Trump!!

DA
Devil's AdvocatePro7,008 posts
03 Feb 2016, 13:25
#48
03 Feb 2016, 13:25#48
clevermike
 
Status: Hall Of Fame 
Posts: 21051RE: Trump not doing well in Iowa - Beeno in mourning
February 03, 2016, 12:37:55

 CC


Every time Trump opens his mouth - he said we will fix it.  How that fixing is going to work he never describes and to promise to fix things by unkown means is not the answer the people actually need.    

I would say that' s a bit like the horse in front of the cart Mike
DE
DennyCaptain12,893 posts
03 Feb 2016, 13:42
#49
03 Feb 2016, 13:42#49
" The middle east is volatile enough on it's own and doesn't need some power hungry wack job poking a stick at them."
Correct. Because some poor innocent will be blown to bits by a lone wolf attack from which there is no protection and that could be because the loony Trump has poked him hard enough. Commonsense really.
BE
Beeno1Captain40,032 posts
03 Feb 2016, 13:53
#50
03 Feb 2016, 13:53#50
 dense denise best zip it least your OVERWHELMING  ignorance overwhelms you.
WaS everything done right in IOWA?Read these comments.

Iowa is a strange place indeed..A helluva lot of funny business huh? Rubio's magical surge while using Marcosoft to tally the votes..absurd! Then there's creepy Cruz lying to voters by telling Carson supporters Ben dropped out so they should switch to snake oil Ted. What a dirty trick by cowardly Cruz. 
Then we have 13 of the "polls" manipulated to show Trump way ahead..therefore suppressing his voter turnout.. And of course there's Hillary winning by a coin toss..Wow. Nothing in Iowa passes the smell test! America needs TRUMP ASAP before it's too late to reverse the damage...

  •  
  • Reply
  • Share › 
      Hagar The Horrible  Cat • 2 hours ago

      "Nothing in Iowa passes the smell test!"

      Actual election fraud… Still think you get to choose?

      1.Cruz campaign representatives engage in disinformation campaign. Carson supporters across Iowa were informed by Cruz reps that Carson had suspended his campaign and endorsed Cruz.
      2.Cruz campaign commits fraud by sending campaign mailers listing citizens’ voting records as well as their neighbors’. The mailers falsely claimed that their poor attendance at previous caucuses constitute a “Voting Violation”.

    • VERY DISAPPOINTING STUFF FROM CRUZ - WAS HE INVOLVED?
      3.Microsoft, Marco Rubio’s biggest donors, counted votes. Rubio finished the caucus in better position than he has ever held throughout his campaign. Microsoft announced that their system wasn’t counting votes properly in many districts.
      4.Hillary won six precincts in a row by coin toss because organizers refused to call for recounts.
      5.Iowa Democratic Party says votes from 90 precincts are unaccounted for.

    BE
    Beeno1Captain40,032 posts
    03 Feb 2016, 14:01
    #51
    03 Feb 2016, 14:01#51
     Despite the second-place finish in Iowa, O’Reilly insisted that Trump still remains to be a threat in the race for the 2016 GOP presidential nomination.

    The media of course despises Donald Trump (The media owned by the global elitists who brain wash the gullible) and will paint him as a loser if they can, but here on ‘The Factor’ we’re fair, and the truth is Trump remains very formidable,” he added.

    The main steam media are bla tant biased liars.

    CL
    clevermikeCoach57,555 posts
    03 Feb 2016, 14:19
    #52
    03 Feb 2016, 14:19#52
     Beeno
    You are reading far too much propaganda from extreme rightwing institutions and do not look at the broader picture - neither understanding the dynamics of American Politics.
    That is why you make such a lot of comments about a political nonenity in the hope that he will win elections.  He will be the doom of the Republicans in the Presidential elections - he will ultimately fall flat on his face - and I think most Republicans realize it and will not fall for that one.   
    As I said previously - Trump will lose the Presidential Elections even if the Democratic Party fields their donkey emblem against him.   He is basically non-electable.  The problem is that he will damage the Republicqan Party in the Senate and House of Representatives elections and that will give the donkey a free reign with the DP controlling both Houses.   That would cause massive damage to the USA.        

    JW
    Just_winCaptain18,570 posts
    03 Feb 2016, 14:47
    #53
    03 Feb 2016, 14:47#53
    At least Trump distracted the lunatic fringe on this site so we hear less about "Christianity", climate change, evolution, etc. Unfortunately we also are seeing less posts about rugby.
    Trump is just an ego maniac who wants adulation and to promote his "brand" & his "reality" tv show. What a nutter.
    CL
    clevermikeCoach57,555 posts
    03 Feb 2016, 16:10
    #54
    03 Feb 2016, 16:10#54
     Beeno
    Do you know the difference between a demagogue and a real leader?
    BE
    Beeno1Captain40,032 posts
    03 Feb 2016, 21:12
    #55
    03 Feb 2016, 21:12#55
     You mean a real leader like the onewho built a multi billion dollar empire. Bwahahhahahahaha ou maaaaikie you are a joke. You simply have no idea about leadership or real achievement.

    Political hacks like the corrupt hillary or the disaster known as obama. I suppose you would call these halwits leaders. Hahhahahahahahaha hilarious stuff from ou maaaike. Trump completely outclasses these hapless twits.
    Mean while Palin blast Cruz camp. They really stooped very low and I think its the end of Cruz.

    Former Alaska governor Sarah Palin posted the following to her Facebook page:

    Dirty Politics: Witnessing Firsthand It’s Always Heartbreaking, Never Surprising

    Thank heavens Donald Trump opened so many eyes to the lies, corruption and total lack of accountability that come so naturally to the permanent political class. And

    Sen. Ted Cruz (R-TX)97% was spot on when he once noted that “millions of Americans are asking for accountability and truth.” Which is why it’s so curious – and saddens us – this lack of accountability with the lies of Cruz’s own campaign.

    Cruz’s campaign chairman, U.S. Representative 

    Rep. Steve King (R-IA)79%, is lying, and good for Dr. Ben Carson for calling this out. King, who’s previously asked for and received my endorsement, time and resources to support his own election, is still lying about my altruistic support of Mr. Trump, and he’s refused to provide any evidence to the contrary. And, this U.S. Congressman actually lied to his own constituents on behalf of Cruz, regarding a good man, Dr. Carson. He told voters Carson was dropping out of the Presidential race immediately before the Iowa caucus, causing a relative uproar inside the process, so the word would spread and he could rack up more votes for his candidate, Cruz. That’s a dirty trick. Dr. Carson deserved better. The voters deserved better!

    Where is the accountability for these political actions? Very sad; typical Washington tactics. THIS is why “the status quo has got to go.”

    Our friend Dr. Carson put it so well:

    As Christians, of course we accept people’s apologies, we also have to ask ourselves is this acceptable to us, the American people, or should there be some accountability? There should be some consequences for things. You don’t just say ‘oh, okay, sorry… okay let’s move on.’ The damage was done to me, it wasn’t done to them.” ( I am very disappointed re Cruz and wonder if he was in on this - its a total disgrace on a par with nz cheating at rugby!!!)

    We’ve had eight years of a reckless President, accountable to no one, pushing this country to the brink (20 trillion debt now and the middle east in a mess as is obama care). Why would we ever take a risk repeating that? We are never going to turn this country around if we keep electing “more of the same.” Just like conservatives have been preaching in opposition to Obama’s political tactics for years: actions speak louder than words.

    The Cruz Campaign’s actions to destroy a good man’s efforts to serve are no different than Obama’s practice of not holding anyone accountable. Typical politics. Typical politicians.

    Well said Sarah Palin
    Goooooo President Trump. The global multicutural elitists are very worried! Trump is  unmasking them. 


    BE
    Beeno1Captain40,032 posts
    03 Feb 2016, 21:15
    #56
    03 Feb 2016, 21:15#56
     ou maaaaike you appear to have no idea of what it means to head up an organisation like Trump has built!!! You statement regarding leadership boggles the mind as to its rank stupidity. Please think before you post.
    Thanks
    CL
    clevermikeCoach57,555 posts
    03 Feb 2016, 21:20
    #57
    03 Feb 2016, 21:20#57
     Palin is sellling herself to the highest bidder - she used to be with Cruz and the Tea Party component in Congress - now she is a Trump hanger-on.  
    And Trump will never be President - forget about that pipe dream.       
    DB
    DbDraadCaptain26,388 posts
    03 Feb 2016, 21:37
    #58
    03 Feb 2016, 21:37#58
     Mike, never say never, worse things have happened and will again.
    BE
    Beeno1Captain40,032 posts
    03 Feb 2016, 21:39
    #59
    03 Feb 2016, 21:39#59
     No evidence of any payment to her as my post showed. You love to specualte without providing any basis for your speculations.
    There are a number of commentators now taking Trump very seriously.  The democrat candidates are weak. trrump dispite all the elitist controlled media is doing very well. May that continue. 
    Oh maaaikie you are a gullible fish if there ever was one. 
    Watch Trump dismantle Cruz over his various election frauds. Theoak has done himself no favours in Iowa. Trump supprting carsons is correct and a good move politically.Ou maaaike I do hope you were enlightened by the various posts I made you are so way off the mark its rediculous. Eg black support for Trump and ditto hispanics.
    http://www.breitbart.com/big-government/2016/02/03/2931168/
    CL
    clevermikeCoach57,555 posts
    04 Feb 2016, 07:54
    #60
    04 Feb 2016, 07:54#60
     I say Trump is not electable as a President and that remains a fact.   We will see what happens in the upcoming primaries.   
    Just one question Beeno - in the latest opinion poll in New Hampshire - what is Trump's figures?      
    BE
    Beeno1Captain40,032 posts
    04 Feb 2016, 08:52
    #61
    04 Feb 2016, 08:52#61
     Mike this info was at 31st January

    Bernie Sanders and Donald Trump maintain wide leads in their respective primary races in New Hampshire, according to a new CNN/WMUR poll conducted by the University of New Hampshire Survey Center.

    On the Republican side, Trump continues to hold more than double the support of his nearest competitor, while the race for second and third place remains muddled: Just 6 points separate the second place candidate from the one in fifth place.

    Overall, 30% of likely Republican primary voters back Trump, and behind him, the field vying for second includes Texas Sen. Ted Cruz at 12%, Florida Sen. Marco Rubio at 11%, Ohio Gov. John Kasich at 9%, New Jersey Gov. Chris Christie at 8% and former Florida Gov. Jeb Bush with 6%.


    RO
    RooinekCaptain18,117 posts
    04 Feb 2016, 09:27
    #62
    04 Feb 2016, 09:27#62
    Wehe . . . take a look at what this pathetic sore loser is saying here!

    Von Clownstick is sounding like Baboon-ou after a Springbok loss . . . "blubber sob . . . it's all so unfair . . . whine snivel . . . the other team cheated . . . sniff . . . boohoohoo "

    LMAO!
    CL
    clevermikeCoach57,555 posts
    04 Feb 2016, 09:45
    #63
    04 Feb 2016, 09:45#63
     OK
    There is a difference - it is not only Republicans who vote in the primary elections.  Nobody stop democrats to vote for Republican candidates and vice versa.  There is also the independents who can vote for either as well.  However, the 30% is not a convincing lead - since Trump had a higher percentage in Iowa than he has in New Hampshire three days before the caucuses - and he managed 24% of the vote.  
    I think he will probably manage another 24% or 25% of the vote and the minor candidates like Christie, Bush and Kasich will get less votes - since voters will regard them as not feasible candidates.  They are likely to opt out of the contest after the primary and their supporters will not go to Trump, rather to Rubio or even Cruz.  
    We will see what happens in New Hampshire on Tuesday - and see whether my predictions are correct.      
    BE
    Beeno1Captain40,032 posts
    04 Feb 2016, 14:11
    #64
    04 Feb 2016, 14:11#64
    Rooitwit I really did expect you to uphold decent practice and of course you didn't disappoint. Ou rooitwit is always so consistent - consitesntly wrong! Hahahahahahahahahaha
    DB
    DbDraadCaptain26,388 posts
    05 Feb 2016, 17:57
    #65
    05 Feb 2016, 17:57#65
     .
    — END OF THREAD —

    More from Rugby

    More news