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VERY BAD NEWS RE THE REF

Started by Beeno19 REPLIES209 VIEWS· 23 Oct 2015, 21:51
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Beeno1Captain40,032 posts
23 Oct 2015, 21:51
#1
23 Oct 2015, 21:51#1
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The referee is Jérôme Garcès of France. He debut as an international referee was in 2010 in a match between England and the Barbarians. He served as assistant referee in four Tests during the 2011 RWC. During this tournament he was referee in three Test matches, including the South Africa/Japan Test during the first week. It will be his seventh Test involving South Africa. Of the previous six Tests, South Africa won three and lost three.

How in the world did we get this DUD?
Have we got a bent ref on our hands?
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Beeno1Captain40,032 posts
23 Oct 2015, 21:55
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23 Oct 2015, 21:55#2
 NOTE THIS!!!

Much has been made of All Black captain Richie McCaw’s match-winning try against the Springboks in their Castle Lager Rugby Championship match on Saturday, but the real question was whether or not it was a legal move.

McCaw scored in the 74th minute to give the All Blacks a lead they didn’t let go of, by flummoxing the Springbok defence at the lineout on the Bok line and scoring almost untouched.

But replays of the try show that it should have been referred and possibly even disallowed as McCaw was offside on two counts.

Not the commentators, not the assistant referees nor referee Jerome Garces picked it up live and never referred it to the television match official with the try eventually leading to New Zealand’s win in the epic game.

Watch the try again though and keep in mind what the laws say, and it becomes clear that it should never have been given and referee Garces made a mistake.

WHAT ABOUT ALL THE OTHER MISTAKES HE MADE THAT FAVOURED THE WEE ABS AND THAT WERE NOTED AT THE TIME.


This is very bad news indeed.


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Beeno1Captain40,032 posts
23 Oct 2015, 21:58
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23 Oct 2015, 21:58#3
 What worries me also is Craig Joubert shafted the French big time and handed to RWC to the wee abs on a platter. 
I always said we should NEVER be sucked into nz conniving!


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Beeno1Captain40,032 posts
23 Oct 2015, 22:09
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23 Oct 2015, 22:09#4
 Here is the rest of the post

Firstly when the lineout is formed, McCaw stands in the halfback – or receiver – position and therefore is not part of the lineout.

According to World Rugby law 19.8.i - (i) Where the receiver must stand. If a team uses a receiver, then that player, must be positioned at least 2m back from teammates in the lineout, and between the 5m and 15m lines, until the lineout begins. Once the lineout has commenced, the receiver may move into the lineout and may perform all actions available to players in the lineout and is liable to related sanctions.

McCaw is within the two metre rule and while referees don’t always police this fairly, as the receiver/halfback teams do not position their lineout defence for a halfback entering the lineout as it is illegal.

Then there are two more aspects which make the try illegal – the first that McCaw moves before the ball is thrown in, which places him in an offside position.

Read with law 19.9 (a) – which says: “The lineout begins when the ball leaves the hands of the player throwing it in”, it is clear that McCaw has moved before the ball has left the hooker’s hands, and since he is not 2 metres back, has all the advantage from an illegal position.

But to take it further, law 19.10 (f) says: “A player must not jump or be lifted or supported before the ball has left the hands of the player throwing in.”

If you watch the video, you can see how Kieran Read is lifted before the ball leaves the hooker’s hands, taking the Springbok attention away from McCaw.

Of course, the All Black captain went through a gap and was missed by the player the Boks had as their receiver – Adriaan Strauss – and the try was given, giving New Zealand the lead in a crucial stage of the game with six minutes to go.

But while it was planned and is a blatant offside, the referee allowed the try to stand, and didn’t query it even though captain Schalk Burger asked for it to be queried.

Of course the Boks will kick themselves for the chances they never took, including Vincent Koch knocking on with an open goalline, Lood de Jager’s “try” that wasn’t given by the TMO and a wild pass by Willie le Roux with an open Cornal Hendricks on his outside, proving again that to beat the best team in the world you need to take the chances when they come your way.

The Boks will be upset that they lost a game they came close to winning on Saturday, but they cannot be blamed for McCaw’s try, which shouldn’t have been allowed in the first place.

Then we had all those wee ab red zone infringements. Then we had so many players out.

Hence given reasonable circumstances a 15 point win is logical given my qualifications.

Right now I am very worried we have a bent ref in charge!!

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Beeno1Captain40,032 posts
24 Oct 2015, 07:49
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24 Oct 2015, 07:49#5
 Could you pick a worse combination of folk to officaite this game than this:'
Referee: Jérôme Garcès (France)
Assistant Referees: Romain Poite (France), Johnny Lacey (Ireland)
TMO: George Ayoub (Australia)

I simply cant believe it!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

JW
Just_winCaptain18,570 posts
24 Oct 2015, 07:53
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24 Oct 2015, 07:53#6
 Yes, bad for both sides Beeno. How can our saintly Richie hope to get a fair shake with these rascals as the officials?
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Beeno1Captain40,032 posts
24 Oct 2015, 08:04
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24 Oct 2015, 08:04#7
 mccheat and nz rugby must have selected this panel of rascals. Imagine having a down under oak as TMO!!! Poite !!!! 
The get the Jarpy campaign looks to be ready to pounce.

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RooinekCaptain18,117 posts
24 Oct 2015, 08:10
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24 Oct 2015, 08:10#8
Oh for goodness sake, the game is still 9 hours away and Baboon-ou is already bleating and blubbering about the bent ref. I mean really . . . if this is how he's carrying on now, what is this snivelling little crybaby going to be doing when the ref actually blows a penalty against us?
What an embarrassment Baboon-ou is to real South African rugby supporters!
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Beeno1Captain40,032 posts
24 Oct 2015, 08:23
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24 Oct 2015, 08:23#9
 Real Bok supporters.Bwahahahahhahahaha.Listen rooitwit you can come out your wee ab closet oak or your welsh closet.
Werent you the clown trying to excuse bryce lawrence as well.Man I recall a sharks player being dumped on his head and the down under ref giving a penalty. This jelly baby couldnt even defend his sharks side regarding this shocking decision. I had to do it!
Ou rooitwit needs to go on a calcium rich diet and grow a backbone. 
Until then rooitwit leave the real Bok fans to fight for a fair deal for the Bokke!
In the meantime run along and pick up all those toys you through out your kott when Dr Moz showed up your lack on poetic prowress! whehehehehehehe No please dont stamp your toetsies on the way out. 
Beeno setting ou rooitwit stra ight once again!

JW
Just_winCaptain18,570 posts
24 Oct 2015, 08:27
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24 Oct 2015, 08:27#10
 Dear ref;
We All Black fans were very pleased to see that you have been recognized for your outstanding professionalism & good judgement. Having you as our ref for the semi-final is beneficial to both you & world rugby, I am sure our much esteemed adversaries would agree. 
AB fans know you will uphold your high standards & allow Saint Richie to set the standard for excellence. The world needs a trail blazer who pushes the boundaries in an effort to raise the game we all love to new heights. We do ask you to be liberal in your corrective actions for wee blokes like Bismark. He is an outstanding individual & his over aggressiveness is to be admired but also corrected. A couple of yellow cards should do the trick, we should't be punitive the theme should be schooling the wee chap.
Looking forward to a good game & a result that Bycy, Craig & you can be proud of.
Your mate JW
Mole hunter extrodinarePresident of JW fowl play Detection AgencyABs: RWC Champions & owners of all rugby silverware
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