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We need that Aussie guy who coached our defence in 2007

Started by Mozart11 REPLIES387 VIEWS· 20 Jul 2015, 04:52
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MozartCaptain49,914 posts
20 Jul 2015, 04:52
#1
20 Jul 2015, 04:52#1

The guys tried hard yesterday, but we are a long way from the iron defence of 2007. The Boks cut off the outside effectively in that era. Yesterday there was no push forward from the centres....just a string of forwards and backs with no defensive leadership. Nobody balanced resources open and blindside. Nobody effectively brought up the defensive line.


Yesterday wasn't a failure of attack, of goal kicking....it   was a failure to keep the ball and a catastrophic failure of defensive nous in the last 14 minutes.

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DezertFoxPro2,288 posts
20 Jul 2015, 05:15
#2
20 Jul 2015, 05:15#2
 Back then we had Butch-Frans-Fourie. Our current axis is immeasurably inferior to that. Fourie in particular was very intelligent, he didn't react to what was happening in front of him, he proactively read play and made excellent decisions in cutting off the opposition's wider attack. Look at that victory over New Zealand in 2011 for an excellent demonstration of that. 
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DezertFoxPro2,288 posts
20 Jul 2015, 05:20
#3
20 Jul 2015, 05:20#3
 Perhaps Frans at 10 and Pollard at 12?
SA
Saffolk Captain30,741 posts
20 Jul 2015, 09:17
#4
20 Jul 2015, 09:17#4
 No we need to get rid of Meyer....he is out of his depth.
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clevermikeCoach57,555 posts
20 Jul 2015, 10:31
#5
20 Jul 2015, 10:31#5
 The slow and useless Frans at 10 and Poilard at 12.   That shows total madness by Desert Disaster.  Frans flopped badly at center (2013, 2014 and 2015)  and at flyhalf (2014) - worse so in the latter case.   The guy has no idea about attacking play, is the most aimless and inaccurate kicker in international rugby and is a worse defender than De Allende - a hell of a lot worse as a matter of fact.  Pollard's defense on Saturday was also a problem - so what the Disaster suggested here ia as mad as he normally is.   
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Saffolk Captain30,741 posts
20 Jul 2015, 10:45
#6
20 Jul 2015, 10:45#6
 Frans does not have the software for 10 and his hand to foot is too slow. He is crap at 10....good at 12.
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clevermikeCoach57,555 posts
20 Jul 2015, 10:51
#7
20 Jul 2015, 10:51#7
 Mozart
There are two issues here as to coaching where you are correct and one where you are wrong.  The two correct ones are -
*   we need a proper attack coach - Van Graan is as useless as Matfield in the case of the Bulls in that; and
*   we need a proper backline coach - Meyer is as clueless as White was in that aspect of the game - hence White bringing in Eddie jones in 2007 and losing the plot last year for the Sharks (turning the backline into a dummy situation with Fransie the destroyer) - the present backline coach is useless.
Where you are wrong is we also need a new head coach.  Meyer is clueless and wasted nearly four years with fiddling around with geriatrics and players he knew and not try and build up a squad for the WC.  He is now in panic mode and two  months before the tournament try and build up a squad.  Instead of trying to build up a creditable squad his geriatrics were all failures except for Habana and Jean de Villiers.  The rest of his selection of geriatrics were totally up to sh!t.        
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Beeno1Captain40,032 posts
20 Jul 2015, 19:05
#8
20 Jul 2015, 19:05#8
 Loubcher i beleive is the backline coach and out of his depth.
Our defence is fine but if you toss away possession and allow the opposing team to keep running at you, you are opening yours elf up to them scoring.
Nieman is probably the best defensive coach in the wolrd but was not a bulle so was ignored. Loubcher was bulle Vodacom cup coach so his selection was quota induced.

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DezertFoxPro2,288 posts
20 Jul 2015, 19:43
#9
20 Jul 2015, 19:43#9
Actually, the b ackline structure isn't bad at all. Not his fault that Damian is inadequate.
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MozartCaptain49,914 posts
20 Jul 2015, 19:51
#10
20 Jul 2015, 19:51#10
Tokkie weren't you the guy who said we were going to lose by at least 12 point to Oz . Isn't it time to admit you really dont have a clue. 
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DbDraadCaptain26,388 posts
20 Jul 2015, 19:51
#11
20 Jul 2015, 19:51#11
 Actually,  when you turn over good possession  with aimless kicking and try and defend yourself to victory,  you are bound to miss a couple of crucial tackles.  The boks had to make just too many tackles. We gave Aus too many chances to run at us. Simple really. Persentage wise,  Aus defended way worse than we did.   
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clevermikeCoach57,555 posts
20 Jul 2015, 20:03
#12
20 Jul 2015, 20:03#12
Mozart 
If Matfield remained on the field of play that loss would have been by 10 more points. He was piss-poor in the first 17 minutes and in the game where accurate, strong tackles was required Matfield is incapable of that - so more tries by the Aussies would have been on the cards.
I did not bargain on the Springboks having a Tight 5.  The replacement of Matfield by  De Jager played havoc with my calculation,  since instead of a Tight 4 we then had a Tight 5 on the field of play. 
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